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If there is any work being done then it's by rogue psychologists/psychiatrists who don't really want to be uncovered. A change in policy is very much needed, yes. We're slowly working towards that though, it'll be exciting to see how the next 10-20 years will pan out.
I suppose you have a look at the institutions that are doing serious research on the beneficial use of psychoactives: it's pretty much a selection from the most prestigious universities. there will be a trickle down effect, I am sure. also the evidence we have is increasing and almost exclusively "on our side" (though as I said before: MDMA is not "safe"). I am convinced that at some point our cause will become too big to ignore. in science evidence always overpowers ideology in the long run.

Pretty much threw away any opportunity to be academically active during my "stupid years" :(
...haha, my stupid years never ended, I just somehow learned to project the perma-fuckup which is me into something that suits my fucked-up-ness. I merely learned that people whom I considered to be straight are just as fucked-up as I am and that it is not only tolerated but even expedient to carry a distinct load of fuckup with you if you want to suceed in the specific field. intrinsic motivation is what I am talking about. :)

Hopefully the situation within your family will change for the better, at least you have my prayer!

thanks! :) at some point any change is progress. I'm confident.

p.s What does your use of PAS stand for?
psychoactive substance. 8)

Also, does smoked DMT really count as psycholytic? Seems rather extreme to me :))
try it with MAOi. stretches it to integratable levels. once integrated repeat as needed. go on for hours. =D
(what makes this so attractive is also that there usually is not the slightest adverse reaction, neither physically nor mentally - not counting nostalgia as it is just too beautiful. as natural as it gets. "it's not a drug, it's a food!")
 
@Toucan:

Me too, Bach is my favorite composer by a long shot and probably about 80% of what I practice is Bach. I've been playing since I was about 4/5 and I am 28 now. I pretty much finishedThough in my college years I had extremely limited access to piano's and I lost most of my repertoire. I also finished music school i.e. I got the maximum number of 6 degrees, you can get one every 2 years. I've had lessons in both jazz (from a successful Jazz artist actually) and classical music. About a year ago I went to rehab (physically dependence problem for benzo's and a general lifestyle problem with K and other stuff) and there was a piano there and lots of spare time. I started playing again, an insane amount actually... and not long after I got back home I picked up private lessons and was lucky enough to find a Bach expert.
It's not uncommon for me to play 1 1/2 or 2 hours in a day. About the Goldbergs: I can play 60% of them decently or well; and another 25% badly to half-decent; but perfecting hardly any of them because of the difficulty level. And recently I also picked up a habit of playing those I know in a way or style I never did before, either that or recognizable improvisations of them. Not sure if obvious but that's one of many training methods that improves control and development of feeling for the essence of the piece. Not quite sure how to to explain it but since I've picked up these lessons I'm trying to work on getting a better understanding of classical music in a sense that goes beyond the technical, beyond just practising by repeating it a lot. What I'm talking about is also partially related to the phenomenon of 'being in the "zone" ' in the context of sports. There are peculiar states of mind involved that may work better when you actually think less about it all. There is also a spiritual component but it can get esoteric when you try to talk about it.
I'm not saying I got a lot better at that aspect (although in general things are going well), but nevertheless I find it interesting and during my lesson today I got pretty eye-opening help with playing fugues.
Another thing is that I have perfect pitch and that I can basically play everything that I am able to sing or whistle - depending on the complexity and difficulty in a simplified manner - and optionally added improvisation. And in my early years I was taught using the unusual Suzuki method.

What kind of things are on your repertoire? Am I understanding correctly that your instrument is the piano, as well? Recording piano's is quite the arts in and of itself. Because the thing is just so huge it can be quite hard (esp for us amateurs) to get a proper vantage point that captures the sound well with the right acoustics. Seems like a big challenge to me, fortunately I can use my housemate's digital piano which actually has quite good key suspension / mechanisms.

I've played the piano while tripping, occasionally. A lot of the time I'm spacing out too much or feel either out of it and dissociated or instead overly fixated... anyway apart from the joy of playfully messing around a bit I find the stumbling blocks frustration. There are a few exceptions, mainly one time when I was on mescaline for the first time... during the comeup I had a very cathartic emotional overflow and release after some holotropic rebirth-y stuff laying on the floor. Then I got up to play a nostalgic track (Hot Chocolate / "Put me together again") and re-experienced a lot of memories and emotions extraordinarily vividly.

@kid: :) funny vids - and I think that PAS is psychoactive substance, it follows from or is implied by the context as well as being mentioned right before being abbreviated for the first time.

