🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

[swilow]

Tripped my tits off yesterday

 

[cosmic charlie]

My disso collection is officially gone for now and i will be taking the next month or two off from the stuff. Feels good honestly knowing that i cant be tempted anymore. When we move into the new house im deff gonna have to get some kinda hardcore time lock safe.

Cant let myself go off the rails like this ever again, id binged for like about 14 months or so which is just nutty and so bad for you. Time to put my health first and make better decisions towards my future.

Thankfully i got thru this without getting into trouble again for a blackout or something. Things are gonna be good guys, im feeling very positive.

 

[Vastness]

LOL, I was just thinking about you @cosmic charlie, not like abstractly weirdly in general but just before I ventured into this particular thread to see what was happening ... but basically about how I have generally envied your apparent ability to do dissociatives constantly while still remaining a generally functional person. Dissociatives are somehow just corrosive to something important to me, I'm currently on another self-enforced stretch of vague "sobriety" but actually I've just found myself drinking a bunch of beer and occasionally vaping those fucking awful disposable nicotine vape thingies that are everywhere. So I guess just abstinence from less socially acceptable intoxicants.

Man... I just found out in the last few weeks that a dude who I vaguely spoke about in this thread about 3 years ago - actually not this exact thread but I guess a pinned thread at the time - in the context of a xanax-instigated heroic 4-HO-MET dose during a weekend of cathinones, arylcychlohexylamines, and the old stalwarts of beer and weed oh yeah and actually some MDMA at the end I just remembered, anyway I remember talking about how he really did not seem to have a good time and I hadn't really heard from him since but apparently that was basically because he deliberately killed himself somehow that same year. Although actually the exact time and circumstances are a little unclear and seems to be not possible to find out but surely within months of that weekend. Kindly puts a different spin on my remembered general sense of suppressed annoyance about him not sufficiently entertaining me, but just projectile vomiting in inconvenient places, at least twice, which is unfortunately one of my more vivid memories of our last interactions. Apparently though the correlation between probable bad trip and suicide might not be quite as close as I imagined when I first heard this, as my other friend I heard it from who was at school with me and this other dude was kinda skeptical about there being any connection, and said that apparently he did just randomly start showing up and then disappearing for a while with a bunch of people we used to know during the couple of months before apparently he decided to check out - and before that none of us had really heard from him for years - so I guess retrospectively he was going through something... although, it does seem extremely likely that I was the only one to feed him a bunch of synthetic hallucinogens during that time which is a little troubling in a way I'm not sure exactly what to make of, I think.

Oh yeah so I was gonna say also that I had to stop doing dissociatives for a while after a fairly chaotic period a few months ago where the only objectively notable thing that actually happened - although this is kinda notable, to me - is that during the long weird tail of a DCK "trip" - during which I'm pretty sure I actually went and wandered around outside for a while and I remember thinking I'd somehow discovered some kind of human trafficking operation going on in my flat - I mean I didn't know it was my flat at the time obviously but somehow I'd just chanced on it - and fortunately I somehow wandered BACK IN to my open front door after just wandering around in the middle of the night for who knows how long thinking I was at some festival or something, christ, anyway so yeah the next day probably I ended up taking some kind of stimulant and I started to think I could hear voices coming through the ceiling, and SPECIFICALLY that it was my neighbours talking about stuff I was doing, like if I moved something they'd just hear it and talk about it. Actually the voices weren't ones that belonged to my upstairs neighbour who is the only neighbour I ever really vaguely hear, even if not to the point of being able to hear actual conversation, but they were the voices of some kind of gang, who had come to, I dunno, rob ME specifically or something... So anyway knowing that this entire scenario was just WAY TOO stereotypically psychotic to be real, I STILL convinced myself that I would just feel better if I JUST went to check, like, knock on the door, "hey I heard some noises thought I'd check everything is OK?"... Christ this is embarrassing to type out but I think the chances of it mattering are low.. anyway that would already just be super fucking strange because my neighbours and I don't really talk or knock on each other's doors ever, we get on fine and say hey but yeah, that would be weird on it's own. It would be even weirder given the fact that before I confabulated this stupid fucking gangster kidnap/robbery scenario or whatever it was I started to think there was someone else like digging around under the floorboards or something and I'm fairly certain I shouted some vague threats that might've been heard, so if there were weird noises going anywhere it was in the other direction. ANYWAY, so I go and knock on my upstairs neighbour's door like an absolute psychopath and... no answer! And THEN I just decide to completely ad-lib my own plans and I ALSO knock on THEIR neighbour, and one other person's door as well... But... no one answers!

