pizzagate

[Escher's Waterfall]

If a politician is accused of raping a 13 year old, should we believe he's a pedophile? What if multiple women have accused the same politician of sexual assault?

I didn't see an answer to this.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'm not sure I even know what the whole pizzagate theory is anymore. The political agenda of this whole story doesn't really interest me. I'm suspicious of Podesta too but oh well, that's more of a stretch from what I've seen. Alefantis is likely a pedophile and should be investigated. Whatever comes out of that investigation is fair game. That hasn't happened as far as I know and to me it's an outrage. That's my angle. I'm curious if people who have looked closely at the evidence disagree with that simple statement. Forget all the rest for a moment.

Last I checked Alasdair was happy to post an article accusing Trump of child rape. I read it with interest but didn't seem like there was enough evidence so I sort of dismissed it. I really don't care for Trump. But Alefantis... come on.

I read your articles Scrofula. You don't seem to have much to say about them except using them to justify your polemical stance with little substance I'm sorry to say. Most of the articles go something like this "poor alefantis, this story has attracted so many crazy people to his door step. Made his life hell. They think Hilary rapes and kills children. Fake news is dangerous and must be stopped. etc, etc"

They do little to address why Alefantis and his friends make repeated innuendos to child rape and murder. That would make the story confusing. Remember, we live in a country where buying a grow lamp for your tomatoes will have the state police kicking down your door for fear you're growing marijuana. Make a terrorism joke and go to jail. Repeatedly telling jokes about child sacrifice, drugging, raping, and trafficking kids, no, that's cool. You guys are just getting worked up over nothing. Freedom of speech. etc, etc.

Look up #carisjames Her dad makes child coffins. Alefantis practically drools on her every chance he gets. Posts pictures of her in "Pizza Slut" attire or taped down to a table in provocative positions. Where is she now?

 

[alasdairm]

Last I checked Alasdair was happy to post an article accusing Trump of child rape.

are you another, like liquid, who knows my state of mind better than i do? you guys are amazing. surely you could apply this incredible skill to something more valuable than telling people online what they're thinking and how they're feeling?

alasdair

 

[Jabberwocky]

are you another, like liquid, who knows my state of mind better than i do? you guys are amazing. surely you could apply this incredible skill to something more valuable than telling people online what they're thinking and how they're feeling?

You're correct, I don't know if you were happy to post it. But you did post it.

 

[Scrofula]

Last I checked Alisdair was continuing to let this thread exist, stifling your "free speech" by allowing you to libel anyone you feel like.

This alefantis guy is the proprietor of the pizza establishment who's so obviously shady because he has a triangle in his store's marquee, and knew a guy who's gay? FFS why haven't you two found the real boston bomber yet? My money's on Joey Meatball's Spaghetti Factory, who says his meatballs are "The Bomb" in local ads. I mean, who else could it be, the Tsarnaev brothers? Right, pressure cookers can't blow off legs.

ETA: ok, that was weak but I just ate dinner, let my blood glucose adjust.
In the meantime, the triangle thing, maybe you're right and it IS weird to have in a pizza restaurant. I mean, pizza ALWAYS comes in regular pentagon shapes, except in Chicago, which prefers the unusual but thicker isosceles heptagon.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Chicago prefers the unusual but thicker isosceles heptagon.

That's cause they're all pedophiles.

But seriously, the pizzagate thread is a nice place to build up your comedy routine, you'll go far kid.

 

[Scrofula]

With this material I'll be lucky to make it on stage.

Seriously kids, pick a real conspiracy theory at least.

Fans of "big foot hunter" are crying in embarrassment.

Or whatever it's called. It's telling there's no SiFi Channel Original version, like "Pizzagate hunters™: where we check random pizzeria "basements" for cages full of crying Haitian orphans".

 

[cduggles]

^^They prefer Yeti.
I'm ashamed. I won't tell them you forgot and said "Bigfoot".

