PGA Tour leaning toward drug tests

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PGA Tour leaning toward drug tests
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June 22, 2007


The PGA Tour is getting closer to a rule on performance-enhancing drugs, and with testing likely to follow, commissioner Tim Finchem says golf organizations around the world should make sure they're on the same page.

Even with Tiger Woods among those in favor of drug testing to prove golf is clean, Finchem has defended the tour's lack of plan because he has found no evidence of performance-enhancing drugs or evidence of players using them.

He conceded, however, that drug testing in sports has become a reality.


“It's unfortunate that these realities are with us, but they are,” Finchem said Wednesday at the Travelers Championship. “And we have to deal with them, and I think it's important that golf deal with them collectively.”

Woods said last summer that he didn't think anyone was using steroids, but it could be a problem in the future. Asked when he would like to see a drug-testing plan, Woods replied, “Tomorrow would be fine with me.”

Finchem has moved a little slower.

The PGA Tour policy board in November authorized the tour to develop a list of prohibited substances, along with creating an education program to inform players about how they might get into the body, the health risks, potential testing and possible penalties.

“We don't have a rule on performance-enhancing drugs; we never have had,” Finchem said. “We're getting close on that. I suspect we'll be done with that certainly this year.”

Finchem said he is working with other golf organizations “to see if we can't move forward together with respect to what a rule is, and then beyond that, in terms of the execution of the rule.”

He said that likely would mean a testing program “so that we have a legitimacy to the rule.”

The LPGA Tour announced last year it would start drug testing in 2008. Commissioner Carolyn Bivens said the tour would develop its policy through the National Center for Drug Free Sport, which manages testing programs for the NCAA and other organizations.

The penalty for testing positive would be 25 tournaments for the first offense, 50 tournaments for the second offense and a lifetime ban for a third violation.

European Tour chief executive George O'Grady said last month that his tour would have a drug policy in January, and he urged that the golf world unite on any such policy.

“I personally don't think we've got a drug problem in professional golf. I haven't met anybody yet who thinks we have,” O'Grady said. “But we work with governments in so many different countries. They are insisting on a wider list.”

In amateur golf, the Royal & Ancient Golf Club and U.S. Golf Association - which govern golf around the world - did a sample test at the World Amateur Team Championship in South Africa late last year, and all 12 golfers came back clean. Finchem recommended that all golf organizations develop a single standard on what to test for and how.

“In Europe, in particular, and in certain other areas of the world, the idea of testing in athletics is just a reality, because it's government required,” he said.

J.J. Henry, back in Connecticut defending his first tour win last year, said he doesn't think testing will have a big impact on the sport.

“A lot of people have talked about that integrity and honesty of golf is what makes it so special,” he said. “I'd like to think there's none of that going on out here, to be honest with you.”

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Drug testing any athletes is ridiculous in the first place, and golfers aren't even athletes!
 
Test Jonn Daly first. With a physique like that he's gotta be juicing.

Golf's cool though, you actually allowed to smoke while you're playing.
 
Broshious said:
golfers aren't even athletes!

when was the last time you tried to play golf? never, mini golf dose not count. golfs wayy harder than it looks. it requires tons of practice time and commitment so yes in that since they are athletes. they might not have to run, but they need to hit every ball perfectly.
 
Broshious said:
Drug testing any athletes is ridiculous in the first place, and golfers aren't even athletes!

Don't comment on what you know nothing about. Perhaps 20 years ago you might have had a point but nowadays pro golfers are athletes who spend many hours in the gym worrking on strengthening/conditioning.

its great that they are doing this but there is nothing to stop an amateur bulking up on steroids and then working those muscles in a clean way as they rise up the ranks. I'm sure there are more golfers using steroids then you would think.

Quite sure a few have a few lines of charlie during breaks from the sport as well.
 
I'm sorry but I doubt that the majority of golfers spend "hours in the gym working on strength/conditioning." I'll go out on a limb and say that besides Tiger Woods, most of the top players don't. Take Mickleson, Vijay, Cabrera, etc. for example.

Nonetheless they are athletes though.
 
billywitchdoc.com said:
when was the last time you tried to play golf? never, mini golf dose not count. golfs wayy harder than it looks. it requires tons of practice time and commitment so yes in that since they are athletes. they might not have to run, but they need to hit every ball perfectly.

So by that logic pro gamers are also athletes.
 
I say let all athletes take whatever drugs they want to enhance performance.

That way:

1. (pun intended) The playing field is level again.

2. There won't be any more time-wasting drug tests.

3. Society can jettison a little more hypocrisy by sending the message to little kids that it's alright to do drugs if they help you do a better job and kick some ass.

4. These fucking athletes can come a little closer to earning their outrageous salaries by taking steroids n' speed and scoring some more goddamn points.

