• 🇳🇿 🇲🇲 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇦🇺 🇦🇶 🇮🇳
    Australian & Asian
    Drug Discussion


    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • AADD Moderators: Tronica

OPINION: 6/5/10 'Cassie Vaicekonis: Saying no to drugs is no strategy at all'

acidprime

Bluelighter
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
194

Cassie Vaicekonis: Saying no to drugs is no strategy at all
David Penberthy

They are last words which nobody would want for themselves, and which no parent would ever want for their daughter.

cassi.jpg

Cassie celebrating her 20th and final birthday.

“Daniel, I’m f…ed please get me now,” was one of the final text messages 20-year-old Cassandra Vaicekonis sent her boyfriend shortly before being found dead in a spare room at a Bondi Junction party in May of last year.

Cassandra’s death is the subject of an ongoing coronial inquest and full details surrounding her death will emerge over the coming days. At this stage we know that this intelligent and attractive young woman appears to have taken a combination of cocaine, anti-anxiety medication, painkillers, sleeping tablets and alcohol on the night of May 23.

As the inquest continues Cassandra’s friends – principally her boyfriend Daniel Cartwright - will have some explaining to do. While there is no suggestion of criminality, the level of care Cassandra enjoyed from her friends that fateful night was poor, to say the least.

When Cassandra finally passed out after taking some different pills from a blister pack in her purse, her friends made the pretty casual decision to simply carry her into a spare room and leave her there to sleep it off.

She never woke up. The inquest heard that when she was found the following morning “she was blue”.

Aside from hopefully bringing some kind of peace to her grieving family – and addressing the (probably unlikely) prospect of any charges arising from her death – it’s difficult to see what this inquest will achieve for the broader community in the context of the drug debate.

If anything, the death of Cassandra Vaicekonis demonstrates that society is still completely ill-equipped to deal with people who choose to load up on drugs.

The drug debate is one of the most polarised and volatile areas of public policy. There is a seemingly permanent stand-off between the harm minimisation crowd who believe that drug abuse should be treated like drug use – framed around the belief that individuals can make an informed decision to ingest a narcotic and then do so in the safest way possible - and the Nancy Reagan “Just Say No” brigade who are wholly oblivious to the fact that young people have no interest whatsoever in their abstemious sloganeering.

The harm minimisation approach would have done nothing to save Cassandra as the very concept of introducing an element of planning to your drug use runs contrary to the instincts of the young drug-taker. Recklessness and spontaneity are obviously a big part of the drug experience for young people. I doubt that they want the process to feel as routine and pedestrian as picking up a prescription from the chemist after visiting the GP; rather, they want to push themselves as far as they can, and on the spur of the moment.

On the night she died Cassandra had started off drinking at her best friend’s place, before going to parties in the inner west, then a Kings Cross club, before ending up kicking on with friends of her boyfriend at a Bondi Junction unit. There was nothing planned or structured about anything that happened that night, all the decisions that she and her friends made were affected initially by alcohol and, as the night progressed, a lethal combination of other substances.

But if the harm minimisation message would have been lost on her, the Just Say No mantra would have been laughably ineffective. You would think by now that the zero tolerance brigade would have realised that they are largely talking to each other, not young people, as they insist that the only way to beat drugs is to resolve never to take them. You might get a round of applause at a Rotary Club with such a puritanical approach but if you take it to any schoolyard you will come up against a lot of kids who are already taking drugs, and a lot of kids who will inevitably try drugs a few times before they settle down into adulthood.

I’ve just finished reading a new book called The Candy Machine: How Cocaine Took Over the World, in which author Tom Feiling examines the effectiveness of both approaches in the drug debate, while also providing an incredibly detailed and compelling account of the economics of the drug.

Having copped a fair bit of flak over a column I wrote last year about the drug violence in Mexico, where I said casual coke users in Sydney should take a small bow for contributing through their actions to the sickening bloodshed in that country, Fielding’s book is illustrative in that it documents the creation of a multi-billion-dollar distribution network in Mexico which now services the entire world in meeting demand for cocaine.

