People That Shaped The Furture Of Music

Originally posted by headknocka
the man himself ...the artist...had a purpose...a vision of a way to portray a certin way of life that he thought he could help change...he lived his life....he had problems in his life...identity crisis whatever you want to call it...but his words were so powerfull they sparked minds everywhere ...rappers ...reg people....everyone...you will never hear another rapper not credit tupac with beign an influence on rap music ...even when the man was alive i never heard too many rappers not mention his name when they are or were asked who are their influences... they all say the name tupac .

now...

the influence he sparked may not have been what he wanted...or what many people wanted...but it was highly influential in the shaping of rap music


how hard was that? i think, perhaps, you've been overthinking this. the above paragraph finally gives some insight into how he may have helped shaped music.

it's called discussion. it's fun! try it more - you might enjoy it ;)

alasdair
 
Larr_E said:
If its poetry that you are looking for then i'd say Common would blow Tupac away any day of the week... You seem to have a real bleak out look on the culture as a whole...
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common has massive talent. but ever since he dropped 'sense' from his name all he's been rapping about is love.

now there's nothing wrong with that...


except it gets really old after a while.




i'd like to mention that tupac wasn't exactly meant to be an artist. he was a criminal, but he had alot of good thoughts and he told it like it was where he lives. i think that if you don't realize this, you just don't understand the meaning of the songs. you probably have never lived in the hood, or the projects, or have had to go through the things some of the REAL hiphop/rap artists go through.

if you are from the suburbs, please do not judge hiphop or rap. just say you don't like it.

as for saying no one can match up, i'm talking mainly about the harder side of hiphop, the street type. krs-one and others are fucking amazing, but they don't really talk about the same types of things.
 
why should someone not judge rap or hip hop if they are from the suburbs? are they not entitled to an opinion? where i grew up, far from the suburbs, we didn't have any $$$ to buy cd's... we had nothing extra.... maybe if the people in the suburbs knew they shouldn't have an opinion, they may quit purchasing.... anyway, where are you from??? where you live does not make you any less involved in music of any kind.... what kind of music should people from the suburbs judge??%)
 
I'm from Miami, since you asked. South Miami. Modello park section 8 housing projects born and raised, now living in Florida City, which is just another part of Miami. They also call Florida City 'Chopper City' because it's well known for it's AK47's, heh.

I'm saying people who grew up with wealth, i.e. middle-upper middle class suburbanites all the way to rich oil tycoons don't have the mindset to understand certain types of rap and hiphop. how can someone who's mommy bought him a car for his 16th birthday and lives in a 250,000 dollar house relate to any of the struggles that tupac, shyne, any of the more 'gangster' or 'criminal' sides fo hiphop.

I didn't mean to go as far as to say that people from the suburbs shouldn't judge hiphop, but just because you didn't grow up in the ghetto and don't understand what they're saying doesn't give anyone the right to say 'it sucks' or 'it's not really music'.

I'd also like to add that although they are a relatively new band compared to the others listed, Poison the Well changed hardcore music forever, for better or for worse. If you are unaware of 'hardcore' music as a genre, please do not respond to my entry. One of the first bands to start mixing more melody and emotion and tempo changes in hardcore music. I believe they're one of hte first bands to do it, much less actually get popular.

And if you disagree - you should've been in the south florida hardcore/crossover scene in the mid 90's. You'd see it's true. They've been doing it, and doing it for a long time, even though their new cd sucks.
 
Oh, and I believe where you are from DOES affect your involvement in music.

Which is why there are different styles of hiphop and rap from all over the states, ad well as hardcore/rock, some exclusive to certain areas alone.
 
ok ok I've been reading this thread and I've hardly even heard the mention of the trance genre in here what the hell about Underworld - pushers of the vinyl in the younger days of trance even while they where pushing out classic songs as a band they had a huge influence on trance and the way it is today, Tiesto!!!! come on he has pretty much shaped trance in the palm of his hand everyone has at least experienced his melodic trance and house styles once in their lifetimes knowingly or otherwise in a club mixed through another DJ's set he is part of the backbone of todays peaking generation!!
 
JESUS CHRIST THERE ARE SO MANY FUCKING TRANCE THREADS ALREADY [Flames removed. United version sent to the Worst of Bluelight forum -BA]. can we please have ONE thread that's not about fucking techno?
 
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Cole Porter, Frank Loesser, and Stephen Sondheim, were all instrumental in forging a close relationship between lyric and music. Although they wrote for a specific genre - the musical theatre - their songs have undoubtedly influenced modern music.
 
malachi305: People are free to voice their opinion regardless if it's trance, techno, or jungle. :\
 
HeadKnocka- Chill..No ones opinion is really going to match every one else's..dont be trying to instill your views in every reply opposite of yours..its obvious you like to have your point be the last..aint gonna happen man.. :)
 
BlueAdonis said:
malachi305: People are free to voice their opinion regardless if it's trance, techno, or jungle. :\
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THERE. ARE. TOO. MANY. TECHNO. THREADS.


electronica isn't the only type of music. there's a million other threads about influential electronica artists, he should post in there.


And I'd like to know how i flamed anyone, and I'd like to see where it's posted at.

Moron.
 
You'd like to see where it's posted at?
WTF does that even mean? If anyone knows what was said, you should.

And I never said "electronica WAS the only type of music", in fact, NOBODY said it was, Captain Obvious. People are free to voice their opinion in this thread without you hassling them crying about "Oooh Mmmy Goood, there's too many electronic threads already, go post there.. waaaaa waaaaaa"

If you feel there are too many topics dealing with electronic music, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT and start some non-electronic music discussion. Start some topics, generate some discussion, do something........Bitching and moaning about it ain't solving shit.
 
Chuck Schuldiner - The father of death metal and grindcore. Easily one of the most influential men in all of metal. While it could be argued that Slayer created death metal in many ways, Schuldiner fully realized the potential of it. There are few musicians that could rival his creativity and songwriting talents.

Varg Vikernes - While not really an originator of the genre, he is probably the most well known figure in black/scandanavian metal, both from his music and his lifestyle. All though hated just as much, if not more, than he is appreciated, few black metal fans would deny his influence over the genre.
 
"Chuck Schuldiner - The father of death metal and grindcore. Easily one of the most influential men in all of metal."



grindcore?
ithinknot.
 
malachi305 said:
"Chuck Schuldiner - The father of death metal and grindcore. Easily one of the most influential men in all of metal."



grindcore?
ithinknot.
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I've always considered "Leprosy" to have a grindcore sound to it, all though it is a matter of opinion.

By leading the first generation of death metal, even if he didn't really start grindcore himself, he certainly had a major influence over it.
 
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