 

[Jabberwocky]

Shame on me for wanting an investigation into #carisjames . Enough said on this topic by me. You guys can have this thread.

NSFW:

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[Scrofula]

I think the show is Squatch Hunters.

And all the abducted little girls with all the poor-taste play-on-words T-shirts in the world has fuck all to do with your theory that Comet Ping Pong has a basement.

There is more connection to saying Aliens built the pyramids with pizza technology, because at least each side of a pyramid is pizza-slice-shaped, and Italy is nearby.

I mean, get it, there's a little kid, with a version of the Pizza-Hut logo, but it says "Pizza Slut" therefore John Podesta and Hillary Clinton order NGO's to kidnap non-orphan Haitian children under the guise of disaster aid to transport to the non-existent basement of a Washington pizzeria in order to sell them to high-profile politicians across the world. OF FUCKING COURSE. Get this man a goddamned Matlock Award.

(I'm experiencing certain WDs right now, but please keep going, it's giving me distraction)

 

[Jabberwocky]

Good luck with the WD's. Maybe this'll cheer you up...

And all the abducted little girls with all the poor-taste play-on-words T-shirts in the world has fuck all to do with your theory that Comet Ping Pong has a basement.

but they do have a basement and they are located on top of a network of tunnels.

Tunnel article (previously posted): http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/02/pizzagate-new-tunnel-discovery-connects-at-least-4-of-alefantiss-properties/

Anyways, I'm beginning to suspect that even if I posted a picture of Alefantis with his pants down fucking a bunch of kids you'd be like "someone call the x-files, the chupacabra is sucking my goats again." Have a good evening.

 

[Scrofula]

No, if you had a picture of that instead of a random picture of a guy in a garage with some blurry text on the wall, then we would know . . . that alefantis fucks kids. The rest would still be no good. Seriously, what is it with you kids and what the word "evidence" means? The owner of Comet Ping Pong could be arrested tomorrow for fucking children and IT STILL would not connect Podesta and Clinton and Haiti and the DNC much less that TV show guy over in the UK or lend any credence whatsoever to that fact that there was any trafficking ring out of the non-existent basement.

I could tell you gravity is based on orange juice, cause oranges are round like the earth and the sun is even orange, that is better evidence than what you've got.

 

[Jabberwocky]

you whipper snappers are never pleased. You wanted a basement, I gave you a basement. I can't post child porn on Bluelight cause it's against the Bluelight rules, but Alefantis got that too on his instagram account disguised as modern art, but literal photos of pre-pubescent penetration. Can't unsee that unfortunately. If you read my previous post I could care less about Clinton or Podesta. This is a purely apolitical discussion as far as I'm concerned. I don't have a strong opinion on them. Anyways, maybe you actually read up the evidence instead of passively criticizing everything and you might have something worthwhile to say rather than bringing gravity and orange juice into this. We're talking probable cause here, not incrimination. I was happy however that you conceded the t-shirt was poor taste. Shows your momma raised you with some values.

 

[LiquidMethod]

^It has mostly all been posted in this thread. It was simply ignored.

ETA: So I tried to appeal to you common sense, the fact that no group of criminals would ever advertise that fact with a code that the public can easily decipher, like putting a logo for "boy loving" into their very store's marquee. No one would EVER do that. Case fucking closed.

Well personally I am done saying that anything is too preposterous to be true. Donald Trump is the fucking president.
The other pizza place the dude owns that is next to Comet (Besta Pizza) changed its logo just as this story began to gain a bit of attention online. Why would you change the logo? If this was all nonsense you'd leave it how it is and ignore any ridiculous craziness that you encounter. Altering it was suspicious. It is not beyond belief that some groups would communicate this way. You also need to understand the psychopathic mind, it is impulsive, reckless and brazen. Half the thrill is not getting caught while cleverly rubbing it in people's faces, who are basically powerless to stop it even if they do recognize what's going on (hidden in plain sight).

