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People Who Don't Show Appreciation

Asparagus_Prince

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This post is long but at least read this first paragraph before skipping. I want to talk about people that struggle showing appreciation. Not the feeling of being unappreciated, so much. If you're someone that feels like you're not good at showing appreciation, PLEASE chime in and spitball your thoughts at me. But first, I wanted to share what prompted me to start this thread....

I saw a meme recently that was something like this: "If people don't appreciate your efforts then stop trying to please them"

My reflex response to this meme was: "Of course. I agree 100% and I'm sure almost everyone agrees with this". But then I thought more about it and decided I didn't like the meme. And the reason is because it reminded me of various people I've known that I know appreciate certain favors/help/gifts. But I also know they struggle to show it for one reason or another.

I come from a family that is exactly the opposite. We make too big of a deal over gifts, favors, etc.

But then there are people like my ex, for example. I know she's been accused of not saying "thank you" and showing appreciation. But this is the same person that would obsess about "proper protocol" or "saying the wrong thing". I remember once we were at a funeral and she was a nervous wreck. She asked me what she was supposed to do. "Nothing!" I told her we're not expected to do anything and to simply mill around. She also "didn't know" what to do or say if you were to give her a surprise gift, for example.

So I don't like the meme. Of course we don't want to continuously bend-over-backwards for people that are taking advantage of us. But being taken advantage of and not showing appreciation are two separate conversations. I'd prefer the meme be more like:

<<<If someone doesn't appreciate your efforts consider this: They may in fact appreciate it deeply, but they simply struggle with showing it. Perhaps they feel like they've relied on others too much and they're ashamed. Maybe they feel like they don't deserve it. And maybe, just maybe, they're so used to people treating them badly that they don't trust it. Maybe previous partners have tried to 'buy' affection to hold it over his/her head and guilt-trip. It doesn't mean she/he thinks you'll do the same thing. But maybe it tiggers semi-traumatic emotions or memories>>>

That's too long for a meme, isn't it? lol

Besides, I'm guessing most of you would agree that we shouldn't give only so we can receive something in return. Which includes someone else's outward appreciation. I'm not religious but I'd like to think the "Christ-like" approach would be to continue giving and treating others well. Full stop. I can't imagine the Jesus that I was taught about as a little boy being like: "Hey! I healed his blindness! And the cocksucker didn't show enough appreciation!"

Anyway, like I said in the opening... please respond however you want. I'd be curious to hear other people's theories/stories on why certain people they know don't seem to show appreciation. And for the ones that struggle showing it, I especially would like to hear from you!
 
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This is an excellent topic and I am going to respond once I think about it and read it again. I do know I go out of my way in a big way to appreciate every little thing everybody does. I do that to my own detriment it seems which is another topic.
 
I feel like I’ve been on both ends of this.

I think sometimes we expect too much from other people. We gauge how they react as though it’s personal somehow. And I don’t think that’s fair.

If someone does something nice for me, it’s not up to them how I get to feel about it…

Pushing expectations onto others will always leave a bad taste … kind things should be done with no strings attached.

Though I do completely understand where you’re coming from. And it seems like you have good intentions 🩵
 
You really hit a deep and interesting topic Asparagus_Prince, read it all.
But for a well overthought reply i ll need a little time to let it settle and figure out.
So that means at least reading it a few more times. But its in my mind now, so come back later.

Good topics stimulate thinking.

 
make too big of a deal over gifts, favors,
this maybe as she knows that before that gift so it is not something new like you change poles idk...just thinking,

and yeah its hard to not knowing when she look at you and the gift and she thinks well so now he made me in his debt but without knowing you both its hard to make some judgements

dont sweat to much your cheek is clean as saying goes, you did good, leave her to sweat if cant say thank you and smile
 
An never solved argument with my girl was about pleasing. and from her side showing appreciation,
or lack of which to here seemed it was taken for granted. And she felt maybe hurt or unappreciated.
Never acually told me how it was for her, but it did play a bigt role in her younger years towards her mother.

