Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)
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TheLoveBandit
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Googled for FOX and $1M per American, and the only hit I found was them showing the MSNBC broadcast that held up the tweet of bad math
Though, Fox wasn't the only ones to be disappointed with the MSNBC team
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So, NOT a mistake by FOX as you're making it, but maybe a MSNBC mistake. Though, when I hear it, I don't even take it as MSNBC being wrong. The person who tweeted the bad math was wrong, and the MSNBC talking heads said 'dont say anything if you are ahead of us on the math' (I take that to indicate they know it was wrong), and instead focus on the point which was a wasted $500m.
TheLoveBandit
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Because of three reasons:
- Big numbers are scarier, so the media runs with it
- America needs to keep believing it is the biggest, best at everything and this fits that narrative better
- Because per capita makes too much logical sense
btw, seems there is a bit of that (per capita) recently:
Jump to 1:35 where Dr. Birx nails a Yahoo reporter trying to 'gotcha' on testing.
Xorkoth
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Maybe it was MSNBC. I did, however, see a youtube video of two people on a news hour going on about it and referencing that same bad math, it was more than a mention. I couldn't find the video though, someone posted it in a thread somewhere on here I think but no telling where it might be.
Pentagon boosting US industrial capacity amid virus outbreak
The Pentagon is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on masks, tests and pharmaceutical products as it seeks to revive an industrial sector lost over the years to China.
To battle the coronavirus pandemic, the Defense Department has received one billion dollars under the Defense Production Act, which lets the federal government mobilize private industry to meet national security needs.
"The increased production will ensure the US government gets dedicated long term industrial capacity to help meet the needs of the nation," said Ellen Lord, undersecretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment.
"What I would like to see is the US have the capacity and throughput to take care of ourselves in times of need," Lord told reporters at a press conference on Thursday.
Lord acknowledged the US was overly dependent on China.
The Pentagon is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on masks, tests and pharmaceutical products as it seeks to revive an industrial sector lost over the years to China.
To battle the coronavirus pandemic, the Defense Department has received one billion dollars under the Defense Production Act, which lets the federal government mobilize private industry to meet national security needs.
"The increased production will ensure the US government gets dedicated long term industrial capacity to help meet the needs of the nation," said Ellen Lord, undersecretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment.
"What I would like to see is the US have the capacity and throughput to take care of ourselves in times of need," Lord told reporters at a press conference on Thursday.
Lord acknowledged the US was overly dependent on China.
Pentagon boosting US industrial capacity amid virus outbreak - France 24
Pentagon boosting US industrial capacity amid virus outbreak
This must surely count as one of the 'good' things to have happened as a result of realising how incredibly dependent the West is on Asia for its manufactured goods?
I hope other affected countries start to ramp up their own home-based production capacity as well. Every nation should be able to cater for at least some of the most important basics by itself and with its own supply chains.
Back home, it's been utterly cringe inducing to see that the UK still can't even mass produce a few items of plastic protective equipment for its health service any more, when once we used to produce more than two-thirds of the entire planet's manufactured goods.
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elon musk has once again proven he is a a complete retard telling people to go outside mass gather and protest the lockdowns and calling covid-19 a hoax and saying people aint dying from it hes a fucking retarded cunt they should storm telsa and steal them all and burn his house house then take all those billions and feed the poor with it he has.
Captain.Heroin
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Thank you.
It's important to question authorities and to know why they are trusted/credible as sources of information.
Captain.Heroin
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...what an idiot.
If anyone owes some back child support your stimulouse check will go entirety towards that.
Now you see how easy it is to use fear to manipulate populans. Im high risk and do not see enough justification for much of the US response.
Now you see how easy it is to use fear to manipulate populans. Im high risk and do not see enough justification for much of the US response.
Xorkoth
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The US's response is quite light compared to most of the world, except a couple of states.
JessFR
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And the results of it speak for itself.
Although.. I'd love to be wrong but I get the impression that the reason there are many people who don't think the shutdown is worth it... Is cause they really do kinda only give a shit about themselves.
I mean, either you think all those people literally aren't dying and it's all a fraud, in which case I'm not even gonna try an argue with someone living in another reality.
Or you know it's happening... And just don't feel it's worth preventing. Which I think is pretty horrible.
Xorkoth
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The only reason I bring up how light it is, is to counter the arguments that the whole response is a sinister plot to take away our freedoms. If it were so, we'd have had our freedoms taken away by the federal government, and not just unenforced guidelines, the enforcement of which is left up to localities.
