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I'm a french national of arabic descendance that happened to be born in The Netherlands yeah ..

I don't know what was deemed offensive about the tag really, people online want to associate homosexuality with positive things?

I always considered myself pretty liberal but the whole woke thing puzzles me sometimes.

My ex-husband/father-of-child's family were from the Netherlands.. Friesland, so their language was closer to Afrikaans than Dutch I think?

His mother (who was actually his grandmother because their daughter brought shame upon the family in the late-60s, so they adopted him) had been in Australia for 40 years and barely spoke a word of English lol.

Where abouts are you?
 
My ex-husband/father-of-child's family were from the Netherlands.. Friesland, so their language was closer to Afrikaans than Dutch I think?

His mother (who was actually his grandmother because their daughter brought shame upon the family in the late-60s, so they adopted him) had been in Australia for 40 years and barely spoke a word of English lol.

Where abouts are you?
Fries is a peculiar language I can hardly understand 1 out of three words spoken, Afrikaans is easier to understand, so I think it's more closely related to regular dutch not 100 % sure though .

I have lived in The Hague most of my life, it's the adminstrative capital by the sea in the south-west of the country.
 
Fries is a peculiar language I can hardly understand 1 out of three words spoken, Afrikaans is easier to understand, so I think it's more closely related to regular dutch not 100 % sure though .

I have lived in The Hague most of my life, it's the adminstrative capital by the sea in the south-west of the country.

I wanted him to teach it to our daughter but he hated his family and said "no, I want it to die with me" lol.
 
I just discovered these videos today and quite like the guy. He just says what he thinks in a short video and most I've watched I agree with.

This normalisation of pedophilia goes completely against my instincts. I'm a mother and have always loved my daughter intensely. The idea of someone violating her sexually literally makes me snarl. This woman defending pedos is speaking from a superficial, academic, removed viewpoint and should just stfu.

 
I just discovered these videos today and quite like the guy. He just says what he thinks in a short video and most I've watched I agree with.

This normalisation of pedophilia goes completely against my instincts. I'm a mother and have always loved my daughter intensely. The idea of someone violating her sexually literally makes me snarl. This woman defending pedos is speaking from a superficial, academic, removed viewpoint and should just stfu.



Well, regarding the video you posted and the speaker in the beginning, I don't think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation"...to me it seems more like a fetish or paraphilia.

But her statement that acting out this so-called sexual orientation will end in "disaster"...I'd like to know what she said immediately after that, but the video cuts off right there. She could have been making the point that it ends in disaster because a child gets victimized or abused, right? It would have been nice to get additional context for that comment because it is pretty clear that pedophilia has disastrous consequences for the victims of such behavior.

One thing I'd be curious to know, for anyone who feels that pedophilia is being "normalized" in today's society: have you ever witnessed examples of this normalization that wasn't mediated through a screen? Serious question. Like have you been in a classroom where someone has said, say gang, I really think we oughta take another look at this whole pedophilia thing? Have you ever had a drink at a bar with a coworker where they woefully commented that it was so unfair that it's socially unacceptable to fuck kids? Have you driven by a collection of people on the street holding signs reading "LIBERATE THE PEDOS"? I'm genuinely curious
 
She could have been making the point that it ends in disaster because a child gets victimized or abused, right?

That's what I was thinking. But really this whole "they don't choose to be that way" = "it's not their fault", heading toward "it's acceptable".

I saw a Louis Theroux doco in a prison in England specifically for pedos, which is probably the best place for them.


have you ever witnessed examples of this normalization that wasn't mediated through a screen?

No, but I'm a middle-aged hermit from Australia. Wrong country and wrong generation.
 
I think you could make a strong argument that it's not their choice to have those desires. I mean think about your own sexual desires: did you "choose" those desires, or did they seemingly appear more just as a natural development of your sexuality? This is especially apparent in the case of pedophiles because they're basically the most hated people in our society and no one would "choose" to have such sexual desires.

However, while it isn't your fault if you have a specific sexual desire, even a deviant or morally transgressive sexual desire, it IS your fault, and you SHOULD be held accountable, if you act upon those desires and hurt another person! I don't think that it's difficult at all to hold such a position.

And just to be clear, I'm well aware that just because I can't see something in "real life", that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Just because I don't see any pedos, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. Just because I can't see any twerking, gyrating trannies or whatever, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. Or (more relevant to left-wing anxieties, probably) just because I can't see any Neo-Nazis or avowed white supremacists, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. However, if you're taking on the position that pedophilia, of all things, is being NORMALIZED, you should be able to see SOMETHING to indicate that in the wider society I would think.
 
One thing I'd be curious to know, for anyone who feels that pedophilia is being "normalized" in today's society: have you ever witnessed examples of this normalization that wasn't mediated through a screen? Serious question. Like have you been in a classroom where someone has said, say gang, I really think we oughta take another look at this whole pedophilia thing? Have you ever had a drink at a bar with a coworker where they woefully commented that it was so unfair that it's socially unacceptable to fuck kids? Have you driven by a collection of people on the street holding signs reading "LIBERATE THE PEDOS"? I'm genuinely curious

if you live in certain parts of the world and have a big enough social network I'm sure you would get many yes's. For me, no, because I have typically lived in conservative places where people don't talk about sex openly with each other very often and when they do it's the straight adult variety.

