Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

[neversickanymore]

Testing matters in conjunction with a long enough home quarantine. A two week home quarantine should allow those infected to get through gestation. Very limited cross exposure during that time will allow medical professionals to track and test possible infected people and hopefully slow down how quickly it spreads.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Exactly. Or stay isolated.
I don't have strength or energy to
argue right now.

treat it now and then stop the virus.

not everyone has it but if someone does

WONT IT BE OBVIOUS.

isolating is good. it makes logical sense to stay away.

i think i had it a long time ago when i lived in the south bay area.
i was not able to breath or take a breath for air.
i had to stand by the hot coils of the stove to stop coughing to breath.
when i had to leave i would have to gasp for air when i tried and tried to cough it out.

i was unhealthy and stressed back then and probably my immunity was extremely weak.
and had bad self medications too !

that's why it is so important to fight, get strong and stay away from putting toxins in the metabolism .
sori.

i get sad still ☹

It might be the bird or swine flu that was that bad, there have been some other pandemic-like influenza-like viral outbreaks. I theorize that's what I'm going through if not covid because I never "got those" when they were "going around". *shrugs*

I can assure you the influenza I had 4 and 16 months ago was *struggling to breathe feeling like death* and this is very mild by comparison. Though very, very long lasting.

 

[Hylight]

i dont know weather to or

so both. oh my stomach.
my alarm clock just went off
and scared some shit in me

BYE
whatev'z

 

[JessFR]

It's not that we aren't doing it. There are NOT enough resources for all 8 billion people on earth to keep testing for covid-19 with 10% positive, potential re-infection, ongoing mutations of the virus.

We're fucked if we think we can win the war against a virus.

We didn't learn anything from the HIV crisis.

We learned even less when reading Moby Dick.

We can't help 8 billion people. We can help 300 million.

Just because we can't save everyone doesn't mean we save noone.

Chances are there is no reinfection. And mutation fortunately seems to be quite slow with this virus.

There's a lot we can do.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Testing matters in conjunction with a long enough home quarantine. A two week home quarantine should allow those infected to get through gestation. Very limited cross exposure during that time will allow medical professionals to track and test possible infected people and hopefully slow down how quickly it spreads.

The area I live in is vast and if I went out while being contagious *and knew it for just one hour* I'll have unlikely *potentially* spread it to one, a dozen, or hundreds of people depending on what I'm hearing about it and how vulnerable others are/ if I got it "before them".

This type of severe isolation/quarantine might work for rural neighborhoods. It did NOT work for China or US or Iran or Italy or UK. Basically... population dense areas. (Overpopulation is killing the world... and the world is killing us...)

 

[Captain.Heroin]

We can't help 8 billion people. We can help 300 million.

Just because we can't save everyone doesn't mean we save noone.

Chances are there is no reinfection. And mutation fortunately seems to be quite slow with this virus.

There's a lot we can do.

There's a possibility it'll mutate into a less deadly / terrible pathogen. There's also a possibility it'll mutate into something worse.

I've read it has already mutated once and there are two known sub-types of covid-19. That's what, one mutation in a few months, both of which can affect humans?

They are guesstimating 1-2 years of immunity after you fully recover. This is assuming you DO fully recover and have a robust immune system, though... there's down sides for many people who don't meet those criteria.

 

[neversickanymore]

That is why they want you in your house and not going out CH

 

[S.J.B.]

They're really ramping up testing in my location. There's a large outdoor site and anyone can walk up and get tested if they have a cough, a fever, or shortness of breath (no combination thereof necessary); if they've been in contact with anyone with these symptoms who has traveled recently; or if they've been in contact with anyone who's been diagnosed with COVID-19.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

CH seems like he could use a benzo lol

 

[Captain.Heroin]

That is why they want you in your house and not going out CH

I know, I know, I totally know man. I feel guilty going to the grocery store. They should just put food in a bag tell me how much it is and charge me, like, if I'm sick I'm not crunching dimes and pennies at the check out aisle. But no one is going to do that for me. I don't have anyone to take care of me if I'm the sick one.

