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For those just interested in the 'Tik Tok' video itself without the contextual pre - commentary please forward to 1 minute and 50 seconds from which the original recording plays in full.

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Dude is bursting with impregnated conditioned attitude and totally oblivious where it came from.

If I “get” Covid, (which I did), I’ll not be running to the hospital, which as it happens is about 100 metres from my house, (handy for bad trips lol), I’ll be running away from it.

We’re heading to collect another part of our own self supplied hospital shortly, the Ivermectin.

Hospitals. More like Jokeitals.

Again, was typing more, BL deleted it damn after my mum came and interrupted me.

I was saying, seriously now, people really really need to wake up start taking the onus upon themselves, use the available information out there, learn to start treating their own COVID themselves at home, 100 times more reliably safely, and effectively than any hospital is capable or or interested in doing, nor the least bit “equipped”.

Only lung destroying ventilators. And what else exactly? Luck! Really.

No…proven effective Hydroxy, Ivermenctin, and the rest.

I just need to ensure I have spare working electrical leads, a supply of batteries, supply of essential oils, oil of oregano, vitamin C and D and now soon the Ivermectin.

Everybody could have this. Everybody could be using Electromedicine at home, for pennies, and no fucking body would be dying from the respiratory Covid, nor any identifiable localised spot.

To go to hospital with Covid…that is “taking your chances”, BIIIG time. Small hopes.

To use Electromedicine at home, it’s almost a guarantee of swift elimination of Covid from all airways no damage done, Long C is different but immunity is acquired from the single infection, at least in the unvaccinated but there are double jabbed people, getting it a second or third time.

Then we have the phoney PCR diagnosis, which Vega Testing would replace in a heartbeat but for big F’ing Pharma.

I know what I’m talking about here very well when I speak of these very very fast, safe, effective cures and treatments for something we naturally acquire immunity to once we have had it once, except, seriously, this principle seems only to apply more consistently to the Un effing vaccinated.

I’ve as much bursting passion as that fuming man above. But he knows Jack Jack shit, is an unconscious pawn, a future Nazi supporter, they are mounting ranks fast!

I’ll I take my chances with a broken leg if I’m unwelcome for a few hours one day to cast it, even if I die in the curb. I’m ready to go down with the rest of us Vermin who will be kicked to the gutter in unanimous contempt by a large portion of society soon enough.
 
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This is getting seriously fucked up again. I read from a Facebook friend that they're mandating vaccines in NYC to get into bars, restaurants, basically everywhere. I have no idea how it will be enforced, but I'm guessing there's now going to be some sort of show me your papers type of situation in many private establishments (because it's required by law now). It's fucking terrifying honestly, and they're requiring vaccinations over what? A virus with a 0.3% mortality rate? It's insanity.
 
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This is getting seriously fucked up again. I read from a Facebook friend that they're mandating vaccines in NYC to get into bars, restaurants, basically everywhere. I have no idea how it will be enforced, but I'm guessing there's now going to be some sort of show me your papers type of situation in many private establishments (because it's required by law now). It's fucking terrifying honestly, and they're requiring vaccinations over what? A virus with a 0.3% mortality rate? It's insanity.
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Yea but the NYC that i was born and raised in did whatever it wanted, no matter who said what that thought they were in charge....

so yea idk about all that
 

The world may never reach herd immunity against COVID-19​


Aug. 16, 2021 at 9:16 am

“Will we get to herd immunity? No, very unlikely, by definition,” said Greg Poland, director of the Vaccine Research Group at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.

Even a vaccination rate of as high as 95% wouldn’t achieve it, he said. “It is a neck and neck race between the development of ever more highly transmissible variants which develop the capacity to evade immunity, and immunization rates.”

Others are now throwing in the towel, with Indonesia most vocally leading the way. The world’s fourth-most populous nation determined that it would be impossible to stop the virus even if everyone in the country was immunized.

www.seattletimes.com

The world may never reach herd immunity against COVID-19

Despite evidence that it will be difficult or impossible to reach herd immunity against COVID-19, many public health officials aren't giving up. But the world is unlikely to put the pandemic behind it until 2022 at the earliest, experts say.
www.seattletimes.com www.seattletimes.com



so then i ask again....why do i need a shot?
 
I'm not getting a booster of a vaccine after 8 months when the last dose of it made me violently ill. The alternative (a.k.a. taking this horrendous "vaccine" again) is utterly absurd. Are they trying to kill us with this stuff? Seriously, WTF is the goal here? What are they going to say next? Get a new experimental vaccine every month, every week, maybe even every day? It's absolute madness, and I'm done playing along. Because why? I think this whole thing has likely been a bit overblown, but the fact that they're already recommending a third dose of this mystery concoction is really a bridge too far.
 
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I see. So no budget is even needed for such camps (I should have said FEMA in hindsight as that’s kind of what I meant and is applicable to more recent current times, and would not have drawn up the same level of objectionable connotations.

