Opioids Opium Poppies. I need help!

[Misssmiley]

I just moved into a new house and found heaps of opium poppies in the yard. Can someone please let me know how to process it to make tea or for smoking it or something else just not IV.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Check if they are really Papaver Somniferium. No clue if their are Poppie look-a-likes.
But you dindn t see them grow just got a garden with dead ones ? It s winter here ...

Did collect some in my old neighborhood. Not that big Pod s. Take out the seed s.
Used the bulb s only they were semi dried bit moist. Disregarded the ones with mold cooked the chunks. Strained though a Coffee filter. The extract was nasty & bitter. Worse then tosh and wash Kratom powder.

The average strengt variable between even individual plant s so gauging a dose impossible. Took what i thought was a light dose. Fitted the nr 2 Coffee filter easy.
Could make a ball after and squeeze the juice out.

It wasn t took a long time to come up the main effect nausea. There was something going on besides that. Not the Opium alkaloid effect that i read about. Felt sick for a long time so keep that in mind you can always take more, no clue of tolerance. You got experience with Opiods? O ar anti emetic helps ? This effect started building 2 hour after ingestion.

Tramadol at 50 mg or to much Kratom can do that to me. But this surpassed both.
Never took it after that last attempt. Don t like it. And it didn t get me high.

 

[Misssmiley]

Thanks for your reply. I’m in Australia so it’s summer here. I have been on opioids for 12 years so I’ve definitely got tolerance. 3

 

[BadBoy377]

Are they fresh?

If so wait until just after petals fall off, wait till middle of hot sunny day pick em and dry upside down on newspaper letting seeds fall out.

Then bust up or grind and soak in boiled water with a little lemon/lime juice. Can rewash again.

4-6 pods probably good starting dose n see how you feel. Alkaloid content varies greatly between species.

If there are loads then end of season the you could boil up all the foliage and stalk n root then reduce to make a crude extract that can be further manipulated.

I have heard of people liquidizing fresh pods as a smoothie but fuck that. Sounds awful. I try n keep seeds out of the brew on account of throwing up blood last couple times I left them all in.

BB

 

[Skorpio]

Start with a low tester dose if you don’t know the variety. Some pods have a lot of thebaine and not that much morphine, which produces a very unpleasant experience.

 

[BadBoy377]

Start with a low tester dose if you don’t know the variety. Some pods have a lot of thebaine and not that much morphine, which produces a very unpleasant experience.

Yeah, it can make you feel very unpleasant indeed. Does it not ultimately metabolise out into something worthwhile though? Does anyone know? @4DQSAR you any idea?

 

[Keif' Richards]

Poppies are weeds depending upon what kind of garden you're operating. The problem is, there has been a major "movement" over the past several decades to specifically breed the Opium out of poppies. One case would be the "California Poppy". This was bred to produce almost negligible active alkaloids. My understanding is that this was done so large-scale Poppy farms would stop being raised by randoms looking for the same thing you're looking for. Poppy seeds as used in culinary arts, as well as the mature flowers which are used for decoration and there is nothing but a drawback for most of these growers to have Poppy with high alkaloid content.

My opening comment though; poppies are so easy to grow in their correct range that I doubt they could easily just replace an entire species with a species devoid of alkaloid content.

That being said OP, most people I've ever spoken to with anything resembling even a moderate history with Opioids run into big brick wall when trying to Freecycle their usage with plants found in the wild. Even in users with a relatively low tolerance to Opioids, the amount of seeds, pods or what have you required to make something worthwhile... well, the effort and trouble involved is the reason why we are not all operating Poppy gardens in our apartment complexes.

I'm not ever going to knock anyone for trying. Hell, if you enjoy being out in nature and you're having a good time doing it, have at it. I just don't want you to be disappointed following a lot of preparation.

 

[4DQSAR]

Yeah, it can make you feel very unpleasant indeed. Does it not ultimately metabolise out into something worthwhile though? Does anyone know? @4DQSAR you any idea?

The Oriental poppy contains no morphine or codeine but reasonable amounts of thebaine (and maybe oripavine). Both are toxic and pro-convulsant. The 'Norman Strain' of the opium poppy was selectivly bred so it produces only those two (major) alkaloids but on a per-mass basis, more. So I would estimate more toxic.

Thebaine and oripavine are prescursors. The former used to make everything from oxycodone to etorphine. The latter was used to make oxymorphone.

