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pfizer gives chicks bigger tits.

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birdup.snaildown said:
If there was no life, wouldn't you have to ask the opposite question? (What is the point of there being no life?) Perhaps there is no point to anything. I don't see why that matters. Humans need to stop looking at things in terms of functionality. We've been using tools too long.

Life is better than no life. It's as simple as that, for me. I'd rather humans exist than not exist. Existence is so beautiful, it doesn't need to justify itself. The mystery is part of the beauty anyway.
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I’m not practically advocating for deliberate extinction. I just cannot support such irrational fascist extremism.

I would however, not at all just for my own sake, but for love of my dog, and humanity and life in general, much rather we were just nuked all on one, than every single household boarded up with wooden planks to simply cry, starve and beat each other to death.

That was basically the projected strategy and would be intention given the power to implement.

It’s alarmingly extremist and fundamentally irrational to my mind. I would rather we all just died than try to (damn auto correct missed up this sentence, swapped several words out I can’t recall how I put it now so…) a globally collective miserable living existence upon every reachable being.

That was my point. I would never advocate either, but I know which one I would pick if I had to.

It’s total madness. Who boards up Adolph’s planks? Well actually that’s easy, we have robots that can do the work of 5 men and don’t need a break.
 
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Me too.
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I hope you would pick with me but I’m not making assumptions.

The evilness of such preposterousness just shocks me. To speak promoting peace and love, then Die you dirty little parasitic humans in your own misery and shit who do you think you are my ancestors….

That is just not the way to go about this.

In a year’s time, this discussion will surely take a different course if it still runs, depending on who is still here or not, who has or hasn’t done what.

It’s so early still, we each thoroughly mistrust opposite sources, labelling each as propaganda.

BBC is pure subtle and blatant propaganda to my, to billions, at least multi-millions, it’s gospel.

So I am more inclined to believe a well kempt man dressed up in suit and glasses, and a mock up NSW statement booth, than the MSM genocide peddlers.

In a year, surely a lot will be clearer.

I’m personally very interested to see what is the case, longterm, regarding lasting immunity after Covid infection.

I’ll get myself clear, and see how soon or not I catch Covid again.

I’ve possibly not been free if it for 9 months plus, it’s taken a toll, but is heading out.

So I can at least watch and learn from this. I just need to eradicate it fully first then time will tell, if I have the time.

By fascist extremism, I referred to shutting every living soul in their homes against will, not nuking.

That would obviously fit the same bill, but is still kinder IMO.

I don’t see this life and plain as the end myself.
 
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There is no such thing as evil. It reminds me of how we used to say people were possessed by demons. I don't see any evil with COVID. I see misguided decision making. I may disagree with these people, but that doesn't make them evil.

Evil isn't a helpful term.

I'm no fan of news media either, but I don't believe they are evil. I know people who work in news media. They are driven by money rather than ethics, perhaps... but so are many industries.

This virus is an unfortunate situation and it's a fucking witch hunt out there, so the blame game is inevitable.

At the end of the day, our enemy is a virus not a man.
 
well said birdup :)


though I kind of wonder with some people posting things like vaccination makes you impotent.

I can understand fear or even rejection of vaccination but to out and out lie so you can cause

pain and death in the community is not good.

in all other cases you would not be able to get a needle in me having had a spinal tap as a child.

also being kung fu and qigong I just don't get sick and I mean in over 10 years.

but this time it was not about me.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
There is no such thing as evil. It reminds me of how we used to say people were possessed by demons. I don't see any evil with COVID. I see misguided decision making. I may disagree with these people, but that doesn't make them evil.

Evil isn't a helpful term.

I'm no fan of news media either, but I don't believe they are evil. I know people who work in news media. They are driven by money rather than ethics, perhaps... but so are many industries.

This virus is an unfortunate situation and it's a fucking witch hunt out there, so the blame game is inevitable.

At the end of the day, our enemy is a virus not a man.
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I disagree, just my own view, I’m not rebutting your own I’m no God.

But I do believe in evil, literally possessing a person’s mind and heart, as can joy.

The virus is our enemy, but so are factions of humanity, not driven by good or positive intentions.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
The only faction of humanity I'm really concerned about ATM is people spreading misinformation about this virus, but I don't consider you (or Krinkles) evil.
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I can respect that, except I think there are far more harmful and dangerous factions of humanity who are not openly posting on forums having an unseen negative sway and impact on life on this planet.

To rationalise for example, that the genuinely intented people who don’t trust governments and MSM sources and various programmes, are the only type, group, categorisation of people to be concerned about, that’s reminding me suddenly of Biden lol!

I know you don’t mean that totally literally in that sense. It’s just your primary objection and focus on the main light.
 
I don't believe in villains. People do things for many reasons. Evil isn't one of them. Sometimes it's hard to understand why people do things, like Jeffrey Dahmer and Vlad the Impaler. Most of the time it isn't hard to understand. I understand when people use the word evil to describe Dahmer. I don't understand why he did what he did. I like to think he isn't evil, just very confused.

The Taliban is worse than anti vaxxers obviously but I don't live in Afghanistan so they don't bother me much.
 
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yep cause and effect.

its been like this since the start of time.

my clan says this and I am loyal.

my past leads me to respect these people even if they are wrong.
 
I just flicked to channel 5 Jeremy Vine, the on screen topic is “Selfish not to take the vaccine.”

It’s gone off screen now, but I don’t think there was a question mark!

Which is relevant. My subconscious is so used to how these things are usually presented, I would always expect a ? mark there normally.