If I go out I am pathologically afraid to get within 6 feet of someone else for THEIR sake NOT mine, lol. Because I am sure I would get them sick and I have a good enough immune system to be a "non-symptomatic carrier" and I think I'm one of those people who would suffer from the real flu worse than covid based on "presentations I've read" (there's people who suffer worse from covid, or the flu, depending etc.... yadda yadda... blah blah blah)

And the self-isolation during depression/grief is NOT good for my brain, and I just have to put up with it for everyone else's sake.

And seriously before the LA health authorities said to pretend/inform others you have covid-19 even if you are untested I ALREADY WAS, because I want people to know *what could happen* as I have no idea what I'm really sick with. And you can have covid 19 without ANY SYMPTOMS. For weeks. That blows. So it's just the socially responsible thing to pretend to have it if you have any symptoms and even if you don't. *shrugs*

I totally agree NSA, I do, that's why I'm ... here, posting, and not... doing something else.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

They're really ramping up testing in my location. There's a large outdoor site and anyone can walk up and get tested if they have a cough, a fever, or shortness of breath (no combination thereof necessary); if they've been in contact with anyone with these symptoms who has traveled recently; or if they've been in contact with anyone who's been diagnosed with COVID-19.

I saw your location tag was CANADA. I knew it wasn't America, sadly.

I have a cough, headache, runny or stuffy nose, fatigue, confusion and this has been going on for 3 weeks and 2 days now.

"I don't meet testing criteria" and people WHO DO in my country are told "oh sorry there just aren't enough test kits".

I'm so glad Canada takes health SERIOUSLY. Because even if I don't care if I get sick and die it could impact OTHERS. And that you really SHOULD care about, for sure. I'm glad someone is getting testing somewhere.

CH seems like he could use a benzo lol

You have no idea. I have been screaming and acting out in weird ways and my family can tell how bad this is for me and they're like "it's ok we can get you medicine" because they can tell something is NOT RIGHT with me, and they know I tried to go months w/o benzo use and it's just worn me down mentally into this amalgamated failure... and I'm still afraid because I don't want to have to talk to a new doctor, I don't want to have to go to the pharmacy, and part of me is afraid if I go back on benzos I'll never be "right". If a doctor does NOT give me the meds I KNOW I need I might also say something that will seriously disturb them to their core for the rest of their lives without thinking twice about it because I'm not trying to get HIGH on benzos they are MEDICINAL and MUCH NEEDED.

If I wanted to get high there's like EVERY option in the book for me. I want MENTAL STABILITY and whatever most people "get out of benzos" is like a joke to me. Medicinal relief -> sleep -> waking up happy BECAUSE THAT'S NORMAL and not severely fucked up from mental issues, depression, etc. So when doctors act like benzos are a big fucking deal I know THEY are the derelict drug user and they HATE themselves for it and project that shit onto me. GROSS. I've had VERY few psychiatrists really "understand" that this is JUST MEDICINE and I PREFER NOT BEING ON IT but that isn't healthy for me/others.

And even the "understanding" psychiatrists are like "oh you don't want to numb all your psychogenic pain with benzos indefinitely" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I am NOT dealing with grief/loss in a healthy way and the pills aren't the problem the mental disorder is! Even if I hated someone if I knew they thought/felt the same way I did at times I'd prescribe them anything they know would work. People shouldn't have to feel *that bad*. It's just inhumane. I wouldn't wish my mental status on Trump, just covid 19 he seems to love fighting the war against so much. I want to see him fight the war. You know, because he was too RICH and SPOILED to fight Vietnam. And he jokes dodging STD's was his Vietnam? So disrespectful to the veterans. So awful.

I still have like maybe a dozen hypnotic benzos and less than one bar of alprazolam. I am very sparing with the medication. YES I did TRY with my whole heart to get more before covid panic. I did.

