Palestine discussion

[Jnowhere]

Israeli settlements, and the expanding divide of settlers and Palestinians

Today, upwards of 700,000 Israelis live in settlements which the U.N. calls illegal. "Sunday Morning" talks with two settlers and with Palestinians in the West Bank living on opposite sides of an Israeli security barrier.

www.cbsnews.com

Screw the UN. They would just sit there with their collective thumbs up each other's butt's while Holocaust 2.0 happened if the firepower situation were reversed. As Nasser said " Push them into the sea." This was just before the 6 day war.

Funny how no one gave a shit as millions died in Africa ( 5.4 million estimated death toll in the Congo Wars of the late 90's and early 2000's and no one gave a shit. ) Why because they were poor black African's and few in the media cared.

No one was going to stop it and nobody in the very racist left wing media really cared or considered killing millions of poor Black African's news.

Double standard. Pure politics and racism.
What, are you actually stupid enough to not see the massive difference as to how the main stream media reported The Congo Wars versus Israel being attacked and fighting back? Look up the Congo Wars. Many in the West have no idea the worst wars in Africa even happened.

Poor black African's lives do not matter to the main stream media. But the Israeli conflict is good for ratings.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Screw the UN. They would just sit there with their collective thumbs up each other's butt's while Holocaust 2.0 happened if the firepower situation were reversed. As Nasser said " Push them into the sea." This was just before the 6 day war.

Funny how no one gave a shit as millions died in Africa ( 5.4 million estimated death toll in the Congo Wars of the late 90's and early 2000's and no one gave a shit. ) Why because they were poor black African's and few in the media cared.

No one was going to stop it and nobody in the very racist left wing media really cared or considered killing millions of poor Black African's news.

Double standard. Pure politics and racism.
What, are you actually stupid enough to not see the massive difference as to how the main stream media reported The Congo Wars versus Israel being attacked and fighting back? Look up the Congo Wars. Many in the West have no idea the worst wars in Africa even happened.

Poor black African's lives do not matter to the main stream media. But the Israeli conflict is good for ratings.

You claim that nobody cared but I think you just didn't notice

Ten years on, Congolese authorities have not done enough to end rampant killings

The UN Mapping Report remains a powerful reminder of the crimes committed in DR Congo and the shocking absence of justice

www.amnesty.org

 

[Jnowhere]

I wrote about this shit in college. I was bitching and nobody seemed to know or care.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Screw the UN. They would just sit there with their collective thumbs up each other's butt's while Holocaust 2.0 happened if the firepower situation were reversed. As Nasser said " Push them into the sea." This was just before the 6 day war.

Funny how no one gave a shit as millions died in Africa ( 5.4 million estimated death toll in the Congo Wars of the late 90's and early 2000's and no one gave a shit. ) Why because they were poor black African's and few in the media cared.

No one was going to stop it and nobody in the very racist left wing media really cared or considered killing millions of poor Black African's news.

Double standard. Pure politics and racism.
What, are you actually stupid enough to not see the massive difference as to how the main stream media reported The Congo Wars versus Israel being attacked and fighting back? Look up the Congo Wars. Many in the West have no idea the worst wars in Africa even happened.

Poor black African's lives do not matter to the main stream media. But the Israeli conflict is good for ratings.

Did you read the article and not just the headline? The point is Israel steadily stealing Palestinian land year after year.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Trump now says that with his plan to take over Gaza, the Palestinians would not have the right to return and he would own at least part of Gaza.
Kick 'em out of Gaza. Slowly take over the West Bank. Helluva peace plan.

 

[mal3volent]

 

[mal3volent]

Shocker.
It's almost like they want more war.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Wow like wtf. Isn't this considered a war crime or admitting of being killers. And how can there country which in this case is Australia and allows this. How the fuck can't there be any action taken on those 2.

 

[mal3volent]

Wow like wtf. Isn't this considered a war crime or admitting of being killers. And how can there country which in this case is Australia and allows this. How the fuck can't there be any action taken on those 2.

They claim there is an investigation but who knows what will come of it. And they've been removed from ever working in healthcare again, at least.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

They claim there is an investigation but who knows what will come of it. And they've been removed from ever working in healthcare again, at least.