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I think they are that dumb that the tweet was "fact checked" by the guest, host and producers and they still ran with it thinking it was accurate.
Do you have a quote of him saying that?
I've just seen him talking sense about the secondary effects of the lockdowns. Yes he's running a company but his company will survive. Many others won't.
JGrimez
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Imperial College were used as justification for the lockdowns:
Imperial College Model Applied to Sweden Yields Preposterous Results
Decisions made on faulty data are bad decisions.
Imperial College Model Applied to Sweden Yields Preposterous Results
American Institute for Economic Resarch said:
Decisions made on faulty data are bad decisions.
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
Perhaps a surprising (and intentional from the Founding Fathers?) aspect is that the States have the authority for such guideline enforcement and setting their own rules? This prevents anyone in charge of the Federal government from implementing such a restriction on freedoms? I do know part of the intent, or an effect of this power-to-the states, is it allows both a localized reasoning to do what makes sense for that state (Alaska has different needs from NY), and it also allows for different approaches (trials) so decisions and results can be compared state to state to see what works and what doesn't as opposed to a one-size-fits all Federal answer.
So after analyzing the many conspiracies that are often touted by the theories supporters are very, very, strange. So maybe someone can clear this up for me. If:
1. The virus is not all that deadly as being said by experts, AND
2. The virus is a means of enforcing draconian measures for government control, THEN WHY WAS
3. The virus was the genetically engineered in a Chinese lab.
?
It seems to me that if the Chinese made a virus, then they would have made one that was very infectious and lethal. Would there be a need to fake death certificates if it was genetically engineered?
I feel that it cant go both ways. Either a lab made it and it would be pretty lethal, OR it came from nature and the world is hyping it up as people tout.
These statements that "The Chinese made this deadly virus and the government's around the world are using the man-made virus to take control of the world and Bill is funding this for population control. But P.S. the virus isnt really that deadly, they just made a shitty virus and we are using it to scare people" it just really doesnt make sense.
If the WIV released a new virus, and Bill Gates was behind the scenes, funding it for population control, wouldn't the virus actually be deadly and require these measures? Would numbers have to be faked at all? Too many of these theories step on the toes of the other theories that conspiracy theorists believe. I'm surprised that havent fell on their face already with how many times they have backpedaled and stepped on other theories that they supported just a few sentences ago.
1. The virus is not all that deadly as being said by experts, AND
2. The virus is a means of enforcing draconian measures for government control, THEN WHY WAS
3. The virus was the genetically engineered in a Chinese lab.
?
It seems to me that if the Chinese made a virus, then they would have made one that was very infectious and lethal. Would there be a need to fake death certificates if it was genetically engineered?
I feel that it cant go both ways. Either a lab made it and it would be pretty lethal, OR it came from nature and the world is hyping it up as people tout.
These statements that "The Chinese made this deadly virus and the government's around the world are using the man-made virus to take control of the world and Bill is funding this for population control. But P.S. the virus isnt really that deadly, they just made a shitty virus and we are using it to scare people" it just really doesnt make sense.
If the WIV released a new virus, and Bill Gates was behind the scenes, funding it for population control, wouldn't the virus actually be deadly and require these measures? Would numbers have to be faked at all? Too many of these theories step on the toes of the other theories that conspiracy theorists believe. I'm surprised that havent fell on their face already with how many times they have backpedaled and stepped on other theories that they supported just a few sentences ago.
F.U.B.A.R.
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It's not even suggested that the Wuhan Institute of Virology 'created' a new virus. But they were reportedly performing experiments on an existing bat virus which may have inadvertently escaped. Sensationalist conspiracy theorists may suggest it was an act of warfare, but was probably just a fuck up. Not surprising that their government would want to cover it up. Ours would do the same...
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
As FUBAR indicates, the idea of a constructed virus and/or an intentional release are only coming from the far corners of conspiracy world. More likely, there was an accidental release by the labs (likely) or a natural cause (unlikely, I believe) which routed out to the population and spread with increased global travel by people these days.
The separate, but also strongly laden with conspiracy motif, is the old phrase of 'never let a crisis go to waste' and so you see different world leaders using the opportunity to extend gov't reach and authority. If the virus isn't that bad, no reason to calm public fears too quickly while you're still using the open window of exercising over reach. If the virus really is that bad, the gov't needs to be cautious going forward which supports the appearance of over reach. Not an easy position for any gov't. But, a ripe field for conspiracists to spread suspicion and counter-fear. Up to the individuals to decide what to believe, when all things are possible.
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