But the strongest take-out from his book is that a new approach is obviously required, not just on cocaine but on other narcotics, if we are ever going to stop people from descending into addiction or dying.

Feiling argues that prohibition has been such a failure that there is no point persisting with the ban on cocaine. He doesn’t really spell out how that would work though, and I am stuffed if I can think of a way either. But a good starting point would be for the two camps in the drug debate to try to get together, framed around an admission that nothing seems to be working, and to start afresh.

As for the tragic case of Cassandra Vaicekonis, I wonder whether the anti-drug message is currently too focussed on individual choice, and not focussed enough on a sense of collective responsibility.
Instead of urging young people to say no to drugs, or to think about how they can most safely say yes to drugs, taking a much stronger message to their friends might be a handy new addition to combating this scourge.

The only people somebody like Cassandra would really have listened to on this issue were her own circle of friends – the same people who (you would hope) are now looking into their souls and wondering whether they could have actually done something to avert her death on May 23 last year.

Her death will haunt their conscience forever more. It is something which no sane person would ever want to grapple with as they go through life. Getting that message out to other young people, and urging them to act when they see that a friend is screwing themself up on drugs, would do more to change a young person’s behaviour than any amount of Nancy Reagan-style lecturing that it’s as easy as saying no.


http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/Cassie-Vaicekonis-saying-no-to-drugs-is-no-strategy-at-all-/

Just thought i might post this for others that might be interested in putting forward pro-harm minimization comments.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
The harm minimisation approach would have done nothing to save Cassandra as the very concept of introducing an element of planning to your drug use runs contrary to the instincts of the young drug-taker. Recklessness and spontaneity are obviously a big part of the drug experience for young people. I doubt that they want the process to feel as routine and pedestrian as picking up a prescription from the chemist after visiting the GP; rather, they want to push themselves as far as they can, and on the spur of the moment.

I really have my doubts as to how much simply wanting to rebel leads to drug use. Surely it's the drugs effects themselves that really drive people to use them. There may be a minority drawn to them simply because of the thrill of doing something pereceived as risky and reckless - but surely this could be added to the arguments for legalisation. If the mysterious, unknown element of drugs could be removed, perhaps it would lower the attraction of them to reckless users just after a bit of status amongst their friends.

And anyway, the 'routine and pedestrian' process of picking up codeine from the chemist has never discouraged me :p
 
^Agreed, while I'm sure there are some idiots who use things to be cool, I don't think that's the main reason why people turn to drugs.

At this stage we know that this intelligent and attractive young woman appears to have taken a combination of cocaine, anti-anxiety medication, painkillers, sleeping tablets and alcohol on the night of May 23.
Any member here, a harm minimisation forum, would know that this is a dangerous combination to take.

Some of the comments really highlight what's wrong with the drug debate in this country. This one is particularly...worrying.
Contrast our failure with the incdredibly successful Singaporean model and we look like criminals! Best way to deal with this problem is the introduction of the death penalty and a tough Singpaorean drug treatment programme. If we started with putting to death the likes of Keith Richards and a host of other trendy progressive celebrity scum then the glamour associated with this scurge would be wiped from the face of the Earth.

The perception that all drug users are mindless 'junkies' is still in full effect, too. God forbid many drug users are actually intelligent human beings who make informed choices about the risks they are willing to take.
 
I still think there's definitely an element of 'rebelliousness' (for lack of a better word) among certain classes of users... like I went to an all-girls Catholic school (what a joke that was) and it was only the really 'popular rebels' that got into choof (at the time - the rest went over my head).


in the party scene at least, there are a lot of young kids wanting to break free from the ridigity of their upbringings and obligations and just let loose. of course the more habitual users/addicts have a different motivation for engaging in drug taking behaviour... but it is hard to quantify these cases and determine a specific root cause.
 
