☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Somatic Swirly Sepia Summer Sausage Stage Set Suppository

[xammy]

only 3 workdays left, this summer has really flown by!

 

[vortech]

If you like music production, Linux is the worst OS for it. All the best software available is commercially sold as a product, DAWs/Traktor/etc are usually unsupported by Linux and instead only supported on Windows/OSX. I love Linux for server and development + I like navigating via command-line, but for anything outside that your going to hit massive obstacles.

I have learned this unfortunate fact the last few days. On the upside I have not had significant issues this past week. I went through all my files and removed instances of plugins that I suspected could have been culprits, and I bounced down to wave files all of the synth tracks and effect instances that were necessary to the songs before deleting. Another benefit of bouncing to wave is a different element of possibilities for sculpting the sound at the last stages of production. Full-steam ahead!

 

[swilow]

I thought he was talking about drugs and if I should hit report (I was quite tired and now I don't think he was, if anything because he's too young, but shit maybe he was?) but yeah beekeeping does sound like it would be pretty chill. I was watching not too long ago a film or episode whose name I cannot recall in which a beekeeper (a woman with some sort of sophistication) expressed similar sentiments, the bee in micro and macro context. The bees were somewhat plot relevant, they were being harmed by nuclear experiments ca WW2 (is this the poison gas episode of Foyle's War? or an episode of Manhattan? …

… both set in the same era, both look pretty good, I am a big fan of period pieces and the sets, props, hair, etc. are huge for me, but the first tends to stick with history or plausible enough personalities, trends, and events within; whereas the second is so full of infuriating anachronism and blunders I couldn't take it, not on a Washington's Spies or Abraham Lincoln Zombie Killer level, but was unwatchable for me on that account, not to mention the very unsubtle inserts of modern political and social concerns to the era in question, which is much, much subtler and actually not really anachronistic in Foyle, although the not very good Palestine episode got me pissed off pretty good (obiter: the very pretty Amber Rose Revah isn't Jewish, but can apparently be given any ethnicity to play and pull it off; actually it's pretty amazing, Google it) but anyway for balance on 1948, please view the beautiful and incredibly brave miniseries (or long form film, really) The Promise by Peter Kosminsky^*—a lesson to be drawn is that our cousins across the pond do these things a hell of a lot better.)

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^* Watch it. Put it ahead of your queue or whatever. The best treatment of 1947-1948 on film and better than most that you will find in print or anywhere else and so balanced that it got him ostracized by and death threats from his own people.

I like the organic Joycean evolution of your post SKL I shall investigate this moving picture you suggest.

 

[Solipsis]

Computer 'perception' is so psychedelic!!

https://youtu.be/uSUOdu_5MPc?t=11m30s (although I recommend watching the whole thing)

 

[SKL]

I like the organic Joycean evolution of your post SKL

Thanks! Was more or less what I was going for (here and elsewhere when the mood strikes.)

I shall investigate this moving picture you suggest.

Really, do, everyone. It is brilliantly done even devoid of political-historical context and all the more so considering it; and as such is perhaps one of the braver artistic efforts in the medium I can think of as of late.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I've realized relatively recently that I have a strange pet-peave while tripping; that is, when someone, particularly who is not tripping, asks me about my trip (i.e. "How's your trip going man," or "What are you seeing, can you describe it?") I get very angry with them. They can't help it, they don't trip, they don't know any better... it's just that the psychedelic experience is inherently outside of the realm of the English language and I have absolutely nothing to tell them. Not to mention that I feel like a trip is neither negative nor positive, it simply is, and people really can't understand that it would seem. It frustrates me to no end. It makes me wana shove a bunch of acid down their throat and say, "How's your trip man!? Good or bad!? Tell me alllll about it. Are you living a nightmare?! Nightmare nightmare nightmare!!!!" and then force them to watch this strange Frenchman proceed to disturb the shit out of them.

