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Fauci Says It Could Be a Year Before Theater Without Masks Feels Normal

Dr. Anthony Fauci said a vaccine would need to exist for nearly a year before people might feel comfortable returning to theaters unmasked, which he said would likely be mid- to late 2021.

Broadway theaters have been closed since March 12. Some productions have set dates to reopen in March and April 2021.Credit...David S. Allee for The New York Times
By Sarah Bahr

As theaters look to see how they might reopen with safety accommodations including mask use, Dr. Anthony Fauci says it will likely be more than a year before people feel comfortable returning to theaters without masks.
“If we get a really good vaccine and just about everybody gets vaccinated,” he said in an Instagram Live interview with Jennifer Garner on Wednesday, “you’ll have a degree of immunity in the general community that I think you can walk into a theater without a mask and feel like it’s comfortable that you’re not going to be at risk.”
He said that would likely not be until mid- to late 2021.
But that doesn’t mean he is saying when it would be safe to go to the theater without a mask. Dr. Fauci, the country’s leading infectious disease expert, clarified in a phone interview on Friday that he was referring to when people could return to theatergoing at their pre-coronavirus comfort levels. “Words like ‘safe’ are charged,” he said. “I’m talking about the general trend of when we’ll start to feel comfortable going back to normal if we get a safe and effective vaccine.”

Dr. Fauci said that although a vaccine might be available as early as the end of this year or the beginning of 2021, it would likely be well into next year before enough people were vaccinated to ensure broad protection.

But Dr. Fauci said that in green-zone areas — those with very low community transmission — indoor theaters may be able to return sooner if people wear masks. “As long as there is infection in the community, you do not want indoor spaces with crowds,” he said Friday. “But in states, cities or counties in the green zone with low levels of infection, I imagine theaters could maybe open at 25 percent capacity, with people wearing masks, sometime as early as next year.”

Experts said Dr. Fauci’s comments help set the expectation that the coronavirus will be around for some time. “We should not be thinking of the vaccine as a silver bullet,” Dr. Leana Wen, an emergency physician and public health professor at George Washington University who previously served as Baltimore’s health commissioner, said Friday. “It will take months to vaccinate hundreds of millions of people, and the vaccine may be, at best, 75 percent effective.”
Dr. Peter Hotez, the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, said the first vaccines “are not magic solutions.”
“So we’ll likely still need to continue masks and contact tracing,” he said.
The Broadway League said in a statement on Friday that it would continue to put the health of employees and audiences first as it works to help theaters reopen. “We are working closely with medical experts and members of Governor Cuomo’s recovery team to ensure that all proper health and safety protocols will be in place when the time comes to reopen our theaters,” it said.

Producers have said they will refund all tickets purchased for performances through Jan. 3. Some Broadway theaters are hoping to reopen as soon as March — the earliest planned opening night right now is for the Tracy Letts play “The Minutes,” which is currently set for March 15.
Two more shows, a revival of David Mamet’s play “American Buffalo” and a new show about Michael Jackson, “MJ the Musical,” aim to follow nearly a month later on April 14 and 15. The much-anticipated revival of “The Music Man,” headlined by Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, which was originally set for the fall, now plans to open May 20.



Fauci Admits Trump Has Been Saying Things About COVID That 'Obviously' Aren't True
BY DANIEL VILLARREAL ON 9/11/20 AT 6:06 PM EDT
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In a Friday TV interview, national infectious diseases expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said that Republican President Donald Trump's repeated declarations that COVID-19 would just disappear were "obviously" untrue based on epidemic data.

MSNBC anchorperson Andrea Mitchell asked Fauci about his disbelief that Trump had distorted key findings from the White House's COVID-19 task force in daily coronavirus briefings.
Mitchell asked Fauci if he still felt the president hadn't distorted information in light of the president's recently revealed comments to journalist Bob Woodward in which he said, "I want to always play [COVID-19] down, I still like playing it down."

"After hearing that, hearing those tapes, with him acknowledging that, do you still believe he was not trying to distort the reality?" Mitchell asked Fauci.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testifies before a House Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis hearing on July 31, 2020 in Washington, DC.KEVIN DIETSCH-POOL/GETTY
Fauci said that he's been asked the question before and said, "There were times when I was out there telling the American public how difficult this is, how we're having a really serious problem, you know, and the president was saying it's something that's going to disappear, which obviously is not the case."

Fauci called these discrepancies "disagreements in what we say and what comes out from the White House."
However, Fauci also told Mitchell that he disagreed with Trump's comments on Thursday that the epidemic had "rounded the final turn" in the United States.

