sounds like you get more than me even. anymore all i get are brighter colors and some increased pattern recognition. i do drift into eyes-closed imagination/fantasy more easily while tripping, but its still very much in my "mind's eye" rather than being like a legitimate visual thing.
Oh wow, yes I definitely get more than that. The sensory visuals I get do not tend to be very complex but they can still be quite prevalent. They do also pass into more intricate forms on occasion, but that is not something I ever fully expect when going into a trip.
The way you describe the mind's eye fantasy is exactly how it works for me on lower doses, and even those can be quite detailed these days, but pushing higher than that causes them to actually start overlapping reality in front of me. That's definitely been what often keeps me coming back for the visuals despite those other effects being weaker, as those dream-like perceptions can get pretty wild.
I'm wondering, what kinds of doses do you normally take for different things?
I thought I didn't get too many visuals either until I did high doses of LSD and DOC. They bring you directly into fantasyland.
high dose LSD for me creates sacred geometry patterns on everything and every time I look someone in the eyes I the sacred geometry aligns to all the planes of their facial structure! then during the peak I had very complex mind movies like waking dreams that had multiple different intertwining timelines that I felt like I was traveling through. also the sacred geometry didn't go away until I went to sleep.
high dose DOC makes you feel like the ground is much further away than usual, and stuff shrinks and grows very dramatically as your eyes focus on things. Trees look like coral swaying underwater and colors are so bright it looks like rainbows are ready to pop out of anything, and sometimes they do pop out of things, like the trees for me lol
Ah, I so wish I got geometric visuals like that from LSD! I have taken over 1000 mcg on several occasions and never had anything like that show up, though it does still give me some of the best visuals that I do get. On the other hand I do get the mind movies quite easily, and they're one of my favorite things about the trip.
I have never knowingly taken DOC, though I did once take a very high dose of some unidentified blotter that I now have some suspicions about being that. The visuals I got from it were indeed intense, but still only of the aforementioned type: warping, breathing, melting, tracers, and spinning wheels. However, I did once take half the dose of the same blotters outside at night, and just for a brief moment saw every blade of grass covered in the same genuine fractal pattern, one of the only times it has ever happened for me!
Actually, what I've really been thinking about now is how I might want to try pushing into the higher doses of tryptamines to see if I can achieve those kinds of visuals. For most of the psilocin analogues I have not gone above 25-30 mg, the reason being that I actually do get those dream-like visions and hallucinations strongly at those doses already along with a healthy dose of mania, but I'm wondering if maybe I do just need to start going like 50 mg or more if I want to see that kind of stuff. 4-HO-MET is the only one I have currently taken at that dose and it was definitely more beautiful and stunning than most trips I'm used to, but it's already easily the most visual for me at 25 mg as well, and it's also the most lucid. The others tend to make me a little crazier than that, so I am a little concerned as well about where I'd be by the time I was able to get those kinds of visuals on them....
