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Opiates for breakup depression

g_dan1

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Hi everyone. Recently i broke up with my girlfriend and i ve been feeling vrry depressed. We had a long term relationship (1.5 years) and now i feel hopeless.
I tried adderall but it only helped me for 1 day, and made me even more depressed the next day.
I tried oxy before (10-15mg) but never managed to get high.
I was wondering if i could use opiates for a little while to help me with my depression after breakup. Im looking for something that will make me temporarily happy without any rebound negative effects.
I know that most of you will tell me to stay away from opiates because thats how addiction starts and im aware of that. Im pretty confident in my self control and i know when to stop. I just feel very hopeless at the moment and nothing seems to help :/ i guess opiates would be a better choice than suicide
 
Hey buddy, I just want to give you some advice being a recovering addict myself. I honestly dont think its your self control that would be a problem. Especially if you are going to use a method of intoxication (using drugs) to help you with emotional pain. If you can find a pill that will make you feel better, when the effects ware off, you will eventually come back to the pain you had earlier. Its also interesting, addiction is by far the most deceptive disease out there. Just admitting to even having an addiction issue can be a big deal. Many are sincerely convinced they dont have a problem, and it usually takes for it to get really bad before it becomes acknowledged.

Now in no way am i saying you would have an issue with addiction, but anyone can become physically dependent on drugs like opiates. And if you become emotionally reliant on them during this hard part of your life, you will be allowing yourself to become addicted to them, maybe physically first, but often times its the mental addiction, the deceiving part that comes way before. As a recovering addict I can tell you that thinking about using an opiate to help you cope is considered addictive thinking. And engaging in the process of using said opiate, will be the development of a very stubborn habit.

However, intoxication has always been a part of human life going waaay back in time, even animals seek intoxicants to help them. I just urge you to cry more, as much as that doesnt sound nice, it is a healing process, get some therapy and talk with people or a person about it. Do what you can to naturally overcome this dark time. And if you end up using drugs to help you. I just urge extreme caution because when drugs are used to mask pain and/or as a crutch, it is an early stage of addiction waiting to take form.
If you do use opiates, it doesnt mean you will become addicted. But just be mindful of your usage behavior. and when you DO use them, be productive, journal, or something that helps you in the healing process, take advantage of the emotional relief. Taking substances just to escape or run from pain is a bad habit to start.

Anyways hope that advice helps and best of wishes to you!
And yes opiates should kill your emotional pain.
 
I'm a 24 year old guy who went through a similar situation. I didn't think about anything but her. It was very difficult. I also used drugs to get over it mainly alcohol or opiates. I will say they helped but only time will truly heal you. It gets easier each day. But at the beginning i was feeling just like you.
 
thanks for your support guys! I found that stimulants and alcohol do not work for this because the rebound depression and emotional pain is worse that what i had before taking them. I thought opiates are much smoother and don't just make you go from feeling sad to feeling good to feeling like total shit
 
Opiates work a bit too well. I know it's difficult but trust me mate, you'll get over a break up eventually, an opiate addiction will haunt you forever.
 
Well, pretty much everyone thought they could control it. No one wants to "be an opiate addict when I grow up"

A thought for you about pills and self control:
--there was a guy Joe who was just like you. " I know when to stop" he thought. " I won't end up like those other people"

His dad overheard him saying he could take a few of his dad's painkillers, he would only do it once he could control the outcome. He could stop anytime. " it's just a matter of willpower"

Next morning his dad handed him a few pills. "I heard you wanted to try these. I'd rather you take them around me." Joe quickly swallowed them.

A few minutes later his dad smiles and says " can't wait to see how that willpower is going to work"! Joe was confused. His dad smiled and told him " oh, those were laxatives. I figured we'd give your willpower a try"

Certain pills are just going to have certain outcomes. No matter how strong the willpower.
 