 

[S.J.B.]

The University of Oxford has been compiling COVID-19 testing rates of various countries:

Here are some more-granular American numbers to compare to this. Note that the overall number of tests in the U.S. roughly tripled since March 19th, the date used for the quoted chart.

 

[JessFR]

I saw your location tag was CANADA. I knew it wasn't America, sadly.

I have a cough, headache, runny or stuffy nose, fatigue, confusion and this has been going on for 3 weeks and 2 days now.

"I don't meet testing criteria" and people WHO DO in my country are told "oh sorry there just aren't enough test kits".

I'm so glad Canada takes health SERIOUSLY. Because even if I don't care if I get sick and die it could impact OTHERS. And that you really SHOULD care about, for sure. I'm glad someone is getting testing somewhere.


You have no idea. I have been screaming and acting out in weird ways and my family can tell how bad this is for me and they're like "it's ok we can get you medicine" because they can tell something is NOT RIGHT with me, and they know I tried to go months w/o benzo use and it's just worn me down mentally into this amalgamated failure... and I'm still afraid because I don't want to have to talk to a new doctor, I don't want to have to go to the pharmacy, and part of me is afraid if I go back on benzos I'll never be "right". If a doctor does NOT give me the meds I KNOW I need I might also say something that will seriously disturb them to their core for the rest of their lives without thinking twice about it because I'm not trying to get HIGH on benzos they are MEDICINAL and MUCH NEEDED.

If I wanted to get high there's like EVERY option in the book for me. I want MENTAL STABILITY and whatever most people "get out of benzos" is like a joke to me. Medicinal relief -> sleep -> waking up happy BECAUSE THAT'S NORMAL and not severely fucked up from mental issues, depression, etc. So when doctors act like benzos are a big fucking deal I know THEY are the derelict drug user and they HATE themselves for it and project that shit onto me. GROSS. I've had VERY few psychiatrists really "understand" that this is JUST MEDICINE and I PREFER NOT BEING ON IT but that isn't healthy for me/others.

And even the "understanding" psychiatrists are like "oh you don't want to numb all your psychogenic pain with benzos indefinitely" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I am NOT dealing with grief/loss in a healthy way and the pills aren't the problem the mental disorder is! Even if I hated someone if I knew they thought/felt the same way I did at times I'd prescribe them anything they know would work. People shouldn't have to feel *that bad*. It's just inhumane. I wouldn't wish my mental status on Trump, just covid 19 he seems to love fighting the war against so much. I want to see him fight the war. You know, because he was too RICH and SPOILED to fight Vietnam. And he jokes dodging STD's was his Vietnam? So disrespectful to the veterans. So awful.

I still have like maybe a dozen hypnotic benzos and less than one bar of alprazolam. I am very sparing with the medication. YES I did TRY with my whole heart to get more before covid panic. I did.

Yeah, it's fucked up.

I'll say one good thing about being in a psych hospital though. In my experience that's the one time when they are way way more willing to hand out benzos.

When I was in the psych ward after my suicide attempt, it was right around the time when there was this big flood, and there was another woman there who I assume had had an emotional breakdown.

Anyway they offered her a Valium, and I just asked half joking if I could have one too. And sure enough the nurse gave me one.

Wasn't an isolated incident, they pretty much offered them whenever I indicated that I was feeling stressed.

When they know exactly what you're taking they're so much more willing to give them to you.

 

[What 23]

Blah...

I'm definitely not on the 'Conservative/Republican' side either. Sham shit show. The toilet paper has meaning.

 

[What 23]

I just noticed my profile picture looks (kinda) like it's made of toilet paper...

All this shit is just happening.

 

[What 23]

I saw your location tag was CANADA. I knew it wasn't America, sadly.

I have a cough, headache, runny or stuffy nose, fatigue, confusion and this has been going on for 3 weeks and 2 days now.

"I don't meet testing criteria" and people WHO DO in my country are told "oh sorry there just aren't enough test kits".