I always thought it odd because the oriental poppy does look totally unlike the opium poppy and as far as I know, is quite legal to grow on any scale. IF that was my bag, grow a few tonnes of them, dry the whole plant (including the roots) and sell it. If some dubious fellow chooses to extract the alkaloids, that's their business, not mine. But it's not by bag, not my field, not even on my farm.

 

[BadBoy377]

Well there we go. Thankyou.

Yeah absolutely. They're hungry fuckers but once Poppies get established they're pretty low maintenance.

So there we go... Now, just gotta kick back and watch those poppies grow.

 

[Keif' Richards]

You'll need a scarecrow wearing a police uniform in your field if you wanna keep the riff raff out.

 

[BadBoy377]

You'll need a scarecrow wearing a police uniform in your field if you wanna keep the riff raff out.

It's alright @Keif' Richards , you can come in my poppy field. I don't mind.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Definitely worthwhile, but if you have an opiate tolerance, then not so much.

I've cultivated P. somniferum for years, and found it highly enjoyable, but with an opiate tolerance, the dose you would need for satisfaction increases the side effects from the undesirable alkaloids such as thebaine.

I can get a good 24 hour buzz from just ten pods brewed up.

But getting started requires a lot of experimentation and can take a few years to find the best seeds.

But once your crop is established, use those seeds for future crops and you will have a good idea of the strength every time.

Don't grow too many though, otherwise dependence kicks in. Just use them as a summertime treat.


If you're looking for a heroin substitute, don't bother.

 

[zeespiralout]

Definitely worthwhile, but if you have an opiate tolerance, then not so much.

I've cultivated P. somniferum for years, and found it highly enjoyable, but with an opiate tolerance, the dose you would need for satisfaction increases the side effects from the undesirable alkaloids such as thebaine.

I can get a good 24 hour buzz from just ten pods brewed up.

But getting started requires a lot of experimentation and can take a few years to find the best seeds.

But once your crop is established, use those seeds for future crops and you will have a good idea of the strength every time.

Don't grow too many though, otherwise dependence kicks in. Just use them as a summertime treat.


If you're looking for a heroin substitute, don't bother.

Man, it used to be my jam when you could buy bundles. When pills got too pricey, I experimented with seeds, was surprised there was something in it at all, then found pods. It’s one of my favorites actually, only second to H. I haven’t had any in like a decade now so I wonder if I would still like it as much.

Currently though, no way someone could keep up a habit with just pods. Or replace dope with it. The garden would have to be really big which we know has governmental consequences.

 

[Keif' Richards]

It's kind of crazy looking back on my life. I was born totally susceptible to addiction to Opioids. I see so many people here on the forums and that I've known in my life and I notice the differences that among us in how our usages developed. I used Oxycodone recreationally for the first time at 13-14 and I was already spending all of my money one it by age 15, basically developing a severe compulsion overnight. I was injecting Heroin already by 15-16. I never went through a phase of mild-moderate usage. I never went through a phase of using a couple of Percocet on the weekends. I never really had the opportunity to use something like Poppy Pods/Seeds. My tolerance was already way beyond that by the first time I had learned of the practice when browsing the forums at age 20ish.

I was always envious. To think that some people could go have fun simply by walking into the Poppy Patch when I needed at least a hundred bucks and a dealer. Anyway, old man Keif' is rambling again. Someone give him a pill and turn on the Price is Right for him.

 

[cnnka]

It's kind of crazy looking back on my life. I was born totally susceptible to addiction to Opioids. I see so many people here on the forums and that I've known in my life and I notice the differences that among us in how our usages developed. I used Oxycodone recreationally for the first time at 13-14 and I was already spending all of my money one it by age 15, basically developing a severe compulsion overnight. I was injecting Heroin already by 15-16. I never went through a phase of mild-moderate usage. I never went through a phase of using a couple of Percocet on the weekends. I never really had the opportunity to use something like Poppy Pods/Seeds. My tolerance was already way beyond that by the first time I had learned of the practice when browsing the forums at age 20ish.

I was always envious. To think that some people could go have fun simply by walking into the Poppy Patch when I needed at least a hundred bucks and a dealer. Anyway, old man Keif' is rambling again. Someone give him a pill and turn on the Price is Right for him.

Are you still on poppies ?

 

[Syntherize]

I just moved into a new house and found heaps of opium poppies in the yard. Can someone please let me know how to process it to make tea or for smoking it or something else just not IV.

First identify if they are truly P. Somniferum. Cleaning the raw opium sap and extracting the morphine base from the poppies isn’t very difficult if you have even the most basic understanding of chemistry.