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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

And for me, it was those years between 2006 and 2012 or so, when I was hanging out here a lot and spending my free time playing music and doing psychedelics, with a great sense of wonder about life and Being.
Ah, the golden era. Truly a great time. It's actually really shocking how many of us devolved into serious drug addiction though. But like you, Im as clean as I'll probably ever get (prescribed bupe and self medicating psychedelics 😎)

Glad you got off meth. ❤️
 
With phenethylamines the relationship between stimulation and dose seems non-linear. Sometimes if I can’t “break through” to a psychedelic headspace the experience manifests as a restless energy, and actually taking more rather than less is the remedy for that. Then on the other end of the spectrum there’s the case where you just plain took too much. But in the middle there’s a sweet spot which varies from person to person but tends to be at the high end of the moderate dosage range or the low end of the strong dosage range, just from what I’ve observed in my experience and from tripping with people over the years.

My younger self experienced what you describe very obviously with 2C-I but not really anything else, specifically including cactus, 2C-E, and 2C-D. I didn't really take any of the others at low dose so can't comment on them.

Furthermore, I felt the 2C-E to be legitimately psychedelic at 8 mg, and the stimulation was definitely way stronger than with the 5 mg dose weeks before in which the psychedelic effects were much weaker. I'm guessing next time I'll take it at 10 or 12 mg, and hopefully it doesn't get much worse. Either way, I'll try to be a bit more prepared for it.

Compared to my younger self, my homeostasis may be altered, and I may get stronger stimulation than I used to. I certainly hope not.

I'm thinking I will investigate 2C-I next. I always felt it to be the most stimulating phenethylamine I'd tried, and as I note above, I felt its stimulation strong at much lower doses than much psychedelia. When I was young, I took a 3 mg dose and went to work as a waiter, and I felt it was too much. What will happen when I take it now? I'll soon find out.
 
I just want to clarify. I did find that with most phenethylamines the effects of lower doses are predominantly stimulation versus psychedelia, and as dose is increased, the psychedelic effect increase in intensity faster than the stimulant effect increase, at least to a point. However, I never observed a lessening of stimulation with increased dosage, except possibly with 2C-I, and even then, only in the lower part of its range.

So of course, there might be a sweet spot where the strongest psychedelic effects can be had *relative to* the stimulation or "body load" (for 2C-I and me that was around 16-20 mg), but that doesn't mean stimulation actually decreases at higher doses. Maybe this happens for others, but not me so far. Except perhaps 2C-I in the low part of the range. Does that make sense?
 
i definitely had so much fun looking back researching 2ce . im not the scene right now but i keep hearing 2cb and i also LOVED that. always gave a unique afterglow and so much more gentle. i thought it felt like most 2c's just a pea a trip visuals. 100mg og b years ago and was visually like a lot of L.

maybe china has manymore narcotis otc? but theres way plenty here with the same other problem. Hearing kids like that is really sad just regulate.
 
Things have been a bit rough so I haven't been on much. Have been on Suboxone for about 2 years, switched to kratom for a few months then hopped off for a cold turkey with the help of clonidine and gabapentin. A little over a week in and things are still rough. Out of gabapentin which sucks but have a few days left worth of clonidine. Have to go back to work tomorrow which is stressful but I know it'll do me good to get my body moving. I've basically just been laying in bed for the past week. It sure will feel good to be opioid free having been on them for most of my adult life
 
Well i overdosed on Fentanyl in Patterson, and then two days later i had a heart attack. My first on so it was terrifying. I have covid19, RSV and the flue at the same time that explains alot my symptoms for tge last 5 days, if you noticed.

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But i got discharged from the hospital and went home. Later on sitting on the toilet after taking the trifecta benzo, soma and opioid. Well i woke up 30mins later. I have covid and the flue at the same time that explains alot but im leaving the hospital.
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And i havent taking my lamictal in 4 days and not been sleeping so im completely delirious, just too high to remember. So yeah, not the greatest move i have had made in this life bit im hanging in there anf will keep fighting to live. Me andy girlfriend has been crying and saying gow much we love eachother and saying how special our love is
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Well i overdosed on Fentanyl in Patterson, and then two days later i had a heart attack. My first on so it was terrifying. I have covid19, RSV and the flue at the same time that explains alot my symptoms for tge last 5 days, if you noticed.

Dude! If you are dependent, do what you must to maintain it. Otherwise, stop using anything that may inhibit the immune system, which is probably most stuff including opiates.

COVID is nasty. It can damage your brain, heart, blood vessels, and immune T-cells. The shots don't help much except to reduce your chance of going to the hospital or dying *from acute illness*. They do little to protect against long-term damage, which itself is more likely to ruin your life or kill you anyway. COVID likely facilitated your contraction of flu and RSV together due to its immune weakening effects. Make sure you're getting good nutrition, particularly vitamin D and zinc. Rest and sleep where you can. You need your immune system to be as strong as possible to fight everything off, especially the Sars2 which is harder to beat and does more damage. If you or your girlfriend does some research, you can discover other possible pharmaceutical interventions though they are less likely to help this late in the progression. I wish you the best man!

