Stimulants Overconfidence: My Worst Enemy?

[MrSexypancake]

Hey Bluelight, SexyPancake here. I wanted to ask about my meth usage.

I have been using a relatively short amount of time (under a month).
Last week, I smoked too much and got sick, which prompted me to quit. Everyone said I would have horrid withdrawals, but I really didn't experience anything aside from sleeping in later than normal during the weekend.My friend who deals owed me some money and paid me back today. He offered me some free shit as interest even though I told him it was fine. Well I ended up taking it, because I feel weird saying no to free stuff of any nature, but it left me worried.

After being clean for 4+ days with no withdrawals, I feel like moderate use won't set me up for a crash when I do quit. Is this mindset going to get me addicted. I once read a post on BL that stated anyone who wasn't afraid of becoming an addict, has no business even experimenting with hard drugs.

I do want to quit, but I can't just break all contact with an old friend. Not to mention he sells me quality green at a discount, and I don't plan on quitting that.

TL;DR: In your opinion, will the confidence I have from quitting without experiencing withdrawals lead me to addiction?

 

[sekio]

I feel like moderate use won't set me up for a crash when I do quit. Is this mindset going to get me addicted.

Your feelings are wrong there. You will crash at the end, like every meth user. And yeah, probably. "Using meth just one more time" never ends up in a good place.

If you want to quit meth, just flush the shit.

 

[MrSexypancake]

I don't think I could just go flush it. I enjoy it too much, and it would seem a waste.

I guess my response answers my own question.

This stuff reminds me of my former relation to dieting. Currently, I weigh around 165 lbs, but I used to weigh 270 lbs in high school. I used to call it "fat-person" logic when I would swear to start dieting the next day and eat nothing but healthy food from then on. Tomorrow never came, because I would compromise with myself and have just a little bit of candy or pizza. After that, I would always tell myself that my diet was shot anyway, so it was fine to be unhealthy for just one more day.

I never thought a drug could do that to me. No other addictive drug has ever been able to elicit this reaction from me.

 

[Jdubya71]

You need to rethink the term "friend." You think he doesn't want you back as a buying customer?

 

[MrSexypancake]

You need to rethink the term "friend." You think he doesn't want you back as a buying customer?

I'm certain he does want my money, but we have been friends since before I used and he dealt.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

TL;DR: In your opinion, will the confidence I have from quitting without experiencing withdrawals lead me to addiction?

Nope. After I quit IV crystal methamphetamine, I didn't have any withdrawals. It was barely a come down, I slept in for a few days in a row, that was about it. After I ate a lot and got that extra sleep in I had been neglecting, it was like I was back to normal.

Just because there isn't a major physical withdrawal symptom doesn't mean it's going to lead you to addiction. All you have to do is mentally remember how crappy it feels to be coming off of methamphetamine, and remind yourself you don't need to put yourself through that again.

There is also a post-use depression that methamphetamine cessation can create. I was depressed for about 9 to 12 months after I quit using IV methamphetamine. Keep in mind I was depressed for years and years before I started - so don't take my word for this as a "I know for a fact this is going to happen to me" or anything.

 

[MrSexypancake]

There is also a post-use depression that methamphetamine cessation can create. I was depressed for about 9 to 12 months after I quit using IV methamphetamine.

This is what I was worried about. I get pretty depressed sometimes, and have anxiety issues. I wasn't depressed or even irritable on the comedown. I was just tired for the weekend.

If you don't mind my asking, how long did you use before quitting? I'm just a bit over a month off and on myself.

 

[midnight run]

Meth is a drug that ive personally seen ruin many good people. What starts off as recreational use can develope into an addiction. When u say one more time wont hurt its that thinking that will leed u to addiction and trust me it grabs u by the balls!

 

[MrSexypancake]

Meth is a drug that ive personally seen ruin many good people. What starts off as recreational use can develope into an addiction. When u say one more time wont hurt its that thinking that will leed u to addiction and trust me it grabs u by the balls!

Yeah, I know it isn't healthy thinking, but there's a reason it's considered one of the hardest drugs to kick. I haven't even been using all that long, and yet I can't pass up free shit or bring myself to flush it.

 

[Znegative]

Methamphetamine doesn't really cause a physical withdrawal syndrome-it (and other stimulants) basically just depletes your brain of a lot/all (depending on duration of use and ammount) of it's own neurotransmitters responsible for things that would normally naturally make you happy or feel pleasure, such as dopamine and seretonin. I honestly don't think that with only a month or less of using that you would fry your brain out to the point where you'd need an amphetamine to be able to feel happy again or function, unless you've been using every day. However, you should take the advice given here by those who have dealt with addiction as it's very easy, from my point of view (having been addicted and dependant on multiple drugs-though I never had enough access to crystal meth thank god to become completely enslaved like I have been multiple times with IV cocaine) to see when someone is starting to walk that dangerous line between experimentation and abuse, which can lead quickly to dependence. I don't want to say YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME AN ADDICT! But I will say that if you continue down this path it's not unlikely that you'll find yourself (sooner rather than later) shooting yourself up and stealing to support your habit. Drug addiction creates a drive within you that places substances above things such as food and water. It's really a wicked thing to be dependant on any chemical.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

This is what I was worried about. I get pretty depressed sometimes, and have anxiety issues. I wasn't depressed or even irritable on the comedown. I was just tired for the weekend.

If you don't mind my asking, how long did you use before quitting? I'm just a bit over a month off and on myself.

I did it for about 9 months (might have been 12 months?), only taking a day off every other week towards the end.

yet I can't pass up free shit or bring myself to flush it.

It's hard to say no to drugs when someone is literally handing them to you for free. I actually have said "no" to free heroin at least 2-3 times after I quit it. It was insanely hard to say no though. You can work on the ability to say no to it the more time you have away from the drug.

 

[MrSexypancake]

I know I have a problem with saying no, but I can't see myself stealing to support a habit. I also could never see myself shooting up. More so than the crystal, I enjoy the physical action of smoking it, and watching the smoke swirl around. Plus, shooting sounds risky as hell to me, and I have no clue where to get needles.

 

[Derschieber]

I know I have a problem with saying no, but I can't see myself stealing to support a habit. I also could never see myself shooting up. More so than the crystal, I enjoy the physical action of smoking it, and watching the smoke swirl around. Plus, shooting sounds risky as hell to me, and I have no clue where to get needles.

Almost all addicts, those that steal or sell their bodies in the street to support their addiction, those that inject themselves daily...they at one time could not see themselves doing those things ever...the only way you can make sure to avoid a bad outcome is to stop using drugs. Be very careful. If you're not already addicted, not using for a couple of months should not be a problem, right? Not even when someone gives you free drugs...should not even be any problem...nothing you think twice about...and if it's 3 or 6 months...this should not mean anything to you...only already it means something...you're talking a few days, and already it is something significant in your life, in your mind, in your day...not using is already something other that "easy".

Personally I would say to you that you know you are in trouble with this thing...that's why you write about it. Well done. Indeed you are in trouble. Not using will not be easy for you, because you are addicted.
Best wishes.