(Not that I'd actually force acid on someone, for the record)

Spoiler: Olivier de Sagazan

The link has some sort of playback issues going on so y'all will have to follow the link if you wana see that vid.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

I thought he was talking about drugs and if I should hit report (I was quite tired and now I don't think he was, if anything because he's too young, but shit maybe he was?) but yeah beekeeping does sound like it would be pretty chill. I was watching not too long ago a film or episode whose name I cannot recall in which a beekeeper (a woman with some sort of sophistication) expressed similar sentiments, the bee in micro and macro context. The bees were somewhat plot relevant, they were being harmed by nuclear experiments ca WW2 (is this the poison gas episode of Foyle's War? or an episode of Manhattan? …

… both set in the same era, both look pretty good, I am a big fan of period pieces and the sets, props, hair, etc. are huge for me, but the first tends to stick with history or plausible enough personalities, trends, and events within; whereas the second is so full of infuriating anachronism and blunders I couldn't take it, not on a Washington's Spies or Abraham Lincoln Zombie Killer level, but was unwatchable for me on that account, not to mention the very unsubtle inserts of modern political and social concerns to the era in question, which is much, much subtler and actually not really anachronistic in Foyle, although the not very good Palestine episode got me pissed off pretty good (obiter: the very pretty Amber Rose Revah isn't Jewish, but can apparently be given any ethnicity to play and pull it off; actually it's pretty amazing, Google it) but anyway for balance on 1948, please view the beautiful and incredibly brave miniseries (or long form film, really) The Promise by Peter Kosminsky^*—a lesson to be drawn is that our cousins across the pond do these things a hell of a lot better.)

______________
^* Watch it. Put it ahead of your queue or whatever. The best treatment of 1947-1948 on film and better than most that you will find in print or anywhere else and so balanced that it got him ostracized by and death threats from his own people.

i was discussing actual bees
not the other thing youre referencing.

 

[Crashing]

Dear Bluelight Diary,

Took an LSD + DXE combo on a crazy desolate beach with my girl the other day. It's so easy to forget what a beast LSD really is. It's like soul lightening. I'm still melting away in the wake of sheer astonishment. I could elaborate for days on how amazing and therapeutic this trip was.. I really feel that these nature based psychedelic trips are one of life's greatest offerings. Can't imagine a life without them. It's incredible to be blown away time and time again by a tiny piece of paper.

 

[SKL]

I've realized relatively recently that I have a strange pet-peave while tripping; that is, when someone, particularly who is not tripping, asks me about my trip]

Spoiler: Olivier de Sagazan

The link has some sort of playback issues going on so y'all will have to follow the link if you wana see that vid.

Very rude thing to do indeed. And Samsara along with Baraka etc. sure has some weird and beautiful and weirdly beautiful and beautifully weirdly disturbing material; although what the fuck is supposed to be going on supra i can't tell you except just generic edgy anticorporate anti-suit-wearing sentiment?

i was discussing actual bees
not the other thing youre referencing.

I know.

BTW does anyone remember the "bee" 2C-B pills, put out by the same organization that put out the lolirony "blue star acid?" The former were kinda underpowered, not in the least because it was 2CB HBr not HCl but also because they used PiHKaL doses which are inadequate, presumably because the Shulgin were sensitive to the drug (and rather overrated it, too, if you asked me), but very cool in concept although I needed to take at least 3 or 4 (18mg 2C-B HBr iirc) but on the other hand I'm an unusual hard-head to this particular subfamily of drugs. The latter, OTOH, were fire. If you missed them, you missed a good thing, babe. I even had some up until fairly recently, think I gave them to some hippie chick I was trying to chat up or something, not being interested in acid these days (or, actually, in hippie chicks, so I don't know what I was doing. Alcohol.) I would quite like to get my hands on some of the 4- and 5-substituted asymmetrical-T's, viz. 4-AcO/HO-MiPT, 5-MeO-MiPT, and I think this;

4-acetoxy-propylisopropyl-T (4-AcO-PiPT)

Seems appealing. I don't think anyone has ever made it though. I'd expect it to be relatively low potency but very psychedelic and longer lasting than 4-e-MiPT, but that's just to hazard a guess. Does China have an isomer clause? I know they don't, or didn't, have an ester clause … too bad all the R&D in the industry is mostly directed at godawful shit, with the possible exception of the lysergamides, but from what I am given to understand there's substantial differences in response from subject to subject and the better ones would be unlikely to be distinguishable under placebo conditions, so unless they can be had cheaply on the gram level, who cares? They presumably can to someone, and if I were that someone, I would be laying, not talking. And probably only a few of the Chinamen care to go there when there's so much profit in simpler drugs. Unless they can get away with $5k+ for a gram of whatever-lysergawhat. I know that at retail they're pretty expensive at least from what I'm told, and real acid is always plentiful, so why bother? If I were to start doing psychedelics again I want new Shulginalia and semi-Shulginalia.