Yes Singapore is a fine upstanding model of humanity ............. amongst other things, even chewing gum is illegal. No hold on. I've just checked they've reformed this law after America put pressure on them.
 
Last edited:
Yes Singapore is a fine upstanding model of humanity ............. amongst other things, even chewing gum is illegal. No hold on. I've just checked they've reformed this law after America put pressure on them.
They do still have a nasty habit of caning criminals, amongst others.
 
The harm minimisation approach would have done nothing to save Cassandra as the very concept of introducing an element of planning to your drug use runs contrary to the instincts of the young drug-taker.

I disagree. The Harm Reduction/Minimisation approach would of done alot for Cassandra if she was taught from an early age. It is true she was just trying to get fucked up, but her lack of knowledge of the danger of poli-drug use appears to be her pitfall.

If, now this is a big if, if we could educate, we can help. A good friend of mine say I put too much faith in the power of education, that we can't educate youths to slow down on the roads, or not smoke cigs, or not binge drink so badly. How is this different than my own glorious hopes that drug education will make a difference, when the evidence suggests it won't make one iota of change?

I know there have been times in my drug use that I have thrown caution to the wind and eating another pill or taken another tab when in hine sight this was a bad idea.

Human nature is a fickle thing, and I don't think education is the key, but it sure is one peace of the puzzel. I think if people are taught how to respond to when people pass out, or not be afraid of prosecution if they call 000. These are all factors.

I feel sorry for her family and friends. Such a waste, makes me feel a little worthless, that I try to spread the HR message, and it clearly didn't reach this young girl, and if she did stumble across BL, would it have helped. I like to think so, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
 
I think the statement about harm minimization being ineffective for Cassie is dubious; although taking drugs is a 'thrill', most people who use them do have some understanding that there are dangers and if you provide them with an opportunity to actually ask about these risks and how to minimize them in a setting where they won't be condemned for their drug use then I think a lot of young people would actually listen and take notice.

I think a combination of the propaganda a lot of people are fed in combination with a lack of knowledge regarding harm minimization leads to the recklessness described in the article; people realize they have been lied to, think that they are immune to the dangers and don't have an opportunity for real drug discussion.

Sykik said:
I feel sorry for her family and friends. Such a waste, makes me feel a little worthless, that I try to spread the HR message, and it clearly didn't reach this young girl, and if she did stumble across BL, would it have helped. I like to think so, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Harm minimization groups can only do so much in the current climate surrounding drugs. The information that is out there is dominated by the Government's propaganda.

I've been watching The Wire, just finished Season 3, and I like the concept they display of 'Free Zones' for drugs; areas where drug selling and using is effectively legalized and they even bring in harm reduction groups at some point to distribute needles, take care of people, distribute condoms, etc. The show presents this in a fairly balanced way, and apart from some violence and one overdose, the main obstacle to allowing 'Free Zones' or legalization was that it is political suicide. Until drug discussion can go towards these areas without it being taboo, then we won't get anywhere closer to being able to regulate drugs and provide more care to users.
 
I went to an all-girls Catholic school

That wasn't marterchristi by any chance was it?


One of my dads best friends died when he was in highschool, because he drank with Sleeping Tablets.
Very bad combo, a tragedy indeed =(

My condolences to her friends and family
 
^^^^ nope... hehe... my shithole didn't even rate on the map of academic achievement :) although in all fairness, I should not refer to it as a shithole. I had good teachers, got good marks, and had the time of my life learning my year 12 subjects :D

It's sad that this girl has lost her life so early. Sometimes I am thankful for being brought up by a habitual dope smoker. Makes you pretty cautious and wary of drugs, if nothing else.
 
What a waste :(

I don't know how the government don't see cases like this and act upon it. It saddens me to think this could have ended differently if the government took a more truthful stance on drugs.

Well done Australia, narrrt! :!