My upgrowing being oooposit my mom include. Pleasing someone in itself was rewarding. You could say it s an positve effect of an egoistic based move. Helping some just feels good, no need for thanks i don t expect return, though do appreciate if someone does.

You realize it really mattered more then just that it felt right to do. Well an argument stays an an argument tried adating bu jumping on command feels different as by free will.
 
What about "if people don't appreciate your efforts you probably didn't make a good enough effort so don't seriously say it's not something they "want anyway" because it just sounds like something out of the mouth of an effortless person"

I came by during Katrina and threw a twig in your general direction but you felt like drowning anyway. Just see if I throw another twig near you again

meanwhile I'm on a half a life raft you are calling a pool float
 
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What about "if people don't appreciate your efforts you probably didn't make a good enough effort so don't seriously say it's not something they "want anyway" because it just sounds like something out of the mouth of an effortless person"
I get a bit lost around the halfway point of your quote above. But as for the part about people not appreciating your efforts because your efforts suck.... lol, I got a slight chuckle out of that. That definitely happens too. Not with me, of course, because my efforts are always impeccable. But in all seriousness I do have an aunt that does things for me that I don't need and/or she gives me things I don't want. Then she goes around making sure everyone is aware of the great things she's done. It's so hard for me to fake appreciation in that situation.
 
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And if she gives you something she'll inquire about it some day in the future. "Have you used that foot massager I gave you?" And if they answer is no she'll guilt trip you.

Anyone know someone like that? I'm sure most of you do.
 
Helping some just feels good, no need for thanks i don t expect return, though do appreciate if someone does.
This is why I wish people would treat others better. It makes them feel good, and it makes YOU feel good. Everybody wins! Wouldn't the world would be such a nicer place?

I feel like a goodie-two-shoes after that first sentence! Like that overly optimistic smiling hippie therapist. In real life people are more likely to accuse me of being a grump, though.

"Selflessness" can be an interesting, complicated word. If someone helps someone in some profound way we tend to say that person is selfless. But aren't they doing it so it makes THEM feel good too? So, in a way they are using you selfishly so they can feel better themselves. lol... that sounds awful but my point is that that's ok! It's a good thing, not a bad thing. It just feeds back into the "everybody wins so let's just do it" approach.

At the end of day us humans are selfish creatures even when we think we're helping others. If tomorrow I jump in a lake to save a drowning child, am I REALLY propelled by the idea of saving someone's life? Or am I doing it because I know, if I don't jump in that lake, I will forever be tormented by the memories of my insouciance. So aren't I doing it for ME? To save MYSELF from life-long guilt and regret? I'd wager most people would have a hard time living with the memory of standing and watching a child drown

lol... I took some THC edibles over and hour ago and I can't say for sure I remember what the original point was. I'm giggling as I type this. I THINK I went way-off topic with the child drowning thing. But maybe not at all. I don't know. I can kinda remember where I was wanting to go with this. Or did I already go there? And if I didn't, why not? And as Frank Drebin would say: And where the hell am I?
 
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"Selflessness" can be an interesting, complicated word. If someone helps someone in some profound way we tend to say that person is selfless. But aren't they doing it so it makes THEM feel good too? So, in a way they are using you selfishly so they can feel better themselves. lol... that sounds awful but my point is that that's ok! It's a good thing, not a bad thing. It just feeds back into the "everybody wins so let's just do it" approach.

related reading: there is no such thing as a selfless act

alasdair
 
sometimes i feel like i just don't really emphasize how i feel very well.. i always say "thank you" and "i appreciate it", but i don't know if it's clear that i really mean it.

i can kind of tell when i do a favor for or get someone something they don't want, it's a bit different than if they just aren't really paying attention. like sometimes people appreciate stuff and kind of take it for granted instead of showing appreciation. like they'd definitely prefer the favor or gift but don't show appreciation. they lack manners pretty much. who's to say that using manners is how to live though. maybe you should just assume they appreciate it. lol. i dunno. i like pretty open communication even if it can get redundant. like it might be kind of crazy, like some people might be like "you won't even believe it if i say i'm thankful" so they don't even bother seeming like they are taking it for granted. lol
 
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