OxyDillyKing
Bluelighter
I have been on suboxone for nearly 2 years. for the 2 years before that i was an I.V. opiate pill/ heroin user. i have been weening of my suboxone in preparation to get a full high and maybe lower my opiate tolerance a bit, im not sure what the cross tolerance between the Oxy IR 15mg pills ill be doing and a long acting opioid like bupenorphine is like. in prepping to get all the blockade effect out of my system i have only taken 30mg of Suboxone the last 6 days, where as usually i take 12-16mg per day. its been a little rough especially since the times when i was determined to make myself suffer a little to reduce the blockade effect build up and lower tolerance, i had a full bottle of Subs right next to me. I acquired thirty 15mg Oxy IR tablets made by Mallinckrodt 6 days ago when i started this Suboxone ween. I really want to IV them and plan to do so about 24 hours after my last 2mg dose of Sub. but i can already tell after so long away from the needle, even after 2 years of doing it many times a day for 2 years and loving the ritual, that im going to be very nervous when the time comes tommorow evening or the next morning ( whenever i feel 100% satisfied that every last vestige of a blocker effect is gone). I think theres a good chance, and i know this sounds funny from a 2 yr. veteran of IVing pills and H, that i might be too scared to go thru with it. I personally jumped right into shooting, ive never snorted Oxy, I have swallowed perc tens to get well. I know i dont want to just swallow these pills if i chicken out when going to IV them. I dont understand why most OXy abusers who dont IV sniff instead of swallow when the bioavailiblity of oral Oxy tops out at 87% and the intranasal BA tops out at 70%, does the snorting hit harder at first and thats why people do it??? i wouldnt mind plugging if i chicken out on the IV thing, ive heard that it is similiar to IM feeling ( which im familiar with from missing IV shots into arm) but can find any BA info on pugging oxy.
If im too scared to IV again, as in my heart begins to race and the anxiety gets too extreme, i am considering doing the following with the 15s
1 Snorting
2 Plugging ( reluctantly, but i will if its the 2nd only to IV)
3 Crushing up, sprinkling in water, and drinking, maybe with a shot of vodka to potentiate, or maybe just like mouth "plugging", squirting the same set up as plugging into my mouth with an oral syringe
I know besides IV that oral OXy has the highest BA, but that being so why do so many non IV oxy users snort? almost none of the OXy users ive known just swallow unless they get percs. why so many snorters if oral has the better BA? faster hit cuz of drip? hopefully ill just get up the courage to do the first shot and just get up the balls to IV the 15s and have a truly good time. but if not i still wanna have fun with them. they will be the first thing besides sub ive done in 21 months and i wanna have a good time. any info on best non IV oxy Roa would be appreciated. thanks
If im too scared to IV again, as in my heart begins to race and the anxiety gets too extreme, i am considering doing the following with the 15s
1 Snorting
2 Plugging ( reluctantly, but i will if its the 2nd only to IV)
3 Crushing up, sprinkling in water, and drinking, maybe with a shot of vodka to potentiate, or maybe just like mouth "plugging", squirting the same set up as plugging into my mouth with an oral syringe
I know besides IV that oral OXy has the highest BA, but that being so why do so many non IV oxy users snort? almost none of the OXy users ive known just swallow unless they get percs. why so many snorters if oral has the better BA? faster hit cuz of drip? hopefully ill just get up the courage to do the first shot and just get up the balls to IV the 15s and have a truly good time. but if not i still wanna have fun with them. they will be the first thing besides sub ive done in 21 months and i wanna have a good time. any info on best non IV oxy Roa would be appreciated. thanks