The only reason that this was even exposed to the mainstream is because someone leaked Podesta's emails and some very intelligent and very inquisitive minds read them all and did some digging. They then found (and continue to find) all these connections. Well actually Andrew Breitbart did blow the whistle on this 6 years ago right before he died. Not a coincidence and another major reason that many people are taking this seriously.

If you place limits on what you believe is possible then you will not allow yourself to view reality as it is. Too many of us only see what we want to see.
Or what we're told to see.
Another interesting incident:

In late 2015 Republican Governor of NM Susana Martinez was having a wild party in a hotel room in Santa Fe. After being warned numerous times by the staff for noise and someone having thrown a bottle from the balcony a couple of police were called. Martinez went downstairs and spoke on the phone to the officers' supervisor in the lobby drunkenly attempting to ward them off. She was demanding the names of whoever made the complaint and she kept saying that were upstairs "eating PIZZA and drinking cokes". It took a while but eventually they left and it appeared as if she was using this as a code to get the police to leave. She kept repeating "we're all in a room eating PIZZA".

After this incident some Democratic lawmakers thought it would be funny to taunt old Governor Martinez by all wearing socks that had prints of pizza and cokes on them, referencing the 911 calls and her rowdy night at the El Dorado Hotel. Well look what we have on the socks.. the goddamn FBI boy-lover symbol. Now that could just be another wild coincidence but I personally don't think it is. This happened a while ago when nobody would ever have noticed these things unless they knew what to look for. We are all being played in the worst way imaginable.

 

[LiquidMethod]

Couple things worth noting:
The Washington Post has relatives of John Podesta on its staff, and Podesta himself is now working for WashPo. This is a very obvious conflict of interest as this scandal revolves directly around him.
Also the current CEO of the New York Times was previously running the BBC when the pedophilia investigation into Jimmy Savile was dropped.
But I am not like some people here who will only discredit a source and not the argument put forth, which is a coward's way out.

Snopes (also a POS site with a heavy bias that deceptively twists facts)
They say

None of it was true. While [Comet Ping Pong pizzeria owner James] Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims.

Investigators are claiming that the police are aiding in the cover-up so this is proof of nothing.

and the post primarily focused on Alefantis and his loose ties to the Clinton campaign via a former romantic relationship with David Brock of Media Matters for America.

Loose ties? He has an instragram picture of a signed letter from Hillary thanking him for holding fundraisers in his weird restaurant and logs show he has met with Obama personally in the White House numerous times.

Although the Pizzagate controversy remains a high-interest conspiracy, we are unable to locate any substantive aspect of the claims that could be fact-checked or otherwise held up to the light to determine their veracity.

Cool story bro, that disproves or debunks nothing.

New York Times

He found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms.

See how they misrepresent the claims instantly? That is not what the sane and honest investigative researchers have been claiming.

None of it was true. While Mr. Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims.

Same deal, that's not debunking. There has been no proper investigation.

Glen Caplin, a former campaign official for Mrs. Clinton, did not comment directly about Comet Ping Pong but said, “WikiLeaks has spawned several conspiracy theories that have been independently debunked.” Mr. Podesta did not respond to requests for comment.

C'mon Podesta, at least explain what a "handkerchief with a pizza-related map" on it means? So we can put this silliness to rest.

Last week, one supporter of the Pizzagate theory shot a live video from within the restaurant during a busy dinner shift. Local police, who had parked across the street after Mr. Alefantis filed a report about the fake news stories and threats, told the man to leave.

Why? Is it illegal to live-stream from a restaurant? I saw the video and the was doing nothing but having dinner. If there is nothing going on there then why not let the dude film and show it's just a normal restaurant?

Musicians who have performed at Comet Ping Pong have been pulled in, too. Amanda Kleinman, whose band, Heavy Breathing, has performed there several times, deleted her Twitter account after the abusive comments became overwhelming. Similar comments have flooded her YouTube music clips.

