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did you play Morrowind?

Nope. Oblivion was my introduction to the series.

Although I love this kind of stuff stoned, drunk, or both - am I the only one here who finds games and movies a little lacking when I trip?

No, not by a long shot! I've only tried this once actually. Took some acid and then sat down to play some Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. All the magic was completely gone. What once was a big and beautiful fantasy world became a flat, 2-dimensional, pixellated handful of polygons. In fact, the inherent limitations of the game world became almost claustrophobic. The only dynamic and interactive elements of the game world were basically the bare minimum elements needed to proceed from point A to B on the linear path of gameplay. Everything else was a completely static and unmoving facade. The game developers have already planned almost every move in your "grand adventure". No two people have a fundamentally different journey through the game world. Etc.

Whereas, if I'm stoned, then it's completely involving and exciting, whether it's role-playing, first-person shooting, or puzzle-solving!
 
Nope. Oblivion was my introduction to the series.

Ah, then you can't see where I'm coming from as almost all of my complaints would reference Morrowind...but a couple ones you could get, they cut the number of factions you can join in half practically, majorly curtailed your freedom as Oblivion introduced characters you can't kill (in morrowind you could screw up future quests by killing someone important or even break the main story, but the game would tell you if you killed someone crucial to the main plot so you could reload if you so choose) and items you can't drop, switched from an innovative and imaginative world to generic LOTR-type fantasy fare, the scaled leveling system in Oblivion was horrendous by any account (why you could do any quest, or go to any area whenever you felt like in that game, it adjusted it to your level, whereas previously things were more set. I beat the oblivion main quest at lvl 7, in morrowind there were plenty of bandit caves (something else they were lacking in Oblivion...they filled caves all monsters instead of having some filled with bandits with robinson crusoe type hideouts) where you would be murdered in less than a minute if you went in that level), magic is completely broken in oblivion...conjuration especially made everything pitifully easy while other skills like mysticism (used to have enchantment and teleportation spells) and alteration (you used to be able to levitate!) have been made useless as is security/lockpicking since you can get an unbreakable skeleton key at level 10 in oblivion.

All the ruins are made out of grey stones in oblivion, even in the expansion set, how fucking boring is that. Morrowind had your stone medieval shit, steampunk dwarven ruins, daedric ruins which weren't some generic lava-world crap. Each region of morrowind had it's unique architectural style (giant mushrooms conveted into buildings on the rather sparsely populated and xenophobic West, more clayish normal buildings in the richer southeast, oddly shaped things in the desert, stone type buildings in Imperial settlements, wooden fishing villages, a bunch of giant bunkers floating in the water for the cultural/religious capital. The world was full of unique things for you to find if you took the time to go to inaccessible places (more shipwrecks, underwater caves off random ass islands around the coast, etc. etc.).

Then you have stuff like the omniscient quest compas in oblivion that tells you were everything is. Before people gave you directions, like go look for this rock and head southeast...it ended up being more northeast probably but you found all kinds of awesome stuff when wandering around looking. And you couldn't teleport isntantly to any location you had been previously, you had to walk to a town and take a transit system (boat, silt striders, or mages guild teleportation) or huff it...why did they even add mountable animals (boring ass horses) in Oblivion if they let you teleport instantly? Plus the shape of the world was a bowl so you get anywhere pretty quickly (all the mountains are at the borders) it made it feel a lot smaller than the island of Vvardenfell in morrowind which had the endgame area in the center of the map, volcanic and mountainous so walking would be extremely inconvenient, with higher level enemies that could make short work of an unprepared player. Plus, Cyrodil, where Oblivion takes place was described in books found in previous games as having rainforests and being in a tropical climate.

And let's not forget the mainquest, where you are that one dude's glorified manservent just doing what you're told through the whole game and not even getting a final boss battle. Your character was entirely superfluous. In morrowind you had to unite rival political factions (one was a bunch of wealthy merchants with a leader who you could sway to your side by stripping for him, one was an honor bound desert warrior cultural, and the other a bunch of misanthropic wizards who you could simply murder if you so chose), indigenous persons, and in general be an active important part of the plot.

I'm going to stop now, I have about 20 other complaints still on the top of my head, but I haven't gone into much detail about the previous ones. I could go about it in a more organized manner but I figured just what popped to mind instantly was too much to put down so whatevs. Suffice to say, they went from a complex, unique, somewhat difficult at times gameworld and replaced it with a simple, generic, and nerfed piece of crap to pander to the casual audience.

On the plus side, the gameplay mechanics and physics in oblivion was way improved. No longer would you stand 5 inches away from some enemy swinging at them while the game tells you that you are missing them. And regenerating magicka made the wizarding classes much more viable (sadly it made them obscenely powerful so nothing could stand in your way at a relatively early/mid level).


Hurm....it seems after the oddly sedative combined peak, the dxm wore off quickly leaving me with typical post trip 2c-e stimulation.
 
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^ Interesting comparisons, man, thanks.

I hope that Bethesda listened to old Morrowind fans like yourself when designing Skyrim. We will find out shortly.