So I do some kinda insane lap of my building thinking I'm being like stealthy just scoping out the place but probably looking like someone thinking about committing some crime myself and then just go back to my place... so nothing that bad really happened and actually... given it was like 11 AM or something on an otherwise normal Thursday the only sensible conclusion I can reach is that actually, probably, insanely fortunately, no-one was even in... so these voices were just absolute hallucinations.

I thought about whether it's possible that my neighbours were hiding from me but... that's just not really plausible I don't think, even in my vaguely dissociated definite-dopamine-psychosis state I'm certain I wasn't like causing chaos apart from some random shouts that might've been kinda concerning but the noise transmission between flats is not sufficient I think for my garbling to actually cause that kind of alarm... So I gotta conclude that I just totally got away with a completely deranged decision to potentially impose some of my own self-generated lunacy on the wider world. At least, I'm gonna just believe that forever because other explanations are too harrowing to contemplate. But yeah so after that and coming down a bit it seemed apparent I needed to abstain from highly reality altering substances for a while. Oh, I did also speak to a couple of people on the phone about my insane thoughts that I needed to somehow go and check on my neighbours and try to singlehandedly thwart some kind of organised crime invasion - although maybe I didn't describe it quite like that - and also tried to have an inappropriately and unnecessarily intense conversation with my pregnant friend about my ex while she was basically in hospital waiting to give birth at some point which was intensely embarrassing to realise afterwards. Strangely or fortunately or, I dunno, as it happened though she was the only person who seemed to have some kind of insight that I was even altered when I got to the point of feeling like I needed to confess to generally safe people about my general insanity and apologise to her specifically, and she also seemed generally not that concerned - which obviously makes sense because she had more important things going on, but also the general lack of wider insight to the fact that I was experiencing some kind of psychosis makes me think that either I'm just a lot stranger in everyday interactions than I think I am or that, more compassionately, maybe nothing that happened was really even that bad, but god damn that was pretty worrying after-the-fact.

Urgh, I'm a little drunk which is probably the reason I just confessed to all that, I thought I came back in this thread to say something about how I felt a bit more sane several years ago when I was here more often and doing a lot more drugs... maybe that's still somewhat true, anyway hope y'all are doing good, as ever.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Documentary about 3-MMC just came out, its a hell of a drug but i wouldnt agree with the no comedown part. Sure it isnt as bad as some of the other Cathinones but its absolutely there especially if you binge for a day or so. When it first hit the seen like 10yrs ago i got a batch from europe that was like big clearish rocks and so fucking pure. It was just as good as Mephedrone honestly. The batches i got later on were never on that level...

I watched that and it reminded me that I've still not gotten around to trying the 3-mmc i have access to. It sounds like a lot more compulsive drug than I realized, not my normal kind of jam but still want to give it a spin. I'm not too worried about getting caught up in it, I'm usually that last person to want to redose. For anyone who's tried it, how does it compare to mdma in terms of duration and strength/mg? I'm thinking I might try it out at 50mg first to go real light and get a sense for it's flavour.

I heard about a psychedelic therapist doing sessions with it years ago, the guy I talked to found it really helpful for working out some relationship problems he'd been having. I'd intend to use it for more recreational purposes like dancing.

 

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[cosmic charlie]

I watched that and it reminded me that I've still not gotten around to trying the 3-mmc i have access to. It sounds like a lot more compulsive drug than I realized, not my normal kind of jam but still want to give it a spin. I'm not too worried about getting caught up in it, I'm usually that last person to want to redose. For anyone who's tried it, how does it compare to mdma in terms of duration and strength/mg? I'm thinking I might try it out at 50mg first to go real light and get a sense for it's flavour.

I heard about a psychedelic therapist doing sessions with it years ago, the guy I talked to found it really helpful for working out some relationship problems he'd been having. I'd intend to use it for more recreational purposes like dancing.

Your gonna need more than that to give it a fair shake if we are talking oral doses, id take like 125-150mgs or so personally. But if your gonna sniff it you could do a small line like that sure, but honestly when i do 3-MMC or 4-MMC i wanna really feel it and will sniff around 100mgs for my intial dose if im going that ROA. Pretty much i will do a gram over the course of a day and then not touch the stuff again for awhile.

Used to take a benzo or some heroin to comedown, it was lovely. It has a shorter duration than MDMA for me and the potency is different cuz with this you can keep redosing without the same drastic consequence of doing so all night with MDMA. You could die if you do a gram of MDMA for example.