Fauci disagreed with Trump's assessment, calling the current data "disturbing."
"We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases, a day," Fauci said, "and the deaths are around 1,000."
A White House spokesperson told Newsweek, "The President is making the point that our mortality rate is going down, case numbers are going down, and that we are in a better position now than we were in at the beginning of this pandemic as it relates to PPE, therapeutics, and vaccines."

Fauci expressed particular worry that case numbers had increased nationwide following Fourth of July and Labor Day gatherings, right before the colder fall and winter months force people indoors into closer proximity with one another, something that "absolutely" helps respiratory diseases spread.
Mitchell then asked Fauci his opinion of Trump's rallies where attendees largely don't wear masks nor social distance from one another.
"If you're outdoors and you're crowded together, and you don't have a mask, the chances of a respiratory transmission of a virus, clearly, are there," Fauci said.

Mitchell then cited a recent study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stating that people who tested positive for COVID were twice a likely to have dined at a restaurant in the weeks before becoming sick.
Fauci reiterated his belief that the U.S. may have a vaccine before the end of the year, but added that society won't get "back to a degree of normality" until "well into 2021, maybe even towards the end of 2021" seeing as it will take time to mobilize the distribution of the vaccinations and get the majority of the population vaccinated.

Update (9/11/2020, 6:22 p.m.): This article has been updated to include a statement from the White House.

This is why Trump is a horrible person. Trump makes a comment saying "we're rounding the corner," with no context. Any average person will take that to believe we're rounding the corner on the virus.

When it reality, it's limited to something we all already know, and not rounding the corner on the virus itself:

A White House spokesperson told Newsweek, "The President is making the point that our mortality rate is going down, case numbers are going down, and that we are in a better position now than we were in at the beginning of this pandemic as it relates to PPE, therapeutics, and vaccines."
 
The number of fatalities per capita in the U.K. has now surpassed that in Italy. The only countries with more fatalities per capita than the U.K. are now Belgium, Spain, and the micro-states San Marino and Andorra.
The distribution of hardest-hit countries has changed drastically in the past few months, with the epicentre having moved largely from Western Europe toward the Americas.

Countries with over 500 cumulative fatalities per million residents (September 16th)
 
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This is why Trump is a horrible person. Trump makes a comment saying "we're rounding the corner," with no context. Any average person will take that to believe we're rounding the corner on the virus.

When it reality, it's limited to something we all already know, and not rounding the corner on the virus itself:
Fauci downplayed the virus and then went on USA news channels acting like a hero.

list of everything the Dems did:

-had a public temper tantrum and acted like cry babies during state of the union when President elect Donald Trump mentioned Chinese coronavirus which they completely ignored.
-focus on impeachment for a crime which never happened and that was made up, instead of focusing on the Chinese coronavirus.
-Tell everyone to go out into the streets, travel, and riot and protest and say nothing about wearing masks, staying socially distant, or practising basic hygeine.
-Calling a travel ban from Wuhan China the centre of the disease, and ban from travel from all of China and East and South/inner Asian countries 'racist'
-Keep needed supplies in warehouses
-Complain they never got supplies after saying they no longer needed them
-Complain they never have enough supplies
-say nothing about wearing masks when in public which people have stopped doing
-Forbid people from buying certain things at retail stores
-Forbid people from buying alcohol
-Extend their policies every time the current deadline looms
-Blame all their failures on President Trump
-open up democrat run large cities
-they did not shut down large cities fast enough or in time.
-put Chinese coronavirus infected people into nursing homes or hospital facilities for the elderly in Democrat run large cities in the USA.

 
Politicians are calling this the 2nd wave in my area. I'm skeptical that the Science says closer to December when Flu season hits. It seems the propaganda is running deep. Anyone have any further predictions? I feel antsy that shit goes like Contagion and there are food rations and looting.
 
Are you in Canada? I saw that the the other day. It would make sense it would hit Canada before the US if your temperatures are lower than ours, first.
 
fauci didn't downplay the virus he was the one tellling everybody to lockdown etc but trump downplayed it as is recorded on video he knew it was bad and pretty much said its nothing nobody is going to die and we are not going to lockdown its just another flu and now america is in the state it is.
 
So, shame on me for not realizing I'd get this ridiculous nonsense.

Data doesn't support masks due to lack of scientific studies in the beginning, Fauci accurately relays this. Updated data shows mask efficacy, Fauci updated and accurately relays this, as well.

What data did Trump accurately relay? Oh, that's right...
 
So, shame on me for not realizing I'd get this ridiculous nonsense.

Data doesn't support masks due to lack of scientific studies in the beginning, Fauci accurately relays this. Updated data shows mask efficacy, Fauci updated and accurately relays this, as well.