To the rest of you, I want you to understand I've been through hell "living with" long COVID for over three years now. I wouldn't be here without the gracious support of my wife, and I feel damn lucky I am healthy enough now to trip again, even though it still feels dicey. Because evidence suggests my symptoms will likely worsen if I catch COVID again, my wife and I have to take extreme precautions. We don't eat inside at restaurants any more. We wear well-fitting N95s everywhere in public. Our social lives are close to non-existant. I don't know if this will ever end, but I can't take the chance because long COVID is fucking debilitating. None of you should take the chance either. Available data (e.g. VA records) suggest risks of long COVID and bad outcomes in general increase with reinfections. Maybe this trend will reverse with time, but who knows? Meanwhile, the virus continues to evolve and "the experts" continue to act puzzled as life expectancy continues to plummet, school absences continue to be sky high, the labor market continues to be tight despite the Fed trying desperately to get everyone laid off by raising rates, and everyone everywhere wonders why the service always sucks so bad. We're living the zombie apocalypse. For real! In case you were wondering what it would be like.

I can state with enthusiasm that with regard to drug use, this forum understands harm reduction far better than any of the fuck wits who run the WHO, CDC, or the various hospitals (who are probably the worst of the worst!). There are a multitude of things that can be done to control this disease and many others that cause unnecessary suffering and death, and pretty much all of them have only ever been done half-heartedly if at all. Even our vaccines suck compared to what's possible, but the authorities who fucked up in year one opted not to learn from their mistakes and opted instead to try to "cancel" the pandemic instead, and so here we are. So don your N95s, or if you're really hardcore, your "Darth Vader" P100s and embrace the new cyberpunk age.
 
Well i overdosed on Fentanyl in Patterson, and then two days later i had a heart attack. My first on so it was terrifying. I have covid19, RSV and the flue at the same time that explains alot my symptoms for tge last 5 days, if you noticed.

IMG-20231026-194849366-BURST001.jpg


But i got discharged from the hospital and went home. Later on sitting on the toilet after taking the trifecta benzo, soma and opioid. Well i woke up 30mins later. I have covid and the flue at the same time that explains alot but im leaving the hospital.
1152396001290179561698374705766.png


And i havent taking my lamictal in 4 days and not been sleeping so im completely delirious, just too high to remember. So yeah, not the greatest move i have had made in this life bit im hanging in there anf will keep fighting to live. Me andy girlfriend has been crying and saying gow much we love eachother and saying how special our love is
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why the fuck were you discharged, were you not paying enough :mad:
 
Well i overdosed on Fentanyl in Patterson, and then two days later i had a heart attack. My first on so it was terrifying.
Only thing I can say is take care of your health CC. You are getting messages from the universe. It is an odd situation because we love you. But we hate being cops. Most of us never want to tell anyone what to do. But if someone were drinking too much and having issues it is logical to make a move to back off. That is how our minds work.

So my advice is come back to consensus reality and swim here for a while. Let your cooking be your altered state for now. Play pool, take your girl out for a meal and a movie drug free. There is plenty of time to soar the astral plane. But focus here in consensus reality is almost the pact you made with yourself. Drugs are fine, they can be used for escape or knowledge. When it becomes dangerous some changes need to be made. So I would pamper yourself, in a way without drugs as to heal the mind and body a bit.

That is all, I can't be a cop. But I can try and be caring. And I know you can take it.

Me? I am too sober for a Friday morning. May smoke some weed early today. But I do feel like escaping the crap days that have been happening so I totally get it. Real heroin would be nice but not available. So lighter stuff. (who would think just regular heroin was a safer option these days?)
 
Damn @cosmic charlie , please take care of yourself. This is the 2nd OD this year. You need to start valuing your life more than a buzz.
Jack gave some good advice and I believe you’re fully capable of it.

PCP and it’s analogues are very insidious. They start changing who you are on a visceral level. They’re my favorite drugs so I know how you feel about them. But they must be used with respect. Which I’m unable to do so I just try to stay away. Last time I got a gram of 3 ho pcp I used it every day till it was gone. I definitely did and said some things I now regret and wouldn’t have done otherwise. It’s very easy to make bad decisions while high on PCP drugs, especially combined with benzos. I blame those two classes of drugs for my ex wife’s fatal OD. I don’t want to see you go out the same way.

I’m on day 27 of complete sobriety. Last year I did sober October for the first time and found it very rewarding. In the following year I’ve taken several month long breaks. This time I’m shooting for two months. After the first week or two of being uncomfortable you come out on the other side refreshed. The mental clarity becomes a buzz of its own.
This time I’ve given up weed, alcohol and Kratom. I’m going harder in the gym and am in the best shape of my life as I’m inching closer and closer to 40. Sobriety can be pretty kick ass.
 
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Living too fast Charlesman, chill out for a sec eh, you can't be on the edge all of the time, not even you bro.

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This is my cat, Flodder, I believe she's quite happy. Getting a little chubby maybe, she definitely likes eating, much more than her brother. And since we have two cats it's not that easy to find a solution for it. Maybe some sort of feeding machine based on the chip... There'll be tons and tons of protesting =D
 
RIP Charlie
 
RIP Charlie
Oh fucking no. RIP brother, you will be so incredibly missed here ❤️
 
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