I'm so glad Canada takes health SERIOUSLY. Because even if I don't care if I get sick and die it could impact OTHERS. And that you really SHOULD care about, for sure. I'm glad someone is getting testing somewhere.


You have no idea. I have been screaming and acting out in weird ways and my family can tell how bad this is for me and they're like "it's ok we can get you medicine" because they can tell something is NOT RIGHT with me, and they know I tried to go months w/o benzo use and it's just worn me down mentally into this amalgamated failure... and I'm still afraid because I don't want to have to talk to a new doctor, I don't want to have to go to the pharmacy, and part of me is afraid if I go back on benzos I'll never be "right". If a doctor does NOT give me the meds I KNOW I need I might also say something that will seriously disturb them to their core for the rest of their lives without thinking twice about it because I'm not trying to get HIGH on benzos they are MEDICINAL and MUCH NEEDED.

If I wanted to get high there's like EVERY option in the book for me. I want MENTAL STABILITY and whatever most people "get out of benzos" is like a joke to me. Medicinal relief -> sleep -> waking up happy BECAUSE THAT'S NORMAL and not severely fucked up from mental issues, depression, etc. So when doctors act like benzos are a big fucking deal I know THEY are the derelict drug user and they HATE themselves for it and project that shit onto me. GROSS. I've had VERY few psychiatrists really "understand" that this is JUST MEDICINE and I PREFER NOT BEING ON IT but that isn't healthy for me/others.

And even the "understanding" psychiatrists are like "oh you don't want to numb all your psychogenic pain with benzos indefinitely" ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I am NOT dealing with grief/loss in a healthy way and the pills aren't the problem the mental disorder is! Even if I hated someone if I knew they thought/felt the same way I did at times I'd prescribe them anything they know would work. People shouldn't have to feel *that bad*. It's just inhumane. I wouldn't wish my mental status on Trump, just covid 19 he seems to love fighting the war against so much. I want to see him fight the war. You know, because he was too RICH and SPOILED to fight Vietnam. And he jokes dodging STD's was his Vietnam? So disrespectful to the veterans. So awful.

I still have like maybe a dozen hypnotic benzos and less than one bar of alprazolam. I am very sparing with the medication. YES I did TRY with my whole heart to get more before covid panic. I did.

I have no real grasp of your situation - but did suffer from terrible anxiety for a time mainly due to undiagnosed food allergies, I think. For me fish oil seemed to help me, and green tea. Not that it is that simple, but before I realized I was allergic to certain foods (milk mainly- An allergy that actually at some point caused my head to be cut into), I started drinking green tea, and taking fish oil, and that brought me more level/calm than I had been for years at that point.

Sometime later I discovered L-Theanine, which is actually in green tea (in much smaller amounts than one would usually take when supplementing), and it also really helped with relaxation/calming. There have also been people who have swapped benzos for it (often taking very high doses) with success. If anything, it couldn't hurt(?) to try/add-in. I tend not to use it anymore because it sort of puts my mind to "sleep". And I sort of like being revved up. But occasionally I do take it.

Also I don't know your particular genetic makeup in this regard, but I have a mutation or two which makes it hard for me to break-down certain neurotransmitters, and hormones, and this feeds into anxiety potentially. Through research on one particular mutation, I found recommendation for a supplement: Calcium D-Glucarate, which helps the body to detoxify itself, and to break-down these transmitters/hormones more like they should be; It gives the body the fuel it needs to do so. When I haven't taken it for a while, especially if I haven't been eating cruciferous vegetables (broccoli mainly, which contains compounds that do the trick, including calcium d-glucarate), it feels like certain stress that I had just washes off my back. It can be very relaxing, especially when I've been lacking. I try not to take it all the time, though, as I notice I'm irritable if I have too much of it. I try to keep it to 500 mg a day, although the bottles usually recommend that two times a day or more.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Honestly like I just need my fucking medicine so bad Trump needs to end the War on Drugs to fight the war on covid19

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Yeah, it's fucked up.