What data did Trump accurately relay? Oh, that's right...
Fauci lied, 200,000+ people died. Fauci has contradicted himself many times and said it was fine for people to riot as this Asian explains:



Fauci in April: Don't wear a mask. There is absolutely no reason to wear one.

Fauci now: Wear a mask to protect yourself and others.


"Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask." -- Fauci

Even the "It's just the flu, bro" people took COVID-19 more seriously than Fauci who said the flu is a greater concern than COVID-19:

Fauci doesn't want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is "just minuscule." But he does want them to take precautions against the "influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave."

And Fauci said in the same article:

"I was getting calls from people in Sacramento saying, 'Can I get on an airplane to go to Seattle?'" Fauci said. "Like, what? What does that got to do with anything?"
 
So, shame on me for not realizing I'd get this ridiculous nonsense.

Data doesn't support masks due to lack of scientific studies in the beginning, Fauci accurately relays this. Updated data shows mask efficacy, Fauci updated and accurately relays this, as well.

What data did Trump accurately relay? Oh, that's right...

Don't expect him to ever concede a point to you. If you school him on one thing he will just pivot to some other nonsense.
 
I have a friend in the UK and she's telling me that the PM is thinking about locking down the country again. She said that she agrees with them because of the number of cases etc.
I am afraid to even think about how the US is going about Covid. For starters my employer had scheduled a type of employee appreciation event where they are telling us it is mandatory, and that is the last fucking thing we need is not but 2weeks after someone on staff testing + for Covid fuck it let's get everyone together in a closed off area and give awards to the staff that work 1st shift.
Personally going on lock down again wont effect me much because I gota work regardless, it will just upset me knowing that some people bitch about working from home etc while some of us other folk that don't get the luxury to work from home have to break curfew to go to work & risk running into an angry AF BLM crowd. but sure fuck it, everyone get together to celebrate the 'i have arrived' people.
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I have a friend in the UK and she's telling me that the PM is thinking about locking down the country again. She said that she agrees with them because of the number of cases etc.
I am afraid to even think about how the US is going about Covid. For starters my employer had scheduled a type of employee appreciation event where they are telling us it is mandatory, and that is the last fucking thing we need is not but 2weeks after someone on staff testing + for Covid fuck it let's get everyone together in a closed off area and give awards to the staff that work 1st shift.
Personally going on lock down again wont effect me much because I gota work regardless, it will just upset me knowing that some people bitch about working from home etc while some of us other folk that don't get the luxury to work from home have to break curfew to go to work & risk running into an angry AF BLM crowd. but sure fuck it, everyone get together to celebrate the 'i have arrived' people.
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It should be illegal to have people working in those conditions during a pandemic.
 
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Don't expect him to ever concede a point to you. If you school him on one thing he will just pivot to some other nonsense.
I admit I am not always correct or perfect as no-one is, but when I show evidence and proof of how Fauci and USA CDC lied and completely contradicted themselves and how Democrat politicians in the USA completely ignored the Chinese coronavirus, did not advocate social distancing, masks or basic hygiene, and called travel bans from East and South Asia which were centres of disease pandemic "racist", and focused on impeachment of something that never happened and was not a crime you refuse to even investigate or look at the facts, science, or evidence because it is not from a USA leftist source or does not fit into your ORANGE MAN BAD narrative, personal identity, and worldview.
 
I have a friend in the UK and she's telling me that the PM is thinking about locking down the country again. She said that she agrees with them because of the number of cases etc.
I am afraid to even think about how the US is going about Covid. For starters my employer had scheduled a type of employee appreciation event where they are telling us it is mandatory, and that is the last fucking thing we need is not but 2weeks after someone on staff testing + for Covid fuck it let's get everyone together in a closed off area and give awards to the staff that work 1st shift.
Personally going on lock down again wont effect me much because I gota work regardless, it will just upset me knowing that some people bitch about working from home etc while some of us other folk that don't get the luxury to work from home have to break curfew to go to work & risk running into an angry AF BLM crowd. but sure fuck it, everyone get together to celebrate the 'i have arrived' people.
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Can you tell your employer all of this? I have a friend in the UK in the major city. He works with the public and does not wear a mask at all, and he goes about life as normal, and does not have the virus.
 
Is it any wonder that there's no adherence to science in politics?

Science involves following the most supported course of action at a given time using the information known at that time.

Which of course means as more information is uncovered, the course of action required changes.

But when it does, idiots call it a contradiction cause they want simple absolutes. They want there to be one correct course of action known from day one, that remains the same forever.
 
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