 

[Xorkoth]

LOL, I was just thinking about you @cosmic charlie, not like abstractly weirdly in general but just before I ventured into this particular thread to see what was happening ... but basically about how I have generally envied your apparent ability to do dissociatives constantly while still remaining a generally functional person. Dissociatives are somehow just corrosive to something important to me, I'm currently on another self-enforced stretch of vague "sobriety" but actually I've just found myself drinking a bunch of beer and occasionally vaping those fucking awful disposable nicotine vape thingies that are everywhere. So I guess just abstinence from less socially acceptable intoxicants.

Man... I just found out in the last few weeks that a dude who I vaguely spoke about in this thread about 3 years ago - actually not this exact thread but I guess a pinned thread at the time - in the context of a xanax-instigated heroic 4-HO-MET dose during a weekend of cathinones, arylcychlohexylamines, and the old stalwarts of beer and weed oh yeah and actually some MDMA at the end I just remembered, anyway I remember talking about how he really did not seem to have a good time and I hadn't really heard from him since but apparently that was basically because he deliberately killed himself somehow that same year. Although actually the exact time and circumstances are a little unclear and seems to be not possible to find out but surely within months of that weekend. Kindly puts a different spin on my remembered general sense of suppressed annoyance about him not sufficiently entertaining me, but just projectile vomiting in inconvenient places, at least twice, which is unfortunately one of my more vivid memories of our last interactions. Apparently though the correlation between probable bad trip and suicide might not be quite as close as I imagined when I first heard this, as my other friend I heard it from who was at school with me and this other dude was kinda skeptical about there being any connection, and said that apparently he did just randomly start showing up and then disappearing for a while with a bunch of people we used to know during the couple of months before apparently he decided to check out - and before that none of us had really heard from him for years - so I guess retrospectively he was going through something... although, it does seem extremely likely that I was the only one to feed him a bunch of synthetic hallucinogens during that time which is a little troubling in a way I'm not sure exactly what to make of, I think.

Oh yeah so I was gonna say also that I had to stop doing dissociatives for a while after a fairly chaotic period a few months ago where the only objectively notable thing that actually happened - although this is kinda notable, to me - is that during the long weird tail of a DCK "trip" - during which I'm pretty sure I actually went and wandered around outside for a while and I remember thinking I'd somehow discovered some kind of human trafficking operation going on in my flat - I mean I didn't know it was my flat at the time obviously but somehow I'd just chanced on it - and fortunately I somehow wandered BACK IN to my open front door after just wandering around in the middle of the night for who knows how long thinking I was at some festival or something, christ, anyway so yeah the next day probably I ended up taking some kind of stimulant and I started to think I could hear voices coming through the ceiling, and SPECIFICALLY that it was my neighbours talking about stuff I was doing, like if I moved something they'd just hear it and talk about it. Actually the voices weren't ones that belonged to my upstairs neighbour who is the only neighbour I ever really vaguely hear, even if not to the point of being able to hear actual conversation, but they were the voices of some kind of gang, who had come to, I dunno, rob ME specifically or something... So anyway knowing that this entire scenario was just WAY TOO stereotypically psychotic to be real, I STILL convinced myself that I would just feel better if I JUST went to check, like, knock on the door, "hey I heard some noises thought I'd check everything is OK?"... Christ this is embarrassing to type out but I think the chances of it mattering are low.. anyway that would already just be super fucking strange because my neighbours and I don't really talk or knock on each other's doors ever, we get on fine and say hey but yeah, that would be weird on it's own. It would be even weirder given the fact that before I confabulated this stupid fucking gangster kidnap/robbery scenario or whatever it was I started to think there was someone else like digging around under the floorboards or something and I'm fairly certain I shouted some vague threats that might've been heard, so if there were weird noises going anywhere it was in the other direction. ANYWAY, so I go and knock on my upstairs neighbour's door like an absolute psychopath and... no answer! And THEN I just decide to completely ad-lib my own plans and I ALSO knock on THEIR neighbour, and one other person's door as well... But... no one answers!

So I do some kinda insane lap of my building thinking I'm being like stealthy just scoping out the place but probably looking like someone thinking about committing some crime myself and then just go back to my place... so nothing that bad really happened and actually... given it was like 11 AM or something on an otherwise normal Thursday the only sensible conclusion I can reach is that actually, probably, insanely fortunately, no-one was even in... so these voices were just absolute hallucinations.