I'll say one good thing about being in a psych hospital though. In my experience that's the one time when they are way way more willing to hand out benzos.

When I was in the psych ward after my suicide attempt, it was right around the time when there was this big flood, and there was another woman there who I assume had had an emotional breakdown.

Anyway they offered her a Valium, and I just asked half joking if I could have one too. And sure enough the nurse gave me one.

Wasn't an isolated incident, they pretty much offered them whenever I indicated that I was feeling stressed.

When they know exactly what you're taking they're so much more willing to give them to you.

My doctor knows exactly what I was on except for like cannabis at the time I was a lot more balanced when I took my meds I wasn't even drinking for a whole year and worked more.

Starting to apply for new jobs I imagine a lot of us and United States are unemployed right now because of the recent Corona stock market crash Panic epidemic.

Oddly enough I do want to live for the time being but I'm at peace with everything especially after what I went through this year.

Was suicidal for many years. Struggled a lot. Now doing better but fuckin CORONA PANIC lockdown shit

 

[JessFR]

My doctor knows exactly what I was on except for like cannabis at the time I was a lot more balanced when I took my meds I wasn't even drinking for a whole year and worked more.

What I mean though is that in hospital they know exactly what you got, when you got it, how much you got. They don't have to worry about prescribing you a bunch of pills and leaving you to decide when you need it. They can just dispense one, and evaluate if they think you need another later.

And they work in an environment where they're having to medicate patients all the time.

So they feel much more secure and familiar with prescribing benzos. And so in my experience they're way way more willing to do it.

Not very helpful unless you're in a psych hospital admitidly.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Testing matters because if we tested more, a LOT more than we are. We could isolate the infected and slow down, or even kill the spread of the virus.

Unfortunately we aren't doing that, so instead the testing just gives us a probably very incorrect impression of how far long we are and how much time we have to not act in.

Indeed...the fact my whole province (Canada) has shutdown EVERYTHING except grocery stores, corner stores, pharmacies, hospitals, doctor clinics for tonight at midnight....I'm lucky to be working in a factory, that isn't covered by the Commercial Shutdown. I'll have to buy my e-juice online now.

The numbers in Canada do not warrant the insane wall-to-wall COVID-19 coverage on TV, the "social distantiation" (it sounds exactly like it reads like) they pulled when they closed and reduced number of personnel in government daycares earlier this month, now of course yesterday when the recommendations stopped, they extended them another 2 weeks. Federal gov is considering medical martial law.....about 15 people died. It's strange how nobody seems to recover as opposed to the countries with huge swats of population being affected (China, Italy, France, Spain).

This is insanity, not worth destroying the economy. I'm fine, my mom and dad are fine, so is my brother, they can all continue working. The fear injected in the population and the silly radio PSA's from the provincial gov "Today I stayed home all day, ate chips and drank softdrinks and played video games, why? I'm saving the world." what...

I got a regular almost-every-winter sinusitis, not bacterial and I'm not freaking out. People going to Costco and buying shit for 3000 bucks who are 100% healthy.... At least we don't have fines for walking outside too close to somebody, we still have that choice here...and 250 occupancy maximum events....

If it's not over in 2 weeks and the numbers stay as low as they are in this country, this is martial law without saying it, especially since it's not an option in Canada to call for that, we only get army assistance in case of natural disasters, physical ones, and now they charge provinces for their services, despite being paid already for those eventualities? I tell ya the army here is like Jeovah's Witnesses.

I agree we should be cautious but this is not justified and the sudden boom in the US is definitely caused by Trump not wanting to go all hands on deck after it stabilized in China. I just don't know how this virus teleports itself to the farthest from China one can get (Newfoundland, just east of me had 3 cases until 2 days ago where it climbed to a whopping 10, no deaths). I'm just wondering how come nobody is recovering though, those people have had the thing for 3 weeks now...

(stats from there : https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 )