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Piracetam/Lecithin + Meth is making me very sleepy. What gives?

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...and is also giving me a headache.

I took 800 mg of Piracetam and one 1200 mg capsule of Lecithin to finish up an essay due tomorrow. Planning on pulling an all-nighter. I also took some Lecithin earlier this evening for no particular reason. It was making me really tired (weird that it does that at times, and at other times I feel focused -- though I usually take more Piracetam, about 1.6 grams). I've only just started taking the combo recently so I'll reserve judgment on efficacy, though that's not why I'm posting...

I really need to finish up by tomorrow afternoon (Prof said I could email it to her with no penalty) -- so I took a few hits of meth which obviously would help keep me up and focused. (No judgment please, as I study just fine on small amounts of meth and am not a regular user.)

I don't feel the meth at all, have a massive headache, and just want to go to bed. Also my vision feels slightly off -- not to the extent of blurriness, but I need to try much harder to focus on the screen.

I took a cursory glance at some articles and other info and wasn't able to glean any clear interactions -- some anecdotal stuff suggested the meth would be potentiated, whereas some of the journals suggested choline would attenuate meth effects.

If anyone could shed some light on this -- and suggest something I can do (I'm thinking just coffee at this point), it would be greatly appreciated. God I need to finish this goddamned paper and all I can think about is why my drugs aren't working.

Kids, don't procrastinate. :(
 
Your vision being off is interesting. It reminds me of how my DP/DR event started just recently. Have you been sleep deprived for a day or 2? What drugs have you taken in the last 48?
 
Just also wondering, is there anything strange visually about the room and the objects in it? Do they all look normal?
 
No, objects looked fine. They weren't blurred...but maybe slight "shaky" looking if that makes any sense. Very slight, like when you do a bit too much meth (except I didn't).

I had another meth study session a few days ago. Then I took a break and just did Piracetam/Lecithin like I usually do. Wasn't quite working for me last night, so I took three big hits of meth (it's not great quality, but not bad). And nothing. I didn't want to get completely high or anything; just awake and focused...usually I need about 5 hits to get really euphoric.

No worries, once the Piracetam/Lecithin wore off it was working just fine a few hours after I posted (still is, editing my paper now). Either that, or the combo caused an extremely delayed onset of effects -- but I find that doubtful.

I did end up wasting a lot of time online figuring out if something was wrong or contraindicated etc. so it was a bit counterproductive. I was just so surprised because I expected the meth to be potentiated.

Would be cool if any of you biochem geniuses could shed some light on what happened there. I take Modafinil occasionally; one time I felt wasn't doing enough because I was super-tired, so I supplemented with meth to no avail because the Modafinil supposedly takes up the dopamine receptors (that's my rudimentary layperson understanding anyway). I wonder if it was the same type of negation, though I'm not sure how either Piracetam or Choline work.

I do recall another time I took 2.4 grams of Piracetam one day, and decided to party that night (wasn't consciously trying to combine the two) -- and the meth didn't hit me at all even after 10 hits! Something's definitely up there. And I think all the chatter about potentiation is coming from a single Erowid report.

(Dude claims he got 170 on his LSAT after taking Piracetam, which is bullshit, because the LSAT still kicked my ass. But I digress. And also may just suck at the LSAT.)

Yeah yeah, "Brevity. Look into it." I know.

Have a great day everyone, and hope to see some interesting replies.
 
not sure about meth but piracetam always makes me very atypically sleepy
 
MyExcuse said:
Might be a defense/coping mechanism for over-stimulation?
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that is what I was thinking, the piracetam in combination might be overstimulating certain parts of the brain leading to a tired worn out feeling.. just a guess though
 
what ive learned from doing meth is that
1. its unpredictable
2. mixing uppers with uppers isnt good (mixing ANYTHING including otc's is not a good idea)
3. If you havent been eating, drinking, or sleeping regularly, when redosing on meth or even doing one in the morning will cause me to get somewhat lightheaded and feels like i have "vapor vision" like gas fumes are in front of your eyes and u cant concentrate
4. Taking something or redosing wont solve the problem usually

(for ex. i was up for 2 nights and on the 3rd my chest was hurting from smoking too much bud/cigs, so i took a mucus relief pill "400mg guaf. 20 mg dxm" and it made my heart rate jump from 95-130), it also made me so dizzy i had to sleep it off, i should have known better too cuz dxm or guafensin is a bronchial dialator

just try to sleep it off, playing chemistry with your body is never good..
 
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