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Phenobarbital extraction

winston red

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I'm interested in extracting phenobarbital from pills which also contain codeine (10 mg), caffeine (23 mg), aspirin (200 mg) and APAP (200 mg). I only have access to the most basic solvents like acetone, naphtha, alcohol etc. There's very little in phenobarbital solubility on the net (both water and alcohol are good) and I want to clean it pretty thoroughly.

Can any of you chemistry wiz-kids help me out?
 
There's very little in phenobarbital solubility on the net (both water and alcohol are good)
Wrong. Phenobarbital is only sparingly soluble in water (1 part in 1000 parts water; going down to 1+100 in boiling water), and good soluble in EtOH (1+8 ). It's sodium salt on the other hand is very good water-soluble (1+2), and almost as good soluble in EtOH as the free acid (1+10).


Separation of the named compounds could be achieved by employing their specific acid/base-properties and solubilities:

1. Codeine is a base and can be separated by A/B-extraction at sufficiently basic pH.

2. Aspirine (pKa = 3.5) hydrolyzes easily (at both acidic and alkaline pH) to salicylic acid (pKa = 2.75), which enables it's separation by carefully adjusting the pH during the 2nd A/B-extraction (pKa of phenobarbital is 7.3). I'd think weak bases like NaHCO3 could be helpful here, as is the Henderson-Hasselbalch-equation.

3. Separation of caffeine and phenobarbital can be tried either by using their different solubility in ether (phenobarbital 1+20, caffeine 1+900) or in water (phenobarbital as above, caffeine 1+60, but this ration goes significantly down at higher temperatures).

4. Separating phenobarbital and paracetamol can be achieved easily by using their different solubility in ether (paracetamol <1+1000).


The details you need to figure out on your own.


Peace! - Murphy
 
phenobarbitone sodium. Molecular formula: C12h11n2nao3. Mw: 254.2. Cas: 57-30-7. It is a white, odourless, hygroscopic powder, granules or flakes. It is very soluble in water and soluble in alcohol, practically insoluble in chloroform and ether. A 10% solution in water has a ph of not more than 10.2
mims
 
It's the free acid, in my case. I've even checked with a pharmacist, in the unlikely event the prospect is wrong.
 
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