I mean, if a football ticket is gonna cost $100 for some bleacher seat located in the ionosphere, I wanna see a game with 87 touchdowns and a bench-clearing brawl before halftime.
 
pickapocket said:
Don't comment on what you know nothing about. Perhaps 20 years ago you might have had a point but nowadays pro golfers are athletes who spend many hours in the gym worrking on strengthening/conditioning.

johndalyteeingoff.jpg

(John Daly)
 
lagomorpha said:
I thought Fatal1ty was looking a little bulkier recently, must be those steroids. I guess we know which tournaments will be drug testing next.

Concerned about some professional gamers gaining an upper hand in the alertness and reflexes departments, the Cyberathlete Professional League is in the beginning stages of instituting a drug testing program for all elligible players.

I guess golfing and gaming ARE equally athletic.
 
tobala said:
I say let all athletes take whatever drugs they want to enhance performance.

That way:

1. (pun intended) The playing field is level again.

2. There won't be any more time-wasting drug tests.

3. Society can jettison a little more hypocrisy by sending the message to little kids that it's alright to do drugs if they help you do a better job and kick some ass.

4. These fucking athletes can come a little closer to earning their outrageous salaries by taking steroids n' speed and scoring some more goddamn points.

I mean, if a football ticket is gonna cost $100 for some bleacher seat located in the ionosphere, I wanna see a game with 87 touchdowns and a bench-clearing brawl before halftime.

You should add that if a golfer was to take any kind of "performance enhancing drugs" what would they be?
  • Stimulants (Cocaine/ Dextro-Amphetamine/ Methamphetamine / etc): They'd never be able to keep composure, they'd be jittery and eventually agressive. The PGA Tour is like upper-class society, the level of esteem and notereity these people must present is not possible when your agressive, forward, and especially hyperactive / jittery. Use would have an opposite effect for golfers for both maintaining the calm and precise movements to make the perfect drive. Sure they can drive the ball further but the end will ultimately have them throwing the clubs further than the ball goes cause of the agressive behavior they may get. Oh, and if they're using cocaine, good luck trying to blow a line with a few million people around the world watching you.
  • Depressants (Benzodiazepines / Opiates / etc): Some people consider them to be god-send for focus though the effect on the central nervous system would be a negative performance factor for them. They'd be less able to hit the ball and furthermore be unable to keep up with the long rounds of golf. They'd be fatigued and unfocused pretty quickly. Alcohol would just make them drunk and disorderly and last I checked thats a crime along with public intoxication.
  • Marijuana: Last I checked marijuana was as bad of a performance enhancing drug as any of these. Being stoned would let people relax but they'd never keep up with the hectic of a round of golf on national / international television. They'd miss the ball on the first hole trying to tee off and then start giggling thinking they just saw Phil Nicholson chasing after Tiger Woods with a neuce realizing it was just the sound guy walking with the cameraman getting ready to cover the stupid round of golf.
  • Psychadelics: How is seeing a pink elephant running down the fairway going to help them with golfing. Sure they'll have a bigger target until they drop their club thinking its a snake as they have a bad trip from all the cameras and people around them.

Anyways, if they want to use drugs to play golf, let them. Cause they may get a few positive results initially but the problems that will eventually arise from abuse of the drugs will be far more negative then the few positives they initially gained. And even if they gain results from stimulants, the eventual public pressure and bad press they'll gain if it were ever to come out would ruin their career. Not to mention the signs of someone using some kind of drug even if not known to the PGA Tour would eventually be seen by one or many of the millions that watch Golf. Hiding a drug addiction, or being high on TV is not a good idea for a golfer. Let John Daly smoke his cigarettes, maybe he'll get an endorsement deal with Phillip-Morris being the next "Marlboro Man".

Oh, and remember the fact that golfers are usually more mature, intelligent, driven individuals who are mainly family-men / women (yes, there are female golfers too, along with the WNBA, damn feminism) and are constantly in the public spotlight. Celebrity musicians and actors can get away with using but Golfers along with most other athletes are put in the thick of long driven, focused, and demanding games. Stimulant use in most sports puts the health risks in prime light. There have been professional bicyclists who have died using amphetamines for instance. Performance enhancing drugs are a thing of fiction nowadays. You don't get a head with some kind of drug, its now people getting ahead with hormones, steroids.

Steroids still come with their signs of use. Golfers tend to be lean and relaxed people, you don't need huge muscles to play a round of golf like a pro, you just need coordination and good form, its discipline not strength that wins most sports today, people just have seemed to forget that.

Golfers don't need to be drug tested, period. Athletes in general shouldn't be drug tested. Drug testing can show signs of both immediate (recent) and past use. You shouldn't be penalized for having a good time outside of a sporting event, so why should drugs which can be detected for far longer than a few hours be tested for. People should use proper judgement with such decisions such as drug testing. If there needs to be a drug test because of pressure, it should be a new form of test that is done during PGA Tour events that detects use with hours leading up to / during the event, not some test to show that Tiger Woods gets high on weekends.
 
^^^^ I think the only substance these two "athletes" should be tested for is cholesterol.
 
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