Thank God for that. I try not to keep up too much about this war as it just messes me up ( like a trigger )

Struggling with emotional shit atm and know I don't need to add to that.
Sidnote:sorry for off topic.

 

[-=SS=-]

Wow like wtf. Isn't this considered a war crime or admitting of being killers. And how can there country which in this case is Australia and allows this. How the fuck can't there be any action taken on those 2.

I'm so fucking sick of hearing about this shit as well. Every day it's another stabbing, another rape, another group loitering around schools taking photos, another attempted kidnapping, another car ploughing into a crowd (today in Munich, suspected 24-yr old Afghan refugee, drove into a crowd injuring adults and children): Munich latest: Car ramming was 'suspected attack' - as German leader declares Afghan driver 'must leave country' - Sky News

And I'm sick of others trying to defend these people as well. Nope. Time to go. Round up and deport them all. These people are a lead weight around our ankles.

 

[Jnowhere]

Did you read the article and not just the headline? The point is Israel steadily stealing Palestinian land year after year.

No, they are taking back what is their ancestors homeland. I brought up the Congo Wars because all you anti semites, are hypocrites and didn't care about 5.4 million dead Black Africans.
Most people are unaware. But given a chance to attack the Jews for taking back what is theirs, then suddenly you care about business affairs that predates The Western World.

The people voted in a terrorist organization and this is what happens.

The Germans voted in enough members of the The National Socialists German Workers Party to give Hitler power and he took the rest and the German people suffered far worse. But that's what happens when you have Hamas as your government and are backed by Iran.

 

[Jnowhere]

Palestine is a region. It's also a state. Although "unrecognized". It has been fought over for thousands of years and has changed hands several times. Between the Jews, the Romans, the Arabs, Western European Crusaders, the Ottomans, and more. It has thus had a lot of different cultures and languages used in it. It was called Palestine before it became Israel. Look on old maps.

God gave that and a whole lot more land to them. They kept making him angry, then he dispersed them and just like it says in the Bible( after they were kicked out) Israel will become a nation again in 1 day. The Balfour Agreement 1948

 

[brokedownpalace10]

But given a chance to attack the Jews for taking back what is theirs, then suddenly you care about business affairs that predates The Western World.

Ummm, that area being "theirs" predates the western world.

The native Americans have more of a claim to America than the Jews have to Israel, it's in the name, "native Americans".

 

[Jnowhere]

The American Indians can try to take it back. I will begin loading my peacemakers. Israel fought and got a sliver of their Promised Land back. And no one is going to push them into the sea or ever succeed in finishing what Hitler Started, as badly as their ' neighbors' want to. God gave them that land and more. He got mad and dispersed them and when he felt it was time just like the prophesy in the Bible about Israel becoming a country again in a day. Isaiah 66:8

That day was May 14, 1948

That and alot more was given to them but The Jews angered God many times before dispersing them, but promised to give them a homeland again, The Lord is always true to his word.

Why so much noise and all this, because this is more than what we can see. It is the last days,years or decades. All this fighting and historic significance is not enough to keep this up; this is super natural and you can go buy a good study Bible and learn why. But you will not.
Since the 60's Israel and Jerusalem and all the stuff going on there and always in the news why?

Because that is the homeland of God's chosen people and Satan hates God but
Is powerless against him. So he attacks the Jew's and well you could get a good study Bible. I would recommend the one by John MacArthur. I personally have a decent study Bible, but might buy his. This is all about the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

The American Indians can try to take it back. I will begin loading my peacemakers. Israel fought and got a sliver of their Promised Land back. And no one is going to push them into the sea or ever succeed in finishing what Hitler Started, as badly as their ' neighbors' want to. God gave them that land and more. He got mad and dispersed them and when he felt it was time just like the prophesy in the Bible about Israel becoming a country again in a day. Isaiah 66:8

That day was May 14, 1948

That and alot more was given to them but The Jews angered God many times before dispersing them, but promised to give them a homeland again, The Lord is always true to his word.

