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(opiates) Is this a typical tolerance increase?

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DroidOpioid

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Monday of last week (6 days ago; it is the Sunday after) is when I started using opioids for the first time. Here is the timeline:

Percocet = Oxycodone 5mg + APAP
Meprozine = Meperidine 50mg + Promethazine 25mg

MONDAY: 1 Percocet
2 Meprozine
Slight buzz, followed by extreme drowsiness with an added bonus! of slurring of speech and stuttering.

TUESDAY: 2 Percocet
1 Meprozine
Intense euphoria experienced for at least an hour, beginning around 2 hours after consumption. This was at school, and I went for a bathroom break and ended up slowly walking up and down the stairs because it was so fun. Smiling was incredibly easy and came at the hint of any sense of humor.

WEDNESDAY: 3 Percocet
2 Meprozine
Felt miserably stoned. No euphoria in the least. Slept off most of the school day. Pupils were extremely small for the first 3 hours. Slept when I came back home. I was told that I was slurring my words when I was trying to read.

WEDNESDAY (NIGHT): Some codeine cough syrup, consumed in excess of 120mg Codeine but not more than 200mg.
Felt really drowsy and my eyelids began to get heavy about 45 minutes after consumption. Knew it was coming, and succumbed to the sleepy feeling. Woke up at an unknown period some time later to the most intense euphoria I've ever experienced. It wasn't as clean as the one attained on Tuesday with the Percocet, however. I felt delirious. I nodded in and out of consciousness laced with lucid dreams and daydreams. After the euphoria passed, however, I went to bed and had lucid, HORRIFYING nightmares. Felt nauseous for 3 days after. My eyes were sore for 2 days after.

SATURDAY (YESTERDAY): 2 Percocet

I played ball with my friends outside a lot, so it was hard to tell what effects were due to the drug. My friends did notice that I was randomly becoming 'quiet' at random intervals throughout the evening. Felt a little more content then usual, and calm, but no euphoria. I also had an accident where I kicked my friend in the shin with my own shin, and he fell to the ground in pain while I just stood there, confused, and invincible. The next day when I woke up, though, my shin was sore as hell.

So, in all, (likely not a healthy weekly dose, I won't be repeating this binge again) I consumed

8 Percocet
5 Meprozine
~140mg Codeine

Is this why I didn't experience any euphoria on Wednesday (when I took the most Percocet I ever have at once) and no euphoria on Saturday either? Is this tolerance? Is this typical?

Just curious. I have never used opioids in my life except for 2 Lortabs, which was months before this.

NOTE: The Meprozine was ALWAYS taken after 2:00pm, always at least 6 hours after the Percocet. So I always experienced the Percocet and the Meprozine individually.
 
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Its always possible that you're a natural heavyweight when it comes to pills. That's not really that many pills, so you're on the borderline of not even having much if any euphoria or high from the pills. I wouldn't really consider it a binge though, a binge would be more like going from taking nothing a day to taking 10-20 or more percocet 10's a day for days and days on end. Don't worry about permanent damage, because you could've taken all of that in one day and been alright, even if you're a lightweight. Next time if you want to get a good buzz and you have very little tolerance, try taking 3-4 percocet 10's' at once. Can't say much about the demerol+phenegran you took, because I've never been able to get much of anything from those, even when I did have a low tolerance. Not sure why because demerol is pretty good when its given iv in the hospital. Well, it is when you don't have much tolerance. Last time I had demerol at the hospital, I didn't feel a thing. It all varies from person to person anyways. One person is always going to have a different reaction than another person. That's why when they do drug trials, so many people react to placebos even though its just a sugar pill, and different people get different reactions from the real medicines. Off topic, but if you look up the difference in placebo effects and the effects of real antidepressants, you'll see where people taking the placebos get high, get nausea, all types of effects, and a great many claim to feel less depressed just because they thought they took an antidepressant, when there are just as many people who took the antidepressant that don't feel any better whatsoever. For some problems such as depression, many people can be treated (successfully) with being given sugar pills and being told its an antidepressant. That placebo effect seems to work best when it comes to antidepressants. Just like the placebo effect when people take an advil or an aspirin and then later claim that it made them drowsy to the point they couldn't drive, the medicine doesn't have any effect on those receptors in the brain, its just the person is different than other people and they get the placebo effect. Not necessarily saying thats whats happening with you, but its always a possibility of placebo effect to some point, because you're not really taking that much medicine. 8 pills seems like a lot, but many doctors will give people 4 percocet 10's a day and thats just in the beginning of pain management.
 