I'm not sure how the screen comes into play here? These aren't fictionalized accounts. I think everyone is still in agreement that we are in the early phases. It will not have reached everyone personally yet. What's happening now actually depends very much on the screen because the screen disseminates targeted ideological messaging to the masses.

It is becoming much scarier now because they have attached themselves onto this well meaning progressive trans inclusion stuff. Bringing what was once reserved for adults in nightclubs to mainstream television, then when a sufficient amount of desensitization has occurred, into your libraries and schools. Years down the road if it continues down this path, where will that lead?

Right now we have soccer moms gleefully exposing their children to gyrating men, asses hanging out, collecting tips. We have academics on random stages around the world suggesting that pedophiles are misunderstood, that they aren't perverts but victims and shouldn't have to live their lives in shame of how they were born. Maybe we can come up with a pill that will let them live among us. Maybe the monitoring standards we have now are impeding on their privacy too much.

Maybe if a 12 year old can consent to hormone blockers and gender surgeries they can consent to other things too. I mean, we are going down that path quite quickly. If a 12 year old has autonomy over their body in those scenarios, it becomes very difficult to argue why they couldn't have sexual autonomy as well.
 
Well, regarding the video you posted and the speaker in the beginning, I don't think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation"...to me it seems more like a fetish or paraphilia.

But her statement that acting out this so-called sexual orientation will end in "disaster"...I'd like to know what she said immediately after that, but the video cuts off right there. She could have been making the point that it ends in disaster because a child gets victimized or abused, right? It would have been nice to get additional context for that comment because it is pretty clear that pedophilia has disastrous consequences for the victims of such behavior.

One thing I'd be curious to know, for anyone who feels that pedophilia is being "normalized" in today's society: have you ever witnessed examples of this normalization that wasn't mediated through a screen? Serious question. Like have you been in a classroom where someone has said, say gang, I really think we oughta take another look at this whole pedophilia thing? Have you ever had a drink at a bar with a coworker where they woefully commented that it was so unfair that it's socially unacceptable to fuck kids? Have you driven by a collection of people on the street holding signs reading "LIBERATE THE PEDOS"? I'm genuinely curious
First of all I do think people are born pedophiles and I think in the near future they will be able to recognize it with brain imagery , however this doesn't justify the behaviour , human beings can control their base impulses to a certain degree after all.

Secondly in the Netherlands there was a political organisation advocating for pedophile rights , it's been banned a couple years ago.
 
if you live in certain parts of the world and have a big enough social network I'm sure you would get many yes's. For me, no, because I have typically lived in conservative places where people don't talk about sex openly with each other very often and when they do it's the straight adult variety.

I'm not sure how the screen comes into play here? These aren't fictionalized accounts. I think everyone is still in agreement that we are in the early phases. It will not have reached everyone personally yet. What's happening now actually depends very much on the screen because the screen disseminates targeted ideological messaging to the masses.

It is becoming much scarier now because they have attached themselves onto this well meaning progressive trans inclusion stuff. Bringing what was once reserved for adults in nightclubs to mainstream television, then when a sufficient amount of desensitization has occurred, into your libraries and schools. Years down the road if it continues down this path, where will that lead?

Right now we have soccer moms gleefully exposing their children to gyrating men, asses hanging out, collecting tips. We have academics on random stages around the world suggesting that pedophiles are misunderstood, that they aren't perverts but victims and shouldn't have to live their lives in shame of how they were born. Maybe we can come up with a pill that will let them live among us. Maybe the monitoring standards we have now are impeding on their privacy too much.

Maybe if a 12 year old can consent to hormone blockers and gender surgeries they can consent to other things too. I mean, we are going down that path quite quickly. If a 12 year old has autonomy over their body in those scenarios, it becomes very difficult to argue why they couldn't have sexual autonomy as well.
Exactly, it’s fucked…we’re fucked…i really think most people know the difference between right and wrong and where proper morality should sit…we know when kids are sexually abused they tend to have alot of issues as adults, this is a fact so why anyone would think it’s ok to start exposing kids to this shit is beyond most humans morals, but the social climate these days makes people more afraid of being called a racist or bigot or whatever than they are to go against their morals…I’m seriously losing hope in humanity
 
I don't think anyone is born a pedophile. That behavior is a reaction to something that went wrong for them at some point in their lives. I think a person's own failures and frustrations around sex lead them to look for other alternatives when the traditional avenues haven't worked. They become ashamed and reclusive and start to associate those feelings with sex. Mix in some meth or alcohol, perhaps your brain starts developing positive associations with the deviant behavior you once wanted to escape, so you keep going back to it. Before long it's imbedded in you and a part of who you are. A habit, an obsession, whatever... very often coupled with and triggered by some kind of substance abuse.