That wasn't marterchristi by any chance was it?

I think you may have gone to the same school as me. What a small world it is. :)
 
If, now this is a big if, if we could educate, we can help. A good friend of mine say I put too much faith in the power of education, that we can't educate youths to slow down on the roads, or not smoke cigs, or not binge drink so badly. How is this different than my own glorious hopes that drug education will make a difference, when the evidence suggests it won't make one iota of change?

I would have one question to ask your friend. We are all aware that these things (speeding, smoking, binge drinking) still exist, and as a consequence, people do still die from them, and will continue to forever.
However, given that the government does educate the public about these dangers, if they suddenly decided to stop doing so, would this number increase?

If education saves just one life, then that would of proven to be successful. But transforming the youth into responsible drug users doesn't stop there, we need a pretty much complete reversal of what we are doing now for there to be any change worth writing home about.
 
To put this in context Harm Reduction does work but there will always be casualties. Let’s face it what’s the best of the bad options? A drug free world ? Not on this planet!!!!, it doesn’t exist. Or a more pragmatic approach to drug using behaviour driven by common sense and not moral hysteria. A bit like how we treat other dangers in life: We have speed limits, crash barriers, seat belts and RBT stops, all are harm reduction initiatives to name but a few. If you jump out of a plane it’s wise to carry a parachute: (harm reduction). You’ve met up with the babe of your life and getting down to the business end of the night and you’ve got the condoms. Harm reduction. The steward on the plane gives you the drum on how to assume ‘the crash position’ if the plane is hurtling into the ocean at warp factor 12 (harm reduction, not sure it will work though?) If you go rock fishing as 5 individuals found out the other day it is dangerous, far more dangerous than most drug using behaviours. Although still legal!!!
With drug use when is enough enough? When the good time starts to blur into the area of too much and subsequent dangers start to manifest. Judgement becomes blurred. You can be the expert on drug harm 101 and know all the knowledgeable issues about drugs while you’re not intoxicated. But while your intoxication levels increase these principles mean shit. It’s easy to get well and truly trashed even though you set out to keep a reign on one’s risky behaviours and even though you planned to have quiet one. Unfortunately some people think they are bullet proof and let’s face it best laid plans don’t always equate to best outcomes. That’s were friends and peers are invaluable in gauging the health and wealth ware of friends and love ones.
Interesting paper on this topic
Harm reduction and decision making among recreational ecstasy users, Irene Panagopoulosa,∗, Lina A. Ricciardellib,1
a Adolescent Forensic Health Service, Centre for Adolescent Health, Royal Children’s Hospital, 900 Park Street, Parkville, Vic. 3052, Australia
b School of Psychology, Deakin University, 221 Burwood Highway, Burwood, Vic. 3125, Australia
International Journal of Drug Policy 16 (2005) 54–64
Abstract
Recent research indicates that 3,4-methylene-dioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), also known as ‘ecstasy’, is becoming increasingly popular as an illicit drug among young people. This study investigated risk and harm reduction practices among recreational ecstasy users. A semistructured interview with 40 participants was designed to investigate how ecstasy users identify and manage the harms associated with their drug use, and the underlying decision-making process. Overall, the participants identified both positive and negative effects. The reported positive effects predominantly centred around enhanced psychological, physiological and social experiences. However, there were a number of factors that contributed to regulating ecstasy use. These included specific in-group and out-group practices executed within the peer group, preventative harm-reducing practices, shared decision making, and shared responsibility for harm prevention. Recommendations for promoting harm reduction strategies and suggestions for future research are discussed.
© 2004 Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved. Keywords: Ecstasy; Harm reduction strategies; Decision making; Peer group

Also if you want to read about the randomised control of parachutes and how they save lives read on (it’s a piss take on the wonders of science and conducting randomised control studies) Hazardous journey
Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/327/7429/1459

Hazardous journey
Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/327/7429/1459
 
Top