It sounds like you had a mild OD on Wednesday, IMO... Demerol is a strong and strange drug, and 100mg demerol + 15mg oxycodone is a good amount of opiates for someone with your tolerance. Notice that Wednesday is not only the day with the most OC... It is the day with the most opiates in general, too...

Saturday, you took less drugs than you did all week, so it's not surprising that you didn't feel it strongly that day...

-> BDD
 
@BollWeevil

Notice the line at the end my OP: NOTE: The Meprozine was ALWAYS taken after 2:00pm, always at least 6 hours after the Percocet. So I always experienced the Percocet and the Meprozine individually.

So regardless of whatever I took after the Percocet wore off, I still didn't get a high from the 3 Percocet pills. I just felt 'stoned' in that I was dead tired, weak, and looked like I hadn't slept all night. It wasn't anything unbearable, but pretty uncomfortable for the first half of the school day.

Oh and isn't Demerol the suspect in the death of M.J.? I know that the body produces a toxic metabolite from Meperidine.

And why do you guys call the chemicals by their brand names lol. Like you call Meperidine 'Demerol.' Wouldn't it make more sense to call it by the chemical name?

And in your opinion, would my usage this past week have created any sort of physical tolerance?
 
God damn I would kill to be at this stage in opiate/opiod use again.

It sounds like when you got "stoned" you were just nodding harder than you ever have before.

The euphoria from opiates diminishes rapidly when dosing multiple times a day for multiple days.

This, coupled with the fact that you haven't even done 20mg of oxycodone at once yet is most likely what is causing you to need more to feel good.

The first few times you do opiates you will notice the effects from tiny doses because it is new to you, but after a few uses you will likely need to up the dose to a reasonable "starter dose" of around 20mg to feel a satisfactory effect.

Just stop taking opiates while you are ahead, otherwise you will be regretting not taking this advice.
 
Well, I only have about 15 Percocets and 10 Meprozine pills left. So I'm forced to spread the usage throughout the summer. So I guess it's safe to say that I'm not in any real danger of addiction?

I don't find myself 'craving' or consistently thinking about using at all. I'm not addicted in the sense that if someone flushed all my pills down the drain, I'd be pissed. I wouldn't really care that much, aside from the fact that I won't have something to do to pass the time on certain boring weekends.

I got some pretty intense euphoria from these pills, in fact, the most happiness I've ever experienced in my life. Yet, I don't feel compelled to use again. I'm not sure why, it is just that maybe I have a stronger resistance towards getting psychologically addicted to a drug's effects?

Not to get over-competent, though.
 
Demerol is funky... LOL the IV at the hospital is nice but the pills kinda blow unless you take a decent dose... id be careful with em!
 
DroidOpioid said:
Well, I only have about 15 Percocets and 10 Meprozine pills left. So I'm forced to spread the usage throughout the summer. So I guess it's safe to say that I'm not in any real danger of addiction?

I don't find myself 'craving' or consistently thinking about using at all. I'm not addicted in the sense that if someone flushed all my pills down the drain, I'd be pissed. I wouldn't really care that much, aside from the fact that I won't have something to do to pass the time on certain boring weekends.

I got some pretty intense euphoria from these pills, in fact, the most happiness I've ever experienced in my life. Yet, I don't feel compelled to use again. I'm not sure why, it is just that maybe I have a stronger resistance towards getting psychologically addicted to a drug's effects?

Not to get over-competent, though.
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Your not compelled to use them daily, because you have such little usage history with the drug. You said, before said week, your opiate experience was limited to like 2 percs. Keep using daily and watch how fast you'll crave them. You've already said the euphoria you experience is the happiest you've ever felt, which sure is great now, but it also sounds like tolerance from using daily has started to take it's toll. Eventually, you'll find yourself upping the dose to keep reaching that same level of euphoria, and that is where the problem lies.

As for if your safe from addiction, that's up to you to decide and no one is able to gauge when it starts. But I promise you (for the most part), if you keep using them, whether it be weekly or monthly, at some point, that usage time frame will shorten, and you will be using more and more, and you'll be in too deep.

Opiates are indeed (IMO) the greatest drug. The joy that they can bring to someone is godlike, however, myself and others can tell you, there is a very very dark side them as well.

Tread carefully.
 
I guess it's in my best interest that I don't have any source for more pills then, huh?
 
Oh you can always find more pills...

Look, there's no point in trying to analyze every last detail of your experience; I'm sure you know 1 or 2 pills a day isn't even a prescribed dosage, let alone a "fun" one. Save the rest for a special occasion or for when you might need a real pick-me-up or stress relief.

The sooner you take them, the more likely you'll find yourself magically In possession of more!
 
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