I would like to influence you to not take any opiates. Ever. Opiates have been the bane of my existence since I was a young man. I have been sick countless times for no reason other than my decision to begin self medicating with opiates long ago. The pain of your broken relationship will fade with time. It would be foolish to develop an opiate addiction because of that.
 
Like everyone else has said, it's a really bad idea. No drug is going to make you feel better without rebound symptoms. If you're struggling this badly, you should talk to a therapist or look into CBT.
 
If you do use opiates, it doesnt mean you will become addicted. But just be mindful of your usage behavior. and when you DO use them, be productive, journal, or something that helps you in the healing process, take advantage of the emotional relief. Taking substances just to escape or run from pain is a bad habit to start.

This is good advice imo
 
One of the things that can make you really vulnerable to drug addiction is using it to numb pain. It's not about willpower. If willpower could stop addiction from starting, then there'd be barely any addicts.

Distracting yourself from pain is okay, and it's necessary sometimes. There are ways to help yourself without opiates. Some things that could help are calling a hotline to just vent, moodgym.anu.edu.au (a free CBT resource that's actually really good), chocolate, exercise, gaming, support groups, watching trash TV (or good films), meditation, language learning (duolingo is a fun free resource), if you can access it seeking mental health support.

This is a breakup. It hurts. It's supposed to hurt. Hurt is really unpleasant and it's normal to want it to go away, but nothing will make it go away if you don't let yourself process it and give it time. You'll learn useful things from this, I promise.
 
yeah the idea you can control it, is a main ingredient for addiction. That might be one of this bigger elements for the development of addiction. because if you can control your usage, that gives you an excuse to use. If you use opiates to numb the pain, once the opiates wear off, your not going back to a "normal" your going back to a lot of pain! so in a theoretical sense, you will immediately have emotional withdrawals and so you have too many ingredients for addiction to start. I would suggest not using anything and that will allow the healing process to go faster, and will also stunt the development of addiction.
 
Thank you to everyone for your support and understanding! I will reconsider trying opiates for that matter. Can someone tell me if opiates give you this sort of crash and depression the next day like stimulants and alcohol? Stimulants and alcohol are such nasty drugs for me, they make me feel 10 times worse the next day
 
Don't take opiates, or any drugs as you are sad and depressed, they will not help and will only make things worse, and you could wind up addicted to them. Time will heal things, and talking to a counselor or therapist will help. Good luck.
 
Before being addicted I definitely recall feeling hungover after a day / night of opiate use, which makes you just want to do more. It really is the devil you're probably tired of reading these warnings but I wish I had never started. Truly if I never touched an opiate my life would be in such a better place than it is right now.
 
first of all, post breakup depression isn't necessarily "depression" in the clinical sense. in medical terms it would be what's called an "adjustment disorder," which is just what it sounds like, a disturbance in your mental health due to adjusting to a new life circumstance or a period of stress. pharmaceutical aid can help but is often not necessary. a brief course of psychotherapy is probably a better bet, so is going to the gym, getting active socially again, all that sort of stuff that's cliché by now to say but really helps and is not an easy thing to motivate yourself to do but is worth it

opiates will, indeed, help; until they stop to help, whereupon you'll realize that increasing the dose will make them help again; whereupon you'll get your first withdrawal symptoms; whereupon you'll be an addict just like everyone else. this is more or less inevitable. you are explicitly saying that you want to use opiates as an escape. this is already a bad sign.

importantly,

euphoriantanti-depressant

anti-depressants are supposed to put you at a baseline state. euphoriants get you high, which is an unnatural and imbalanced state, and one from which you will eventually have to return, almost inevitably worse for the wear, especially when you're using the drug as an escape.

the same could be said about just about any of the recreational drugs*. amphetamines definitely will make depression go away for a while, but the same story, and the crash from them can have even people without underlying depression feeling even suicidal.