@ben: Clark is cool, I love Diesel Raven, Rob Lee and this remix of Kuedo.

@johannes: I too am pleased and impressed that you used MDMA in this evidently worthwhile and exemplary way - a report would be great indeed. My first time on LSD was guided by my dad, or in any case he was a sitter for me. And an especially appropriate one as well since he did some acid in his younger days. When I was far into my trip I gave him high quality MDMA crystals which he never had before, but unfortunately it didn't really work out - took a long time to hit, then suddenly he because very confused and scattered, then threw up. After that he claimed the effects died down again which is a little bit strange, apparently like your dad it was hard to spot for him. Though I don't remember seeing symptoms like cuddly behavior or whatever. Peculiar enough he also had very limited effects from nitrous which I didn't know is possible...
Much later after that acid trip of mine we also tripped together namely on half a portion of mushrooms in soup. I say portion because it came from the smartshop. A portion is about 1/8th. Maybe it didn't cool quickly enough, like with tea (either because it is more able to lose heat or is consumed quicker? idk), because it was relatively weak for us even for that dose. But I did remember the proportions of body part sizes were severely fucked up for me. It was not a typical visual for me, because it didn't really breathe or undulate or shift and was rather like conceptual distortion. I guess it was localized micropsia and macropsia.

I wish I had more therapeutic experiences together with my parents, especially with my dad. My mother is plenty open and she works as a sort of welfare work sector in a therapist-like role and there would be little to be gained from tripping with my mother IMO. She has understanding of plenty of things I stand for and has affinity for Zen-buddhism. She's not religious but one of her best friends is a franciscan pater (priest) she frequently joins on franciscan pilgrimage treks to Assisi (Italy). While that obviously is not 100% secular, it's still quite casual - anyway my point is that she gets why I am a bit of a Zen-buddhist if anything, and what the philosophy and metaphysics mean to me. Unlike my father, who only gets the gist matter-of-factly. He suppresses a lot of emotion and often claims that he isn't really suppressing but that he is just phlegmatic. A lot of the time it is quite wonderful and easy to deal with, and I have that trait in a mild form in terms of behavior and in social context, but where my dad deems is mostly unnecessary to contemplate the profound I can be obsessed with it instead which can sometimes be very good and other times quite bad.
It hurts me a little bit that my father is not interested to mystically realize our nature, existentially. There are several ways to express or interpret "you don't know what you are missing." one way is really a bit tragic, and another way is a consolation

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finale? im watching the 6th season 6 episode, 2 more arent out though

I've watched 14 episodes of the 6th season, maybe you are looking in the wrong places... watching on cable in a lagging country, instead of online?

Also, last night I started composing a fugue for the first time and although it needs to be checked for errors, I have about 1 or 1 1/2 minute completed successfully so far. :D
 
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whats up everybody, i've been having such a nice week so far.

just wanted to send some positive vibes out there, life is good :)
 
I've watched 14 episodes of the 6th season, maybe you are looking in the wrong places... watching on cable in a lagging country, instead of online?
I too have watched 14 episodes and that means there's still two to come. S05e14 wasn't the season finale at all, makes no sense cause there's still plenty of storyline that's not been tied up yet. :)
 
Yeah, they split the 5th season in 2 and extended it because AMC was smelling money. Not that we're not done in Albuquerque anyway, there's a spin-off/prequel coming called "Better Call Saul" which has a good chance of sucking but I'll reserve my judgement until I see some footage.

Speaking of good series, just finished Borgen and it's easily in my top 5 now. Gave me a lot more respect for European politics as well, sure the whole world situation sucks but changing that is a very, err, political process. (Only RR and Sol will get this fully: ) Especially GroenLinks and the whole Kunduz debacle, they probably just didn't want the cabinet to fall or maybe got a policy change in return which we didn't hear about. I'm now under the impression their heart was in the right place, which is amazing because I'm a huge sceptic on this sort of thing. That said, American politics is the filthiest thing on the planet. The Chinese may seem worse, but at least they're being open about it.

And nah, Johannes Kreisler, my "stupid years" haven't ended either. I don't really want to end up boring, nor square :)

Luckily the science already seems to overpower the ideology, I feel the 2000s/2010s will go down in history as the psychedelic renaissance as there's so much work being done and there's a lot more flexibility in what people are allowed to do (think of end-of-life therapy in Switzerland, ketamine trials for AD, etc.) Even "non-professional" work by shamans and such is gaining traction in the public eye, and people my age (later teens-early 20s) no longer see psychedelics as dangerous and schizophrenia inducing. Even the anti-drug, drinking types seem to hold their judgement and some even want to try it once. I don't know a lot of new-agey neo-hippies or other types of psych users, and those that I know are huge douchebags, so me having tripped with a wide array of people can attest to that notion.