BTW how's your psychedelic dissociation coming along?
 
The peak seemed to take on characteristics different from both DXM and 2c-e, it was very interesting, after that the 2c-e residual stimulation gradually came into the forefront, but the combo itself would be worth further experimentation. I'm not sure what situations it's suited for, I know I like dissociatives anytime, and psychs when I'm in the mood, but this was different...a placid contendedness instead of any of the thought trains I'd associate with either of the component drugs. It may be worth noting that around t+2 (right as the effects were smoothing out) I started consuming alcohol and have continued doing so, consumption increasing as stimulation increased.

My previous experiments with Psych+dissociative combos had never gone so well. I either tried them of curiousity at higher doses (and ended up just thinking the psychs tainted the dissociative high) or used the psychs to supplement an insufficient or waning dissociative experience I didn't want to let go of (this was rather successfull and enjoyable, but not something I'd do frequently).
 
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So Amnesia didn't really work out last night. I was too confused to figure out where to go next at one point so I gave up, got in bed, hit the bong, and lay there watching the sun rise. It was real beautiful :)

Then I passed out a couple minutes later, woke up at 6:30pm still high as a kite haha. :D
 
Some MXE came in the post today (everyone seems to be going on about it so thought I'd try :P) I'd prefer to oral/sublingual rather than snort... How does 30mg in a gel cap sound?
 
Hah you just weren't tripping hard enough.. I played some Zelda while tripping on acid once, I was not able to even try the point a to point b, forget objectives... I just went on my own adventure in whatever direction the ground looked coolest.

Nope. Oblivion was my introduction to the series.



No, not by a long shot! I've only tried this once actually. Took some acid and then sat down to play some Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. All the magic was completely gone. What once was a big and beautiful fantasy world became a flat, 2-dimensional, pixellated handful of polygons. In fact, the inherent limitations of the game world became almost claustrophobic. The only dynamic and interactive elements of the game world were basically the bare minimum elements needed to proceed from point A to B on the linear path of gameplay. Everything else was a completely static and unmoving facade. The game developers have already planned almost every move in your "grand adventure". No two people have a fundamentally different journey through the game world. Etc.

Whereas, if I'm stoned, then it's completely involving and exciting, whether it's role-playing, first-person shooting, or puzzle-solving!
 
Some MXE came in the post today (everyone seems to be going on about it so thought I'd try :P) I'd prefer to oral/sublingual rather than snort... How does 30mg in a gel cap sound?

I would dose lower. 20 mg. max
 
Oh really? I've read of 25mg insufflated being relatively mild, and apparently oral isn't as effective as insufflated?
 
Mmm, had some shriveled jujubes (aka chinese dates or ziziphus) so I made tea out of them. The fruit itself has a taste and texture rather like apples, but has b vitamins, potassium, magnesium and other good stuff, the tea retains the apple-y taste somewhat and is very mild and rather delicious. The leaves of the plant (I guess that means not the fruit maybe?) also contain a rather interesting compound that hampers your ability to taste sweet things....fascinating! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziziphin. The plant also may help prevent impairment of hippocampal memory. Darn, I wish I had more of that fruit left, I'll have to save some to test that out some time.

Another plant with a similar anti-sweet compound has been used as an anti-diabetes treatment in India for the past couple millenia (that plant is shown to stimulate insulin production). The medicinal properties of plants are pretty amazing, eh (haha, not that that needs to be said on this website of all places)?

Makes me wish I had a herbal garden (though I'd probably use a lot of space growing flowers and maybe some culinary plants, if only I had the space and know how to do so).

Also, I had a dream last night that this thread was closed and a new PD social thread was started. But that's impossible becauseThis is the thread that doesn't end.
 
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Hmm... haven't heard anything quite like that before! 'Haunting' is a word that came to mind...

Yeah, neo-folk is often quite eerie. Current 93 is a great project, started as pretty raw industrial in late 70's and now playing folk. Its good stuff, occult and mystical.

"I know you won't break the rules. There aren't any".

Mad Max is good...
 
So my money's all in the bank. I'm not sure whether to order now or save for a slightly bigger purchase.. Hmm.
 
^ Well, I always say, if it feels good now, DO IT

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Hah you just weren't tripping hard enough.. I played some Zelda while tripping on acid once, I was not able to even try the point a to point b, forget objectives... I just went on my own adventure in whatever direction the ground looked coolest.

this sounds glorious.....roaming through hyrule on your trusty epona killing zombies and ghosts..while on LSD :D



i'm referring of course to ocarina of time, not some shitty 'twilight princess' (sorry wiitards)
 
The one thing I truly dislike about the RC scene is that there are so many interesting chemicals to choose from, and smaller "sample" amounts aren't usually worth buying, so I end up having to choose.

Although I was set on 500mg 6-APB and 500mg MXE before I'm considering swapping the MXE for 100mg of aMT, since I've wanted to try it for a while. Then there's Etizolam which sounds like it would be perfect for my anxiety.

Ignorance is bliss. I miss the days when I never knew these things existed! :P
 
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