I thought about whether it's possible that my neighbours were hiding from me but... that's just not really plausible I don't think, even in my vaguely dissociated definite-dopamine-psychosis state I'm certain I wasn't like causing chaos apart from some random shouts that might've been kinda concerning but the noise transmission between flats is not sufficient I think for my garbling to actually cause that kind of alarm... So I gotta conclude that I just totally got away with a completely deranged decision to potentially impose some of my own self-generated lunacy on the wider world. At least, I'm gonna just believe that forever because other explanations are too harrowing to contemplate. But yeah so after that and coming down a bit it seemed apparent I needed to abstain from highly reality altering substances for a while. Oh, I did also speak to a couple of people on the phone about my insane thoughts that I needed to somehow go and check on my neighbours and try to singlehandedly thwart some kind of organised crime invasion - although maybe I didn't describe it quite like that - and also tried to have an inappropriately and unnecessarily intense conversation with my pregnant friend about my ex while she was basically in hospital waiting to give birth at some point which was intensely embarrassing to realise afterwards. Strangely or fortunately or, I dunno, as it happened though she was the only person who seemed to have some kind of insight that I was even altered when I got to the point of feeling like I needed to confess to generally safe people about my general insanity and apologise to her specifically, and she also seemed generally not that concerned - which obviously makes sense because she had more important things going on, but also the general lack of wider insight to the fact that I was experiencing some kind of psychosis makes me think that either I'm just a lot stranger in everyday interactions than I think I am or that, more compassionately, maybe nothing that happened was really even that bad, but god damn that was pretty worrying after-the-fact.

Urgh, I'm a little drunk which is probably the reason I just confessed to all that, I thought I came back in this thread to say something about how I felt a bit more sane several years ago when I was here more often and doing a lot more drugs... maybe that's still somewhat true, anyway hope y'all are doing good, as ever.

Hey Vastness, long time no see. I gotta say, that is indeed some absolutely classic stimulant psychosis stuff right there. As soon as you start believing someone is digging under the floorboards, you know it's time to stop believing all the thoughts in your head.

 

[Img_9999]

I watched that and it reminded me that I've still not gotten around to trying the 3-mmc i have access to. It sounds like a lot more compulsive drug than I realized, not my normal kind of jam but still want to give it a spin. I'm not too worried about getting caught up in it, I'm usually that last person to want to redose. For anyone who's tried it, how does it compare to mdma in terms of duration and strength/mg? I'm thinking I might try it out at 50mg first to go real light and get a sense for it's flavour.

I heard about a psychedelic therapist doing sessions with it years ago, the guy I talked to found it really helpful for working out some relationship problems he'd been having. I'd intend to use it for more recreational purposes like dancing.

For some reason the video is not available where I am. It shows as a "private" video and I can't see it.
I would say 3-MMC is shorter acting, and it feels more stimmy than MDMA. It's awesome though, I love it. I feel you won't get much from 50 mg, I need 80 mg at least to get a feel of its character. I usually took 150 and two hours later a 50 mg boost. Most I took at once was 180 I think. It's a great party drug, awesome for dancing. I don't find if very compulsive at all, but I know It's an issue for some people.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Yeah im sure many people could control themselves with it just fine, but my damn drug addict brain just becomes so compulsive with drugs that have that side of the coin. It honestly why im gonna just primarily stick to the psychs pretty much cuz of the anti-addictive nature they have to a degree.

Sure i would love to have some 3-MMC or 4-MMC around for a brief binge but i just feel like its all that healthy for me to be hammering stims at this age. Honestly the MDMA is gonna be about as far as i go, and mainly cuz redosing works so shitty after the intial boost i know its not worth and can control myself.

Honestly i envy people that have the iron will with drugs like my girlfriend does, its something i sadly lack. But lets say i bought a single gram with the intention to share with my girlfriend that night maybe that could work out fine.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Honestly i envy people that have the iron will with drugs like my girlfriend does, its something i sadly lack. But lets say i bought a single gram with the intention to share with my girlfriend that night maybe that could work out fine.

I think it's not so much iron-will for a lot of people as some kind of defence mechanism that kicks in making the drug completely unappetizing.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

3-MMC & 4-MMC were more fiendish for me than anything else, ridiculous. 3-MMC was arguably even worse. Grams & grams...
Honestly can't really recommend the drug, fun but not much there and it soon gets miserable.

 

[Img_9999]

I guess the issue is in part the short duration? Like if you are out for a night and you take some 3-MMC but then two hours later you already start coming down it makes sense to want to redose. But I usually used it precisely when I didn't intend to stay out all night or party for 8 hours straight or something haha. I was usually ok with one redose around two hours or two and a half hours after the first one. That usually kept me going for a good 5 hours counting from the initial dose. I remember taking little bumps of MXE or ketamine when the second dose started fading, so arround 4/5 hours since the inital dose, and reaching a very blissful state. Had a lot of fun with it, I loved the stuff. Still never took more than a single redose, but I think stims in general are not very compulsive for me.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Going to be quitting vaping nicotine now and im honestly even more worried about that than the dissos. Im so horribly i addicted ive been hitting the damn thing every 10mins like maybe two times for a couple years straight at this point. Stopping a couple times for short periods for the same reason i am now.

