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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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One of the most outspoken doctors on all of this Dr Shiva Ayyadurai



This was a very good interview (well, more like a monologue by Dr. Shiva), and should be viewed by as many as possible. There are many important points he makes, for instance:

- the immune system has many 'layers' of protective measures, if your IS is not compromised a virus is absolutely no threat (for that diet and supplementation is crucial). Which means that every expert should now be focusing on improving people's immune systems (of course it's not gonna happen 'cause Big Pharma wants to push their vaccines)

- the 'malaria cocktail' that is now promoted by Trump and others is only a short time solution, since the way it works appears to be that it kills bad bacteria and parasites and thus lessens the load of the immune system so that it can more effectively fight the virus

- the awareness and popularity of holistic and alternative ways of promoting people's health and sickness was growing steadily, but now this movement is halted and wiped away – which was one of the many purposes of this scheme

- the main instigator and director of how countries now conduct their lockdown, methods of treatment and other policies is the WHO.

My note: as we know with a high amount of certainty, the WHO of course gets its directives from higher above, but the WHO is the central hub from where medical experts who are not 'in the know' get their instructions, numbers, and categories on which they base their action. Right now I'm thinking that the WHO could be 'their' weakest link, and if the WHO's shady business and fake science could be exposed, that could bring the whole house of cards down.

ADDED: one thing that I'm not so sure about is Shiva's conviction that China was and is one of the bad guys, and that it's going to 'take over' the US. Sounds a bit off, but who knows...
 
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I'm old enough to remember 2003 Freedom Fries.



Sargon is on fine form lately outlining some of the ridiculous tyranny engulfing our beloved societies.
 
My grandma caught corona virus watched the above video and because of the mans advise at 18+ mins in did not go on resperator like dick wanted , Drank hot tea and did lung breathing expansion exercises and at 66 years old with auto immune diseases beat the covid 19 virus


Don't get on a Resperator unless dead
Drink tea and breath hot steam , heat kills the virus , steam opens up airways
Hit potato soup or any soup ? Breathing exercises

Doctors and government won't tell us these things watch video one at top of post first top to bottom video order other two won't make sense without watching first british couple video thanks be safe. 💖✌🏻🙏🏻💪🏻Watch video top to bottom









 
to all the people whining about "crippling the economy": maybe we need a better fucking system than one that crashes into oblivion when people cannot buy shit they don't actually need for sustenance for a few weeks.
 
Could you post %ages?

If 0.66% of the world dies of COVID-19 (and I don't know this # is accurate) it would be more people than have ever died of HIV.

What do you mean by ages? How that roughly 0.66% breaks down by age? I don't know, not everywhere is tracking by age.

But yes, even roughly half a percent mortality rate averaged out across the population would kill a LOT of people if even a large fraction of the population contracts it.
 
to all the people whining about "crippling the economy": maybe we need a better fucking system than one that crashes into oblivion when people cannot buy shit they don't actually need for sustenance for a few weeks.

It barely matters, the argument pretends that all the people dying will just have no economic impact when it most likely would.

It also argues that the economy collapsing would kill more people than the virus, now certainly it would kill people, nobody can deny that, but arguing that it'd kill MORE than the virus seems highly dubious. I've seen nothing yet that to me makes a persuasive argument to that effect.

The cynic in me thinks that argument is just cause they know saying "let em all die I NEED MY MONEY" is a tough sell.
 
What do you mean by ages? How that roughly 0.66% breaks down by age? I don't know, not everywhere is tracking by age.

But yes, even roughly half a percent mortality rate averaged out across the population would kill a LOT of people if even a large fraction of the population contracts it.

I believe he meant "percentages" by "%ages"
 
It barely matters, the argument pretends that all the people dying will just have no economic impact when it most likely would.

It also argues that the economy collapsing would kill more people than the virus, now certainly it would kill people, nobody can deny that, but arguing that it'd kill MORE than the virus seems highly dubious. I've seen nothing yet that to me makes a persuasive argument to that effect.