And that's leaving out all the actual scum and evil that does exist. That has no explanation or excuse no matter how compassionate you are. The really bad ones.

very different than growing up, living an ordinary life, but finding male body characteristics more appealing than a females. Finding the company of men more romantically satisfying. And developing those bonds normally and healthily throughout your life.
 
if you live in certain parts of the world and have a big enough social network I'm sure you would get many yes's. For me, no, because I have typically lived in conservative places where people don't talk about sex openly with each other very often and when they do it's the straight adult variety.

I'm not sure how the screen comes into play here? These aren't fictionalized accounts. I think everyone is still in agreement that we are in the early phases. It will not have reached everyone personally yet. What's happening now actually depends very much on the screen because the screen disseminates targeted ideological messaging to the masses.

It is becoming much scarier now because they have attached themselves onto this well meaning progressive trans inclusion stuff. Bringing what was once reserved for adults in nightclubs to mainstream television, then when a sufficient amount of desensitization has occurred, into your libraries and schools. Years down the road if it continues down this path, where will that lead?

Right now we have soccer moms gleefully exposing their children to gyrating men, asses hanging out, collecting tips. We have academics on random stages around the world suggesting that pedophiles are misunderstood, that they aren't perverts but victims and shouldn't have to live their lives in shame of how they were born. Maybe we can come up with a pill that will let them live among us. Maybe the monitoring standards we have now are impeding on their privacy too much.

Maybe if a 12 year old can consent to hormone blockers and gender surgeries they can consent to other things too. I mean, we are going down that path quite quickly. If a 12 year old has autonomy over their body in those scenarios, it becomes very difficult to argue why they couldn't have sexual autonomy as well.

I've lived in a lot of places and I've never seen pedophilia being normalized. That's why I'm skeptical of the idea that it is, because I haven't seen it with my own eyes.

And like I said, I'm well aware, intellectually, that just because I can't see it with my own eyes, that doesn't mean something isn't real. However, when someone puts forward a viewpoint or argument regarding something that is supposedly happening right now in society that is RADICALLY at odds with my own idea of "common sense" and personal experience, I'm gonna be skeptical and question that and I don't think that's unreasonable at all personally.

Screens come into the picture because, for better or for worse, it's through these experiences that many people consume information and construct their overall worldview in today's world. And that's a good thing in certain respects...I mean that's what we're doing right now, right? But the downsides of this are obvious I think, including the fact that enables immersive propaganda landscapes that people can get utterly lost in and end up believing the most inane and ridiculous bullshit that anyone can think of. This is something that both sides of the political spectrum embrace to some degree, as a way to explain why the other side believes what it does: from the right you get the notion that everybody who believes in a way oppositional to them is simply an NPC who eagerly laps up whatever the corrupt mainstream media spoon-feeds them, and from the left you get the idea that everyone on the right is so lost in a haze of anti-vax or stop the steal blogs or whatever that they just completely lost any and all touch with reality. So that's what I'm referring to here, a phenomenon that everyone agrees is happening, they just disagree on the specifics regarding who is rejecting the reality of the situation.

And regarding "where does it end?"...I'm sure you remember the heyday of state amendments protecting the institution of heterosexual marriage during the aughts, right? It was the kind of argument people used back then regarding why we should allow homosexuals to marry, like if you're a guy and you're allowed to marry another guy, what's to stop a guy from marrying a horse? In fact if you're someone with socially conservative/oppositional views regarding gay marriage, you could probably have a totally consistent line on this matter....like look, we allowed gay people to get married and now pedophilia is supposedly getting normalized and furries are teaching our kids, see what happened?

 
When you clearly establish consent as the guiding light in these discussions it is fairly easy to knock down these ridiculous comparisons.

Adults no matter their sex can engage in consensual relationships.

Animals, children, etc cannot. They do not possess the mental capability of understanding the consequences of their actions.

That's why we are heading down a dark path if we start pretending children have the capability of making medical decisions.
 
every day i see pedos who have harmed children get house arrest for their horrible fucking crimes under our woke gov who protects pedos to the max here giving them name suppression, house arrest for the vile things they do to children. All part of the woke left agenda to normalize pedos.

The elections can not come soon enough so we can vote in the right wing and start sending the pedos to jail again.

over 80% of pedos are on house arrest in this fucking woke bullshit country.

Many go onto become repeat offenders which could of been stopped if they were given life sentences. Id just hang them all so they never had the choice to even leave jail. They can not be fixed.

Some countries are alot worse and still practice child marriage such as islamic countries and india.

Prince andrew is protected by the elites and untouchable. Apparently the dective who exposed Savile after his death has alot more things on prince andrew that can only be published once that vile sick bastard dies.

Fuck these bastards. Epistein, bill clinton, bill gates, trump, Steven hawking, prince andrew, and all others who are untouchable doing evil shit and getting away with it in this corrupt as fuck system.

And fuck the russian army those orc bastards were raping everyone in ukraine. Yet no one country is willing to step in and help ukraine fight the horde of orcs and kill those pedo russian soliders
 
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