For whatever reason vaping starts to give me this excruciating headache after awhile that just never goes away until i quit vaping. And like the crazy asshole i am after a month of feeling better i will slowly start doing it again. But honestly this time i truly need to be done with using this stuff habitually.

Ive only hit it a couple times when i woke up and im showing more restraint. Im gonna leave it at home when i goto work so i dont have it around all night. Honestly if this headache doesnt stop i wont even be able to trip with my girl tommorow. And i deff wont be doing that MDMA until i am in tip top shape you know.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Going to be quitting vaping nicotine now and im honestly even more worried about that than the dissos. Im so horribly i addicted ive been hitting the damn thing every 10mins like maybe two times for a couple years straight at this point. Stopping a couple times for short periods for the same reason i am now.

For whatever reason vaping starts to give me this excruciating headache after awhile that just never goes away until i quit vaping. And like the crazy asshole i am after a month of feeling better i will slowly start doing it again. But honestly this time i truly need to be done with using this stuff habitually.

Ive only hit it a couple times when i woke up and im showing more restraint. Im gonna leave it at home when i goto work so i dont have it around all night. Honestly if this headache doesnt stop i wont even be able to trip with my girl tommorow. And i deff wont be doing that MDMA until i am in tip top shape you know.

Goo luck dude, got a big nicotine addiction myself bro, quit cigs but I get more nicotine in me for sure these days.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

This year I lost my identity, I lost my soul in the pursuit of work. for the last 9 years Have been abused by a narcist that i never told anybody about.

It might be two months before I can trip again to find some divine love and healing.

Tired of life, but still want to keep fighting on. Wish I could escape and just rest.

I need to find a way to reset my life and mental state and start fresh next year. All the joy was sucked out of it for the last so many years.

 

[Vastness]

Bluelight is looking absolutely wild right now I gotta say

 

[cosmic charlie]

Goo luck dude, got a big nicotine addiction myself bro, quit cigs but I get more nicotine in me for sure these days.

Yeah man the amount of actual nicotine these vapes allow you to consume is bonkers. I just opened my last disposable vape i have right now and im gonna try and taper off the best i can. Im absolutely not buying anymore. Im completely broke until i get paid anyways i just went to the foodstore and spent the last of my money. And i just cant keep wasting cash on these things.

Im about to get four grams of MDMA im thinking next week, cuz i had so much fun rolling let me tell you. And i just really wanna have a nice stash of that i can dip into once in awhile. Sure i have that aMT but im really not trying to use it up if i can help it. And that MDMA felt so euphoric, honestly i cant wait to drop that 205mgs that i have left. Im gonna wait like a month and take it all at once orally.

Im never sniffing MDMA again that shit fucked up my nose proper, but i have to say i love how fast the redose hits when you do it that way. But i mean gotta be patient i suppose. Maybe what im gonna do next time is take 100ugs of LSD and the 205mgs of MDMA togther, ive never candy flipped before. How do you suppose i should time them?

 

[porkstock]

Damn Charlie, Cloud Cult?!
I've never seen anyone mention this band before. This is probably my favorite of theirs

 

[porkstock]

feeling the Pixies right now after seeing them live for the first time since I was a fan 30 years ago.

Did modest mouse open for them? I know they were just touring together. I like the pixies alright but MM is one of my all time favorites.

I once met the old drummer's parents on an Alaskan cruise. At one of the stops I ate some LSD and listened to modest mouse on my headphones..walking around with my brother we ran into the parents again and my brother said "he's listening to them right now!" Was pretty funny at the time but not the greatest story I am now realizing haha

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah man the amount of actual nicotine these vapes allow you to consume is bonkers. I just opened my last disposable vape i have right now and im gonna try and taper off the best i can. Im absolutely not buying anymore. Im completely broke until i get paid anyways i just went to the foodstore and spent the last of my money. And i just cant keep wasting cash on these things.

Good idea man... though I gotta say, anyone who does vape, disposables are the most gargantuan waste of money. You can get a decent reusable battery for $20-30, and the pods need replacing from time to time but they're just a few dollars, and a bottle of very high quality nic salts vape juice runs $16-20, or the cheap shit for quite a bit less. It's insanely cheaper than buying disposables. My friend was telling me he spends like $80 a week on disposables. When I told him I spend like $10 a week, and that's with top of the line juice and hitting it a lot, he was flabbergasted.

But you should quit, it's a shitty drug.