 

[Kittycat5]

What makes you want those over LSD?

 

[SKL]

I've done more than a lifetime's worth of acid; and it has some weird associations for me and I dunno, my psyche may not be ready for it. But as I was saying somewhere else some of these more specialized drugs have their own special virtues and are often more manageable due probably to being less receptor–promiscuous than LSD, which also makes it less expansive an experience perhaps; but still very interesting and fun in and of themselves. 2C-D, 2C-T-7 and -21, 5-MeO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DiPT and -MiPT, 4-HO/AcO-MiPT, etc, just to name some of my favorites. These are some really interesting drugs. Also, they're pretty much devoid of cultural context. That's important in a way. LSD carries a lot of cultural baggage and complexity in addition to pharmacological complexity, a "purer" if perhaps less "classic" experience can be had elsewhere, and once you get to know these drugs you can sort of pick something that's conducive to what you want in terms of general feel, time-frame, intensity, etc.

 

[Kittycat5]

When you say cultural context do you mean acid being what it is, it is expected by many to be done in a certain fashion that is tried and true while these exotics no one even knows what the hell they are so you can just enjoy their effects without having to worry about them being some divine tool or whatever people think about LSD? Im all for that, but can take acid that way too.

But does anything compare to LSD in terms of visuals, headspace, and overall "goodness"? If so, and not so long acting, that would be wonderful.

 

[swilow]

LSD IS friggin unique IME. I've come to prefer either 4-HO-MET or AMT. Both are more recreational to me, and I only really trip for shits n giggles these days.

Still, if youve never IVed 5-MEO-DMT, I recommend that. No shits nor giggles but some other wordly stuff there.

 

[Kittycat5]

I really have no problem using LSD solely for recreation but once and awhile it would be nice to sleep say 8 hours after tripping. So one of these seem perfect (not sure still which, 4-Aco-DMT always seemed good) but of course getting it is the next hurdle. Idk, Im getting some shrooms later this week. Maybe they are better alternative as well.

 

[swilow]

Well, they are shorter acting... Very intense though, I find shrooms to be very anxiogenic. Analogs not so much.

A great short acting drug is 2C-D. I can actually snort it without feeling like my face is melting and it gives me 2hours or so of nice face melting.

 

[Kittycat5]

Oh Ive done them just not in years. Id be all for an analogue as I hate the taste and prefer synthetics anyway for most part. And I could try and sniff them too.

 

[solistus]

 

[Img_9999]

I've realized relatively recently that I have a strange pet-peave while tripping; that is, when someone, particularly who is not tripping, asks me about my trip (i.e. "How's your trip going man," or "What are you seeing, can you describe it?")

LOL sounds really annoying. It's like when someone asks you out of nowhere "Are you angry?? You sure you are not angry ?? You don't look particularly happy either to me..." and then you DO end up angry.

of the lysergamides, but from what I am given to understand there's substantial differences in response from subject to subject and the better ones would be unlikely to be distinguishable under placebo conditions, so unless they can be had cheaply on the gram level, who cares?

Although what you said about subjective differences is true, AL-LAD and ETH-LAD are different enough to be worth trying, even if just out of curiosity. AL-LAD is specially unique among lysergamides, I think, although not very potent. But at the sweet-spot I find it a much more euphoric, though a little bit blurrier lysergic experience. Sometimes I get some strange dissociative-like moments from it. The CEVs are the strongest I've gotten from any substance.

 

[Xorkoth]

Al-LAD and ETH-LAD are indeed quite distinct compounds, although of course there are also strong similarities to LSD. It's like the 2C-Xs or the 4-sub-tryptamines... they're all similar within a class but not many would say the differences are small enough to be placebo or that it's not worth having different ones available to use. AL-LAD in particular is quite different from LSD, much more outright euphoric and social with very different visuals and as Img said, a blurrier headspace. ETH-LAD is also different, it reminds me quite a bit of mescaline, similar visuals to LSD but different as well. The headspace is a lot less chaotic, much more serene.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

i was gonna drop l at the show im goin to friday but the chick i am goim witn said shed rather i not cause i was weird new years whem i did that..
disappointed