assuming you are getting your drugs from the black market rather than a doctor, this leaves you open to all the worries of supply & demand not to mention it is an expensive habit (my last run with dope about 6 months cost about $20k all told)

do not think this will work without escalating the dose

all of the effects that you're looking for will fade away. you are not treating depression, you are merely putting your mind in a place where it doesn't give a fuck and is just looking inward at how nice it is to be high. this is a good escape for awhile but you're far from the first person to say that they're pretty sure they can control themselves and then go full on degenerate or in the very least wind up with a habit and having to go through withdrawal. ask any dope fiend, BTW, kicking dope isn't really that hard, but staying off is, one of the particular reasons for this is post-acute withdrawal syndrome (PAWS) which includes depression & anxiety and lasts much, much longer than the initial withdrawal with the diarrhea and the gooseflesh and all the physical and mental miseries, but that's over in less than a week; the other shit can last for years

you are talking about a long term commitment whether you think you are or not. if you're dealing with post-breakup depression, imagine opiates as being another fling, but one that almost always leads to a love affair that ends badly. you'll put yourself through the same shit again just in a different way, in some sense; this is of course a metaphor but a very true one. addiction is a pathological relationship, basically, but it's with a drug.


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*with the possible exception of ketamine, used clinically (where it is given in treatments spaced out over time, in controlled doses and settings, and does seem to work well for many people; this is not recreational use; people with depression often get into ketamine and start doing it every day as an escape, this is really bad news and although not an addiction on par with heroin should be taken seriously as a largely psychological dependence that is very bad for your mental health) studies are being done with buprenorphine for depression and the only reason I could possibly see this working (besides anecdote, which includes to some degree my personal experience, although it wears off after a time) is the very particular pharmacology of this drug. this is a ways off though. and neither is something that is appropriate to undertake except under medical supervision.
 
First off sorry about your relationship I know it can be hard. You will get over it in time.

How old are you? If your real young like 24 or less I would definitely advise against using anything to help with this sort of thing.

If your like 25 or so at least I would advise against using opiates as they work too well and you wont be working to get past anything.

I would think a benzo like xanax might help. Not to konk you out all day every day but when your real bad go ahead and get a nice benzo high going. You will probably even think about everything while on it and it might help to work through it a bit... however only time will heal the wound. It's a pretty long relationship but not so long that you will never get over it.

If you do go the opiate route I would also think that just using it as a crutch when you REALLY need it would be best. Otherwise you will never really get over it and when you stop taking them your right where you are now. Also addiction is bad yadda yadda you already know that however I will agree with the other poster that thinking you can handle it is the worst thing ever when starting a drug... You can't handle it. No one really can unless its an occasional thing. no matter the substance really. No matter why your using it... start doing it often and your gonna be fucked.
 
Apart from warnings about addiction and abuse, what im getting from this is that opiates DO have a crash the next day like stimulants and alcohol where u feel shitty aftet the high. Is that right?
 
Apart from warnings about addiction and abuse, what im getting from this is that opiates DO have a crash the next day like stimulants and alcohol where u feel shitty aftet the high. Is that right?

You might not experience it initially, but with prolonged use, they definitely can. And if your use long enough, you'll get full blown physical WD which is much worse than a hangover
 
Apart from warnings about addiction and abuse, what im getting from this is that opiates DO have a crash the next day like stimulants and alcohol where u feel shitty aftet the high. Is that right?

They don't have a "crash" like cocaine/MA/MDMA/etc or a hangover like alcohol, but that doesn't mean by any stretch that it's a good idea, for all the reasons mentioned above. Psychological and physiological dependence (which aren't anywhere near as different as people tend to paint them) set in much quicker than you think. If you think you can "get away" with using opiates every other day or something, you're one in a very large [FONT=Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman]N[/FONT], and lets get real, you're not.

Source: I've used opiates in one form or another for 20 years or so. In those times where I have not been using opiates (including suboxone/etc. maintenance) I was either substituting other drugs (large amounts of alcohol, primarily), or physically unable to access them, or desperately wanting them.
 
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