The cynic in me thinks that argument is just cause they know saying "let em all die I NEED MY MONEY" is a tough sell.
right on... it seems that people are forgetting that the economy tanking doesn't kill people. it's not a disease... people would commit suicide because our model of society let them down. but people seem to be ok with that possibility (it is inherent in the system all along, and it happens all the time) when it means buying shit as they please to ease their mind from existential dread
 
right on... it seems that people are forgetting that the economy tanking doesn't kill people. it's not a disease... people would commit suicide because our model of society let them down. but people seem to be ok with that possibility (it is inherent in the system all along, and it happens all the time) when it means buying shit as they please to ease their mind from existential dread

The reaction to the virus, not just economically but in other ways, will get people killed. I don't think that can really be disputed.

What I do think is probably impossible to sensibly argue is the suggestions that the numbers that will die will be anywhere near the number that would die letting the virus run its course. And there doesn't appear to be a third option that doesn't result in any individually avoidable deaths.

Economies serve people, people don't serve economies. People come first.

The economy will recover, the dead on the other hand remain dead.
 
to all the people whining about "crippling the economy": maybe we need a better fucking system than one that crashes into oblivion when people cannot buy shit they don't actually need for sustenance for a few weeks.

Hey that's not a bad idea. But making it worse and installing a new system where we are slaves isn't the solution.
 
Hey that's not a bad idea. But making it worse and installing a new system where we are slaves isn't the solution.
lol thanks for discussing things in good faith
The reaction to the virus, not just economically but in other ways, will get people killed. I don't think that can really be disputed.

What I do think is probably impossible to sensibly argue is the suggestions that the numbers that will die will be anywhere near the number that would die letting the virus run its course. And there doesn't appear to be a third option that doesn't result in any individually avoidable deaths.

Economies serve people, people don't serve economies. People come first.

The economy will recover, the dead on the other hand remain dead.
yeah I didn't dispute that people will suffer / die either way, I just hope more people might question the logic behind capitalism, because the way it is set up, people will inherently loose their existence when shit hits the fan. I mean there is still food, shelter, healthcare, even entertainment, art, whatever, and still people will get crushed. I would like to imagine a society which focusses more on giving all people a good and meaningful existence outside the hamster wheel which is more resilient to crisis than this shitshow we live in.
 
Nothing will be in close to accurate until the situation abates as we start looking at more unbiased data in the aftermath, IMO.

Agreed. Said it before, but not sure if in this thread: we won't know the true number of cases until there is antigen testing. I suspect the number of cases will be much larger than what is reported in official numbers, but most of them will be very mild.

All it takes is a scare from a virus to a turn a liberal into a fascist :)

How worryingly accurate this is too. Look how easy it is to get people to snitch on their neighbours and shame anyone who dares walk outside as if they're literally murdering people. And to get people to welcome authoritarianism with open arms as long as it's "for their own good." It's terrifying. Certainly the long-term effects of this balance between the state and people once this is all over concern me a lot more than a virus that kills 0.66% of people who get it.

to all the people whining about "crippling the economy": maybe we need a better fucking system than one that crashes into oblivion when people cannot buy shit they don't actually need for sustenance for a few weeks.

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right on... it seems that people are forgetting that the economy tanking doesn't kill people. it's not a disease... people would commit suicide because our model of society let them down. but people seem to be ok with that possibility (it is inherent in the system all along, and it happens all the time) when it means buying shit as they please to ease their mind from existential dread

The economy is not some kind of abstract concept made up by scientists, people literally rely on the economy to survive.
 
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Crocodiles on display for buyers at Huangsha seafood market in Guangzhou, Guandong province, China.


Ban wildlife markets to avert pandemics, says UN biodiversity chief

by Patrick Greenfield | The Guardian | 6 April 2020

Warning comes as destruction of nature increasingly seen as key driver of zoonotic diseases.

The United Nations’ biodiversity chief has called for a global ban on wildlife markets – such as the one in Wuhan, China, believed to be the starting point of the coronavirus outbreak – to prevent future pandemics.