Well she was videoed creepily laughing about sex with little boys stating "we all have our preferences". Go watch her YouTube clips they're creepy as fuck and contain pedophilic imagery. I went through this already. These articles are actually just stating a lot of the evidence that exists but framing it with "this is all fine".

WASHPO

When Alefantis opened Comet a decade ago, he’d had a run-in with an advisory neighborhood commissioner, a local official who did not like it when Comet put ping-pong tables on the sidewalk. That commissioner had warned that having game tables on the sidewalk might bring “rapes and murders” to the virtually crime-free neighborhood.

The man who spoke up at that meeting and threatened the community to leave Alefantis and his business alone is on the Board of Directors of the orphanage in Haiti that was stashing kids ready for old mate Laura Silsby to march onto a bus and drive across the border. Another coincidence?


The false-flag shooter was really the icing on the cover-up cake. As soon as the guy walked into Comet with a gun it gave the zombies justification to say "see?? This fake news conspiracy is going to get someone hurt!" Well yes, people are getting hurt. Little children.

 

[Erikmen]

You're correct, I don't know if you were happy to post it. But you did post it.

Is that your argument? Lol

 

[LiquidMethod]

I didn't see an answer to this.

Investigate it. Just like we are calling for an investigation into others.

are you another, like liquid, who knows my state of mind better than i do? you guys are amazing. surely you could apply this incredible skill to something more valuable than telling people online what they're thinking and how they're feeling?

Way to ignore literally every important point brought up.

The basement in those pictures has been linked to a placed called the Pegasus Museum, also owned by Alefantis. Interestingly it's not a museum that's open to the public.

 

[LiquidMethod]

You know that Joe Biden could be revealed as a genuinely creepy perv-grandpa, almost as bad as Trump, and it wouldn't make one bit of difference to how your whole theory is bogus, right?

Incorrect. The scandal now known as Pedogate implicates many members of the government in pedophilia. You might ask yourself why would so many politicians be pedophiles? Apart from the obvious (power over law enforcement and the judiciary to act free from persecution), but more importantly pedophile politicians can easily be blackmailed and therefore controlled. Half a century ago being exposed as homosexual was enough to ruin your career but things have changed. Pedophilia is the only thing now that invokes universal disgust among the populace and is deemed completely unacceptable.

As for Creepy Hands Biden, he gave his best pal Obama a cute friendship bracelet with a slice of pizza on it. Maybe it's nothing and they just really like pizza. In fact, Obama loves pizza so much that he spent $65,000 of taxpayer money flying in pizza and hot dogs for a private party at the White House. You'd think the elite of our society would be enjoying much fancier foods than just pizza all the time. Also the problem with this is that all food consumed the White House must be produced on-site for security reasons. So why would Obama spend so much money flying in pizza from Chicago? Also how many people are we feeding for them to spend $65,000 on pizza and hot dogs? And why was there talk of them "using the same channels" to transport this food.

Reminds me of another email lifted from Podesta where his buddy was thanking him for sending him a package, except it was cheeses instead of pasta that he was expecting. What's strange about this email is he says "I think you should give notice when changing strategies that have been long in place". So for a long time they've been sending each other pasta or cheeses, and why do they need "strategies" to transport harmless foods?

FYI "hot dogs" is pedo codeword for boys. And we know that gay prostitutes have been into the White House for parties before, thanks to the Franklin scandal. A strange email sent to Podesta referencing hot dogs.

The question is though - if one of your best friends was exposed as a pedophile, would you still be friends with them? Personally I would not, but we've seen that Podesta has stayed in touch with convicted pedophile Denis Hastert for years.

 

[Scrofula]

No, see, what you guys have is not just a lack of evidence, it's negative evidence. The suspension of reason needed to follow your theory actually counts as evidence against it.

 

[LiquidMethod]

There's enough circumstantial evidence to launch an investigation. If you disagree with that then you're on crack.