This will all be good until some counter-culture starts growing and fucks it up for all of us again :p
 
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Borgen is also one of my favourite series of all time. All three seasons were excellent, and since Danish politics is so similar to the Dutch situation, it's very to associate with the characters.

Spin off of Breaking Bad will probably suck indeed, but damn, I'm waiting very impatiently for the last two eps.
 
Hey guys :) Had my first psychedelic experience in close to a year yesterday and it was truly a homecoming. Such a beautiful reminder of life infinite possibilities and wonder. Upon reflection I started a new song today. What do you think so far?

The world is beautiful with the right set of eyes
Infinity in an instant, contained within your mind
open your eyes and feel the life
pulsing within each moment in time
understand that this life of paradox the best you'll find

This is life and it don't get no better than this
This is life, don't forget to live

I ask myself what have I missed
everytime i blink i miss everything
its all just a chess game
a puzzle piece of a monstrous fate
when you realize there's nothing to it
nothing is it all

This is life.....

Thats all I got so far, but its pretty beautiful with music to it... imo ;)

Peace, love and light to all <3
 
Just did a full stint in rehab.
This time i'm done.
No more using or I'll either die or end up living on the street.
I dont want to die or live on the street.
Theres more to life than shooting heroin
 
a wild llama appears

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i hope you are done this time. i don't really know you, but some of stayfaded's posts about you in the lounge make me sad.
 
Been on hydrocodone. Not taking much, enough to feel normal and make moving house less stressful, but by day three returns are diminishing/old tolerance is kicking in. First time using opiates since spring 2012, I think.

Good to hear you guys are doing well.

faggott said:
A fascinating article for any one interested in quantum physics

Woah.
 
Been on hydrocodone. Not taking much, enough to feel normal and make moving house less stressful, but by day three returns are diminishing/old tolerance is kicking in. First time using opiates since spring 2012, I think.

my rule of thumb with opiates is to never use them two days in a row. even alternating days for too long probably is bad, though.
 
somehow opiates seem to hold the record for getting people in trouble/addicted. might be a distortion though, as probably a lot more are hooked on benzos...

llama, i hope you ll have the strength to keep on the right track! cheers!
 
my rule of thumb with opiates is to never use them two days in a row. even alternating days for too long probably is bad, though.
any rule you set for yourself with opiates will probably be broken over time eventually if you keep using.
I set a lot of rules, I didnt even really like heroin at first, I was only doing it because i could tbh.
 
kingme: Though with benzo addiction there's much less noise about relapses and the like. It's the combination of the physical and psychological addiction that make opiates such a problem, or at least from what I understand from reading about others' troubles. You hardly ever hear someone who quit benzos for a long time that they're still craving for the euphoria or whatever. I hardly follow any stigma, especially not with drugs, but I think with opiates it's (at least partially) deserved

But yeah llama, I wouldn't even understand how tough this is, but keep your mind straight and you'll follow through. Doesn't really matter how long it takes, just try to remember the energy you have now when things are tough. Good luck!
 
Damn drug dreams. Dreamt that I got my hands on an entire massive bag full of clean (MDMA) pills and a 10 strip of legitimate LSD. Woke up thinking hell yeah tonight's the night I finally try the drug that's been ever escaping me for a while now, LSD - then had that classic "Awwww shit." moment as it all came back and I remembered it was just a dream.

Regarding opiates, personally I use them 1-3x (usually 1-2x) a week depending on what I have planned and such, and have been doing so for quite a while now. In the past when I used them I'd use a lot more frequently, often a whole week using them daily etc and it just wasn't worth the tolerance build up or the constant swing in and out of withdrawals so I feel I get a lot more from them this way and don't end up with those annoying little cravings all week. :)

Best of luck quitting Llama, you can do it man :)

NeuroDr, nice song, what'd you take?
 
LSDMDMA&11846552 said:
any rule you set for yourself with opiates will probably be broken over time eventually if you keep using.
I set a lot of rules, I didnt even really like heroin at first, I was only doing it because i could tbh.

it probably helps that i've never shot anything up. also, my only connects on pills would stop selling to me if i started using too often. if only more dealers were like that, heh.
 
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