Elizabeth Maruma Mrema, the acting executive secretary of the UN Convention on Biological Diversity, said countries should move to prevent future pandemics by banning “wet markets” that sell live and dead animals for human consumption, but cautioned against unintended consequences.

China has issued a temporary ban on wildlife markets where animals such as civets, live wolf pups and pangolins are kept alive in small cages while on sale, often in filthy conditions where they incubate diseases that can then spill into human populations. Many scientists have urged Beijing to make the ban permanent.

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Elizabeth Maruma Mrema, acting secretary of the UN Convention on Biological Diversity.

Using the examples of Ebola in west-central Africa and the Nipah virus in east Asia, Mrema said there were clear links between the destruction of nature and new human illnesses, but cautioned against a reactionary approach to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic.

“It would be good to ban the live animal markets as China has done and some countries. But we should also remember you have communities, particularly from low-income rural areas, particularly in Africa, which are dependent on wild animals to sustain the livelihoods of millions of people," Mrema said.

“So unless we get alternatives for these communities, there might be a danger of opening up illegal trade in wild animals which currently is already leading to the brink of extinction for some species."

“We need to look at how we balance that and really close the hole of illegal trade in the future.”


As the coronavirus has spread around the world, there has been increased focus on how humanity’s destruction of nature creates conditions for new zoonotic illness to spread.

Jinfeng Zhou, secretary general of the China Biodiversity Conservation and Green Development Foundation, called on authorities to make the ban on wildlife markets permanent, warning diseases such as Covid-19 would appear again.

“I agree there should be a global ban on wet markets, which will help a lot on wildlife conservation and protection of ourselves from improper contacts with wildlife,” Zhou said. “More than 70% of human diseases are from wildlife and many species are endangered by eating them.”

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A bushmeat stall with pangolins, bush rats and tiger cats for sale on the roadside outside Bata
in Equatorial Guinea.


Mrema said she was optimistic that the world would take the consequences of the destruction of the natural world more seriously in the wake of the Covid-19 outbreak when countries returned to negotiate the post-2020 framework for biodiversity, billed as the Paris agreement for nature.

“Preserving intact ecosystems and biodiversity will help us reduce the prevalence of some of these diseases. So the way we farm, the way we use the soils, the way we protect coastal ecosystems and the way we treat our forests will either wreck the future or help us live longer,” she said.

“We know in the late 1990s in Malaysia with the outbreak of Nipah virus, it is believed that the virus was a result of forest fires, deforestation and drought which had caused fruit bats, the natural carriers of the virus, to move from the forests into the peat farms. It infected the farmers, which infected other humans and that led to the spread of disease."

“Biodiversity loss is becoming a big driver in the emergence of some of these viruses. Large-scale deforestation, habitat degradation and fragmentation, agriculture intensification, our food system, trade in species and plants, anthropogenic climate change – all these are drivers of biodiversity loss and also drivers of new diseases. Two thirds of emerging infections and diseases now come from wildlife.”


In February, delegates from more than 140 countries met in Rome to respond for the first time to a draft 20-point agreement to halt and reverse biodiversity loss, including proposals to protect almost a third of the world’s oceans and land and reduce pollution from plastic waste and excess nutrients by 50%.

A major summit to sign the agreement in October was scheduled in the Chinese city of Kunming but has been postponed because of the coronavirus outbreak.

 
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Ban Bill Gates.


As I and others have been saying for quite a while, all deaths "assumed" to be covid-19, without laboratory testing, are being recorded as covid-19:

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well whad'ya know, vaccines again

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The govt. data out of Italy shows that 98+% of fatalities from covid-19 + several other viruses that are being labelled covid-19, are among over 70 year olds with 1 or more chronic underlying conditions.

YET...

I bet you have somehow gotten the impression in recent days that "covid-19 kills a lot of young people".

The REASON you may have that impression...
Is that your govt. and media are a pack of lying shite hawks.
 
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