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Oxycontin and Xanax

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HI,, I quit taking 240 mg of Oxycontin and 8mg of xanax cold turkey last Feb,. I've been on opiates for about 10 yrs and the xanax for about a year... I don't know if it's normal to still have withdrawal symptoms although I feel better I still feel very weak, can't sleep right, and most of all the pain in my legs.. It's hard to believe I took drugs for that long everyday and still alive.. wondering if maybe I did some permanent damage.. anyone else in my shoes??? Sure could use some advise Thanks
 
Welcome to Bluelight :)

And yes, it is possible to cause permanent damage with long-term benzodiazepine use, especially at the dosage you were taking. It's definitely normal to still feel withdrawal symptoms; there's really no rhyme or reason to benzo withdrawals from what I've seen... it seems to vary from person to person. Either way, you were on a hell of a high dosage to be taking per day and then CT from. I would go see a doctor as soon as possible. I'm not trying to scare you, but wow. You were on double the recommended dosage from alprazolam, and then to quit CT... you're lucky you didn't have a seizure, honestly. :/

That's the good thing about Bluelight though, there's so many people who are willing to help here and talk you through this kind of stuff. There are tons of people in your situation; you should check out the Other Drugs forum.
 
Welcome!!! :)
Sorry to hear of your woes...they are all too familiar,I must admit. :(
The bright side is that you have joined a Harm Reduction site full of info AND a community full of support. :D
Check out the current Featured Forum-The Dark Side( TDS ). A brief writ-up can be found at the top of the 1st thread page in this forum in what we call a "sticky"-meaning it stays where it is and doesn't get moved down the line as new intro threads are added. I think you would benefit greatly from TDS!
Let us know if you have any questions!!! We are here to help! :)

Much peace and love.............................skillz =D
 
Thanks,. I"m gonna make an appointment soon,, I have a hard time trusting a doctor for the obvious reasons, but I can't do this on my own anymore.. It's been months since I stopped taking the meds and I still feel horrible,

I really appreciate your advise..
 
EDIT: I just realized how long this is, sorry. But it's also pretty important info to have, so @OP - if you have the time, you should definitely read it! <3

A lot of people don't get the help they need because they're too afraid to fess up about their illicit drug use to a doctor, not realizing that they won't be judged or sent to jail. I give you huge props for that, because it takes a lot of courage to admit you need help. I know I was scared shitless when I made that phone call to my doctor! So again, props. :)

Anyway, I thought of something else that I think you could benefit from (I know that for me, personally, it has helped immensely) - ask your primary doctor to refer you to an addiction specialist. You don't have to, of course, but let me tell you... it can literally turn your recovery around full circle, but in a good way. Handing the reigns over to my addiction specialist as opposed to my family doctor was probably the only good, if not the best, decision I've made when it comes to my own battle with addiction.

I hate to say it, but you have really gotten yourself into a fucked up situation. I'm not trying to scare you, but there is a very good reason why almost everyone in the medical profession advises against quitting any type of benzo cold turkey, even at doses MUCH lower than yours - because there is a good chance that doing so will cause permanent damage. Aside from the risk of seizures and psychosis CT brings, it can completely rewire your brain.

I'm not an addiction specialist so I can't explain it as well as an addiction specialist could, but I'll try. Benzos act on the CNS and GABA receptors, which are basically in charge of sending messages to other areas to shut down and cease fire. It acts on a variety of areas, which is why long term use eventually causes lethargy and a decrease in cognitive functioning. Think of it this way: Your entire system has been put to sleep for a very long time. Your brain no longer has the ability to effectively control the GABA receptors on it's own, because it has become dependent on the benzos, and it's forgotten how to do this action on it's own. Because your mind and body (there are GABA receptors almost everywhere - in the liver, lungs, etc.) are so used to being "asleep", it sends everything into overdrive when the drug is abruptly taken away from doing what is now it's regular duty. Your brain is basically thinking, "whatthefuckholyshitwhatshouldido?!?!?!" Now all of your synapses are hyperaware and hypersensitive to excitement and they all begin firing at once. Hence, the seizures and the psychosis that can come around as a result. Quitting benzodiazepines cold turkey quite literally sends your entire system into shock.

Again, I'm not trying to scare you - I'm just trying to help you understand how serious it is, so that you can get the help you need in order to be okay again. Quitting benzodiazepines cold turkey also increases the risk of developing something called Protracted Withdrawal Symptom - similar to the PAWS from opiate/Suboxone that some people get. The normal amount of time for withdrawal symptoms to cease after a serious benzo dependency is anywhere from 30 days to 6 months. PWS comes into play when these symptoms continue after that 6 month period of time. It can take years and years and years to go away on it's own, without any outside help. That's why it's really good that you've made the decision to see a doctor, because I have a feeling that might be the case for you.

Luckily, it's not permanent, like I said. But it can take a long ass fucking time to go away. Another reason why I feel you could benefit from an addiction specialist is because it MIGHT be necessary for you to go back on benzos and then do a very slow and steady taper. That would be at yours and your doctor's discretion though, of course. But that might be the only way to get rid of the symptoms sooner than later, because having benzos back in your system would help your body and your brain to restabilize. A very slow and steady taper after that would be key, so as not to shock your system by putting your entire brain into overdrive again. Contrary to popular belief, quitting benzos cold turkey DOES NOT = a shorter withdrawal. Quite the opposite, actually. A slow and steady taper (I know I've said that like three times now, but I can't stress it enough) greatly diminishes not only the risk of seizure, psychosis, and permanent brain damage... but it also allows you to taper and eventually quit with little (and in some cases even no) withdrawal symptoms.

So yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what an addiction specialist would recommend (to go back on benzos), but I'll ask mine when I see him today just to be sure. Maybe he'll have some other good advice for you too, who knows. :)

I hope I didn't scare you or anything. Well, maybe a little bit, at least enough to make you want to go see a doctor sooner rather than later. Here's a really good website and FAQ about benzo withdrawal that might be able to address any other concerns or questions you might have. I really hope things get better for you soon. PLEASE go see a doctor SOON, if not an addiction specialist, before it gets any worse. There is no question in my mind that you would benefit greatly from outside help. I'm not trying to preach, honestly... I am genuinely worried for your health, even though that seems ridiculous because I don't know you. But I know addiction is hard enough as it is (I still don't know how you did cold turkey from BOTH those drugs at the dosages you were on!) without having to deal with other complications. I definitely sympathize with you though, because I'll be jumping off of benzo's myself within the next few months, and PWS/seizure/psychosis are what I'm most afraid of. So yes, even though I don't know you, I still feel for what you're going through! And remember Bluelight is always here if you need to talk, or vent, or if you have questions - I'm not kidding, the people on this site are pure amazingness. Feel free to PM me anytime too, if ya want!

Seriously though, I can't force you to do anything, but please make an appointment to see a doctor ASAP!!

GOOD LUCK! :) <3
 
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Wow! I've been on benzos for at least 10 years now and I had no idea how majorly they affect your brain and body as a whole. Call me ignorant, I guess! I'm only taking 0.5mg 3 times a day which was tapered down from 5mg or more per day. Even now, I will get a migraine headache and usually end up vomiting if I run out for a day. I can handle all that really. But its the way my mind goes completely manic that that throws me over the edge. Its like my brain is in overdrive and sleep is completely out of the equation for the entire amount of time before getting a dose again. One time my pills got stolen and literally went two weeks without a minute of sleep and at some point, I guess my psychosis went to a place that my brain couldn't handle and I blacked out. My case worker knew my situation and showed up at my door, meds in tow but she quickly realized how crazy I was acting so she stayed with me til the meds kicked in and I fell out for a blink. She was so worried that she stayed with me for two days before my brain started recording things again and my memory wasn't incapacitated anymore. Can you believe that?! Crazy, huh? Now I realize just how serious my episode was and I had no clue! I'm so lucky I had someone there to look after me. It scared the Holly hell out of me!
 
Wow! I've been on benzos for at least 10 years now and I had no idea how majorly they affect your brain and body as a whole. Call me ignorant, I guess! I'm only taking 0.5mg 3 times a day which was tapered down from 5mg or more per day. Even now, I will get a migraine headache and usually end up vomiting if I run out for a day. I can handle all that really. But its the way my mind goes completely manic that that throws me over the edge. Its like my brain is in overdrive and sleep is completely out of the equation for the entire amount of time before getting a dose again. One time my pills got stolen and literally went two weeks without a minute of sleep and at some point, I guess my psychosis went to a place that my brain couldn't handle and I blacked out. My case worker knew my situation and showed up at my door, meds in tow but she quickly realized how crazy I was acting so she stayed with me til the meds kicked in and I fell out for a blink. She was so worried that she stayed with me for two days before my brain started recording things again and my memory wasn't incapacitated anymore. Can you believe that?! Crazy, huh? Now I realize just how serious my episode was and I had no clue! I'm so lucky I had someone there to look after me. It scared the Holly hell out of me!

Actually, randomly discontinuing benzodiazepines leads to benzodiazepine withdrawal. You were experiencing physical withdrawal from the medication. It is severely unpleasant from what others have told me about it. It's best to keep a back-up stash of the medication you may not take (since when I was prescribed benzos, I go many days without them, very rarely do I take them now) - and keep them locked up. It's essential for your well-being as a patient. Too many people in this world would just take it without asking. Maybe some people are just ass holes, maybe other people can't stop themselves due to a serious addiction. Nonetheless, if you lock them up, and you are the only person that has a key for it, and you live by yourself (or hide the key extremely well, etc...) then you will always know where your medication went, that you had to have taken it. That way there's no "oh shit did someone steal my meds?" that a lot of Bluelighters have experienced.

I always feel bad for people who legitimately need the medication when they have it stolen from them, it seems the most unfair situation possible for them. If anything, I would ask your doctor for a different benzodiazepine as a back up med, and you would keep that elsewhere, away from your first medication. That way if anything were to happen, you would have something. Even if it might be less potent, something half as potent would still reduce more than just half of the withdrawal effects if you just suddenly discontinue them. :)

There's lots of more information about benzodiazepines and how they interact with the brain in Other Drugs as well as Advanced Drug Discussion. Finally, Welcome to Bluelight!!
 
Benzodiazepines can cause permanent damage? Hmmm... I don't think that I've suffered any lasting damage.

But anyway, welcome to Bluelight! Be sure to check out the Drug Culture forum. Word on the street is that Drug Culture is undoubtedly the coolest forum on this board. Jus sayin' ;)
 
Be sure to check out the Drug Culture forum. Word on the street is that Drug Culture is undoubtedly the coolest forum on this board. Jus sayin' ;)

It's a fact. All the cool kids go there these days.
 
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