Because we are simply destined to be wiped out by not choosing wisely and immunising our silly selves before this beast wipes us away from the sidelines.

If that’s the suggestion. An even more extreme and bizarre, and outright unlikelier eventuality than the one I posited.
 
alasdairm said:
this seems like a non sequitor - i wonder if a post was removed.



what on earth are you talking about?

alasdair
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It was a response to the Wizard’s apparent assertion that no stray flock will actually need rounding up because we will inevitably all succumb eventually by not making the right decisions now or in time.

I may very well have missed the actual meaning but it was very sarcastic and patronising I would argue in tone and prose, so I was admittedly reading between lines a bit there. That’s just what it appeared to mean, having observed a growing contempt for and fury with those who still say no from the member recently too.
 
alasdairm said:
to me, your 'might happen' talk of concentration camps for unvaxxed/antivax citizens is irresponsible fear-mongering.

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Well, okay, but come on. Are you really saying that remark is going to actually instil fear into anyone? I mean, what level of influence at all do I personally have here? Not much not any really.

Now I’ll admit, I’m not proud of how I have conducted myself on occasions recently.

There’s no excuse. But making people afraid is not something I aspire to truthfully.
It is not at all off the cards in terms of probability and possibility, eventually, for that sector of society to be completely excluded from, blocked access to all aspects of modern society.

One shift at a time. Things have moved very quickly. Stigma has been driven in an unexpected but not really I guess way for me personally.

And there is seemingly growing hatred, objection to, and distaste towards….


It’s growing increasingly popular, again it seems, to strongly support the notion of denying unvaxxed Covid patients into hospitals.

Which I don’t object to actually. Because I’ve no faith in the hospital’s way of treating it. I can honestly do a far better job at home, as I did, and many like minded people just not on this forum are too.

But the anger in some now, the protest and demand. I do envisage potentially, as incrementally lawful access to society is reduced, to the furthest extreme.

Well that is a pretty extreme scenario, who nobody would have envisaged before all this, well many would, likely did, but that’s a separate matter.

So where does it stop? Okay I used an unpopular and extreme example. Because that would be the potential end line.

It concerns me that the unjabbed have not stopped loving their fellow human being, regardless of jab status, but there is a cultural fear and actual hate as result of anger towards the non compilers. This concerns me, it could, would surely grow.

Especially if the eventually excluded outsiders were really painted as the greatest, number one, and only real threat to life and society, beyond Climate Change, going forward.

I wish I had more faith in people’s humanity. This is what I’m reacting to, the scorn, protest, growing outright condemnation. Hence me going over.

I am sorry for nerves which were touched.
 
well, things are both absolute and relative.

i think we should try to stick to facts where possible. this is not a left/right, vax/antivax issue for me - people across the spectrum of this issue are misrepresenting, misinforming, inflaming and so on.

i'd ask you to consider what's the contribution to the dialog of a statement suggesting that the government might round up the unvaccinated and put them on concentration camps? if you have evidence to suggest it will happen, present it.

you've told us, on more than one occasion, that the truth is important to you. how do you reconcile these two?

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It concerns me that the unjabbed have not stopped loving their fellow human being, regardless of jab status
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not my experience at all. i've seen vitriol, from unvaccinated people, in the direction of the vaccinated. it goes both ways.

alasdair
 
I can actually accept that. Except I’ve seen it more as criticism, and indeed mockery, neither I support or have intentionally projected.

But not exactly hatred, nor the same manner of fear at all either if any actually.

Personally, I’ve no negative emotions to anybody in relation to their societal class ranking.

I used that term, because this is a crux aspect of it to me. The willing to be jabbed are not seen as a lower class within the structure of society, nor are likely to be, in terms of rights and plain human worth.

But this is the precise angle I see the potential danger developing, a lower class of citizens, which if firmly established and identified, may well lead to further stigmatising, outcasting, complete lack of care for with full belief it’s fair and humane.

I’m not an extremist touting for extremist ideologies. I oppose them. Hence my objection to the hatred and gross divide on both sides I’ll admit, because I still treat my friends, neighbours and all with the same respect and care I always have.

I can’t argue this with you. I don’t intend to annoy, aggravate, infuriate. I care again, about all people. I do care about the truth. I will not, again not, stand by and repeat any single thing I know to be a lie.

I won’t save face one bit if you get me, I’ll come clean the moment I discoverI was very wrong on whatever in question.

I hope to on time, to whatever degree I can. The fullest would be my wish.

I’m just arguing for my own seen good cause. I’m not nearly alone on that.

I’m just antagonisingly vocal and loudmouth, in the wrong crowd essentially.

I will really try and stay out of here for my own better mental health and the appreciation of many I’m sure, but you have all been decent and cool and polite as I’ve tried to be mostly myself.
 
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