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Oxycodon Damage!!!!! help

FastRaceCarGuy

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Hi I am just wondering what oxycodon WITHOUT TYLENOL damages? Does it harm your liver at high doses? or is it true that it doesnt really hard anything but just makes you super addicted. Someone please respond quickly im freaking out as I have taken very high doses in my past ( and I am VERY TOLERANT) 200 + MG
 
You're fine.
How could you possibly know this?

Oxycodone can and does damage the liver, even if it's not that severe. If he has been dosing for very long periods of time at 200mg+, he could very well have endured liver damage.
He could also have a lower/higher concentration of the enzymes that metabolize oxycodone which has been known to cause toxicity.

Oxycodone is metabolized by the cytochrome P450 enzyme system in the liver, making it vulnerable to drug interactions. Some people are fast metabolizers, resulting in reduced analgesic effect, but increased adverse effects, while others are slow metabolizers, resulting in increased toxicity without improved analgesia. The dose of Oxycontin must be reduced in patients with reduced hepatic function.

Oxycodone has also been linked to increased liver toxicity in patients with previous liver problems and users with Hepatitis C. If he is injecting, he could have Hep C which could be the culprit. He didn't give much information.
 
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You're right. But I responded to the limited info he gave. He never stated that he's a regular user, has a habit, etc. just that he has taken high doses in the past. I assumed that to mean not often and not currently.
 
^More importantly he didn't really say why he is concerned about liver damage aside from the fact that he took high doses. Is there any symptoms he is suffering that would lead him to believe he has liver damage? can you answer that OP? I assume to get a habit of 200 mg + he must have had a habit to some degree.

Honestly I would not worry too much about the oxycodone causing liver damage. Like was already said, unless you contracted hep C its not too much of a concern.
 
No but iv had maybe a. Total of 15 or 20 doses. Of about 200-250 mg doses within a couple hours, no needles ever and no Tylenol. I feel fine just trying to prevent harm

^^^ within the last few months*

If it helps sometimes would be 120 - 180!
 
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You don't have much to worry about. For its strength oxycodone is relatively gentle on the body. The most serious health concerns related to opioids tends to be constipation and physical dependence.
 
Will anyone agree to this because im offically seeing two different things? Now I am not talking about damage done from tylenol, the pills I am prescribed are 30mg IR oxy with no tylenol
 
Will anyone agree to this because im offically seeing two different things? Now I am not talking about damage done from tylenol, the pills I am prescribed are 30mg IR oxy with no tylenol
If you have irregular enzymes or Hepatitis C, then damage from pure Oxycodone to the liver is highly plausible.
If you do not have either of those, you should be fine.
 
The 30s yer taking have no tylenol wont really harm yer liver. If yer health is what yer worried about than you should be conserned about addiction. Physically you should be good unless you take a real high dose an might OD.
 
Was thinking about taking 285 mg sometime soon, going to try to potentiate with tagment? Should I take the tagment with or before the oxy, also how many mg of the tagment. Also is it ok to take some benedryl with both tagment and oxy to fix the "itchies" ?
 
I imagine potentiation with tagamet would mess with your liver enzymes if damage is really your concern. 285 mg should be enough on it's own without the need to use something to potentiate oxycodone. Like mentioned already, you might worry more about getting addicted especially if high doses like that have lost their magic.
 
^ This. I would say if you are dosing at that amount and considering potentiation, physical dependence is a certainty and mental addiction already being firmly in place is highly likely.
 
I am actually very in control of what I do, throught out the years have just built a tolerance. Im not a every day user, i go weeks, sometimes months, I just like to have my "fun nights" here and there. just happens that im a 250+++ mg tolerance. Im sure its nothing new to this site? Im sure there are people well over 300mg without even thinking twice? granted this is a harm reduction site and I appreciate the advice :)
 
Dude ya got the IR roxis i dont think ya need to be taken shit to potentiate the oxycodone. If yer not gettin high enough just take more. If 285mg oxy dont get ya there an you got the $ to buy that many than just buy a few more to get ya to where ya wanna be.
 
Be careful about going "weeks or months" between dosing, then increasing your dose dramatically as your tolerance does drop with abstinence. Less so if you have been physically dependent long-term, but still it could lead to an overdose if you have a long break and then have a much larger dose than what your previous "usual" dose.

Also, most people addicted to opiods, including myself, started the same way as you. Addiction is a real possibilty, no matter how much you think you have it under control. Just keep that in mind in the interests of harm reduction.
 
How could you possibly know this?

Oxycodone can and does damage the liver, even if it's not that severe. If he has been dosing for very long periods of time at 200mg+, he could very well have endured liver damage.
He could also have a lower/higher concentration of the enzymes that metabolize oxycodone which has been known to cause toxicity.



Oxycodone has also been linked to increased liver toxicity in patients with previous liver problems and users with Hepatitis C. If he is injecting, he could have Hep C which could be the culprit. He didn't give much information.

I think you are totally misreading what the quote you posted is saying. Oxycodone itself does not cause liver damage. If you metabolize oxy slowly it can build up a toxicity of the oxy in your body. What this means is you will have more oxy in your body/blood/system than a person on average would. Therefore you will be more likely to OD because it dissipates so much more slowly. If your liver is already compromised by some type of liver disease such as Hep C then you are going to metabolize the oxy and any other drug in the world that is metabolized by the liver much more slowly causing an more than average persons buildup of the drug in your body in general (not the liver) which increases the chances of the same types of problems you would have when you take too much. This is why all drugs that are metabolized by the liver caution that in impaired liver function (such as Hep C) lower doses than normal are recommended. This is because your liver does not process it (clean it out of your body) as quickly as it should causing increased levels which lead to toxicity!

The whole point I am trying to get across to you is oxycodone does not cause liver damage, but liver damage will cause the oxy to not be processed (metabolized) out of your body as quickly as it should which could lead to a build up of oxy to toxic levels.

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OP, long term high dosages of oxycodone can cause problems no doubt. The main problems include slowing down of the digestive system which most commonly causes constipation. Please dont think that this is insignificant though. I have taken care of several patients who had 'had a little constipation'' that ended in a blockage in the intestine which led to a rupture which is a medical emergency requiring surgery ASAP and can lead to infection and death. It can also cause an increase in pain(usually chronic pain patients) in rare instances that can only be relieved by stopping the meds (oxy).

In studies of long term use of any narcotics for pain, some results show that it can mess with your immune system slightly and your levels of testosterone. People taking pain medications should have their levels checked periodically. Again, these 2 findings are a little controversial and do not usually significantly impact people.

So the really big issues regarding taking oxy are the ones most people know about. This is the decreased respiratory drive in higher doses. This is what kills you in an OD. Of course if it doesnt kill you it could cause permanent brain damage due to decreased oxygen getting to your brain during a respiratory arrest if you are not oxygenated quickly enough. But the most common and biggest issue is addiction and tolerance.

You have a lot of contradicting info in this post and some of your prior posts. You imply you only take it when you can get it but then on one post you stated you had a prescription for oxy 30mg. you state in some places that you only take occasionally but yet you have a tolerance of over 200mg. Im not trying to call you out just want to warn you that a full blown addiction/tolerance/dependence on oxy is not fun. If you are not there yet, then my advice would be stop while you are ahead. Use it recreationally and on occasion. But trust me, as a nurse for 20 years and as a chronic pain patient with a long term dependence on oxycodone, it quits being fun when you have to have it, everyday, all day.
 
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