Why so much noise and all this, because this is more than what we can see. It is the last days,years or decades. All this fighting and historic significance is not enough to keep this up; this is super natural and you can go buy a good study Bible and learn why. But you will not.
Since the 60's Israel and Jerusalem and all the stuff going on there and always in the news why?

Because that is the homeland of God's chosen people and Satan hates God but
Is powerless against him. So he attacks the Jew's and well you could get a good study Bible. I would recommend the one by John MacArthur. I personally have a decent study Bible, but might buy his. This is all about the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Guess you don't believe in the New Covenant.

 

[Jnowhere]

Guess you don't believe in the New Covenant.

Of course I do, the Jews didn't and killed the Savior of man Jesus Christ. All who will repent of their sins( yes Christians still sin) And accept Jesus Christ, The One and Only Son of God as their Lord And Savior and understand why he came to die and to serve as an example of how a person should live. He was fully God and Fully Man. The Lord Jesus Christ has been around forever but was born to Virgin by The Holy Spirit. Mary wasn't a virgin for very long after Jesus was born. The Catholics can lie all they want. Jesus had brothers and sisters.
The new covenant replaced the old system of sacrifices and dietary laws and made repentance of ones sins and a saving knowledge and a true belief in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the Savior of man. Jesus Christ proved who he was through his miracles, teachings,
Death on the cross as a sacrifice for the sins of man. 3 days later he came back to life.

I could go on and on but God has plans for the Jews, the ones that aren't in hell.
They will be redeemed in God's eyes.

Do I need to go on and on my hand is tired from typing with a stylus pen on my phone.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Of course I do, the Jews didn't and killed the Savior of man Jesus Christ. All who will repent of their sins( yes Christians still sin) And accept Jesus Christ, The One and Only Son of God as their Lord And Savior and understand why he came to die and to serve as an example of how a person should live. He was fully God and Fully Man. The Lord Jesus Christ has been around forever but was born to Virgin by The Holy Spirit. Mary wasn't a virgin for very long after Jesus was born. The Catholics can lie all they want. Jesus had brothers and sisters.
The new covenant replaced the old system of sacrifices and dietary laws and made repentance of ones sins and a saving knowledge and a true belief in Jesus Christ as the son of God and the Savior of man. Jesus Christ proved who he was through his miracles, teachings,
Death on the cross as a sacrifice for the sins of man. 3 days later he came back to life.

I could go on and on but God has plans for the Jews, the ones that aren't in hell.
They will be redeemed in God's eyes.

Do I need to go on and on my hand is tired from typing with a stylus pen on my phone.

You know, the Native American's religion told them this land was theirs. Look up the ghost dance.

 

[Jnowhere]

You know, the Native American's religion told them this land was theirs. Look up the ghost dance.

I don't care

 

[someguyontheinternet]

I don't care

You brought up the Congo, I care about those deaths as well. I don't think any people should face that sort of genocide or ethnic cleansing.

Many peoples have been wiped off the face of the earth, cultures and knowledge lost to humanity. I don't know what perspective you come from when you discuss your passion for trying to bring some sort of attention to the Congo genocide when you were younger, but I'm glad you did. I assume it was out of empathy for the people losing their loved ones and their own lives and for the people who made it out with lifelong trauma.

I hope you don't let go of that empathy. I think you can use that to teach younger people about the things that happened in the past, we should learn from history. I know sometimes it feels like you're just shouting into a void with no result, I feel that way sometimes too. But every person you have a discussion with about it is an opportunity to share your viewpoint with them, I think many people are empathetic if you give them a chance and have a conversation.

Everyone on the planet has a unique and nuanced experience that shaped who they are and the knowledge they hold. There are many issues I care about as well that I realize many people have just never encountered before and I think that's okay. None of us will ever know everything or have an intense passion for everything, that just isn't feasible. Humanity is really a team effort.

I hope you can extend that same empathy towards people being harmed in the past, such as the native Americans and those in the Congo, those being harmed today and in the future when you learn about these things happening again, as we know they will because history tends to repeat itself.

The future depends on those of us who care not giving up, I think you've got a good heart @Jnowhere and I hope you never give up