Anyway, I missed one caller, who it sounded was a right conspiracy head stirring a reaction in the studio.

But the next lady was on phone. Josie. She pleaded passionately for the vaccine, how amazing it is that we have it, how heads would be raging if we didn’t.

How she’s always been very vigilant and even more so because she’s a voluntary carer for somebody.

And she’s a very down to earth person.

She strongly rejected the “nonsense” that it’s not selfish.

She was initially introduced to Jeremy Vine the show host, as somebody with Covid at the moment.

She was arguing very strongly in favour of the vaccines, and speaking of their merit.

And, she announced that she has had both of her vaccines, the second one in May. She continued to singe about having to self isolate currently.

Even Jeremy Vine, started to raise his eyebrows as one of the panel had clearly I was able to ascertain by the studio reactions and commentary, had been presenting the case regarding the number of people phoning in in the same situation.

It just struck me, you may just say she was an actor. It was her actual angle nobody could quite understand.

She was saying how horrible Covid is, how she never thought it would get her, and how selfish it is people not taking the vaccine.

So if we can at least accept, this does happen, then perhaps we are deferred back to the existing argument for those few people the vaccine is ineffective.

Quite a few people. Not excluding me, for all anybody can say, again.

Nobody, no doctor, Pfizer executive, can assure me for certain that the vaccine will protect me and therefore others from infection, nor myself from any level of adverse event, whatever the alleged odds, right through to death.

Those are my very valid logical reasons to argue it’s not selfish, from my point of view, based on this reality, to say no.

I just watched this on live TV. I’ve seen, it heard it repeatedly. They had clearly already been discussing this, and had not been able to dismiss it, giving it due consideration it seemed apparent.
 
stop watching tv and for fucks sake don't listen to social media.

read journals and really make your own mind up.

when you come back with references that have a reasonable impact rating I shall bow my head in

shame.

not social sciences they are cheating as they reference each other like dogs sniff buts.

social is not science is psuedo (not the good pse type)

stop "beeing" a dupe and find the truth your self I have had enough of the rubbish people say

with out even knowing what impact rating means.

when you can out reference me with impact and the math sings true I shall take back that

if you use illegal drugs and do not get a vacine your a fuckwit with no brains or maybe a 4th gen meth addict.

we do have to forgive some you know :)

IMPACT RATING GOT IT.

GOOD

now shall we really play or am I going to get silence again.

 
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That’s just a ridiculous response. I avoid the news and mainstream programmes, phone in live debate main channel talk shows like this which are aggressively pro vaccination, Jeremy Vine is usually extremely intimidating, belittling and mocking to anybody trying to argue against an vaccination.

This is NOT Instagram.

It’s the real world, right now.

I’m just reporting it. So are so many.

But here we see it, exactly. It’s just dismissed. We won’t even entertain such discussion. Don’t say things like that. Only Boris Johnson has that authority.

Denying the reality that people are getting Covid after double jabs.

I’m not a meth addict no. I just took a lot of LSD and developed a benzo addiction to manage severe anxiety disorder.

There’s nothing wrong with cannabis or kava, both of which I use medicinally.

I’m not a scum bag shitty irresponsible glue sniffing renegade, who has therefore, along with endangering the world who are themselves choosing to receive full protection, turned myself into an even lower, less worthy and more despicable lifeform.

None of this is at all personal. Honestly. That was the gist I caught after I feel I was simply expressing or displaying critical thinking on my own part, after having been more than invited to do exactly that.
 
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So, for future, if my good neighbour, who I know and trust well, who has had both jabs, tells me she is positive for Covid and self isolating, can we discuss that without a peer reviewed journal?

The world lives, exists, develops outside of peer reviewed journals and scientific proof, is my point.

@prince_igor i made typo above, corrected now if you already read, important one.
 
impact rating mate.

"we" can not lie

as we are tested and then published

of course you can give a pseudo answer but give me something real please.

not some pathetic we live out side of tv electronics chemistry science knowledge.

really you don't get a vax big deal but I am telling the truth and any that wishes to follow

my path will look and really look.

so many ask how to do shit from me.

so I am telling you how.

give me journal articles with impact and then do the math and lets talk.

now back it up.
 
prince_igor said:
impact rating mate.

"we" can not lie

as we are tested and then published
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I Don’t dispute you on that, and knowing you stand for integrity reassures me.

But we can’t just call every Tom, Dick and Sally on the street, news channels, YouTube, Social Media….liers, forever.
 
no we can not shall I give you some that have integrity as well :)

I am saying that most do not know who to listen to.

and honestly if you do not test what you know you are not following method.

trust no one.

and with druggies like me especially your self.
 
prince_igor said:
no we can not shall I give you some that have integrity as well :)

I am saying that most do not know who to listen to.

and honestly if you do not test what you know you are not following method.

trust no one.

and with druggies like me especially your self.
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Actually, I see that as potentially unproductive and blocking.

I know what you mean, but I would put it- be prepared to mistrust anyone, and also to trust anyone.

With zero trust anywhere ever, we have total stalemate even “when the right one walks though the door” to quote David Gilmour with an edit.

And prince_igor I’ve honestly nothing against you personally. If I’m fiery, it’s in passion for the topic, not in retaliation personally.

I doubt my previously good friend here TripSitter will likely converse with me again.

I tried not to comment, but it was again entirely non personal. I like to think we can be mature enough to speak our minds and hearts on matters where we hold even radically different views, without it being viewed or taken as personal.
 
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