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Opiates and MJ

b4rd

b4rd

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Does anyone whos drug of choice is opiates feel this way about MJ? I don't like the high anymore since switching to doing opiates more.. but I used to love MJ?

The high's too intense, too much paranoia and change in mind state, since getting used to the opiate high, I like being high, but still grounded to the earth. I think about too much weird shit on pot... but on opiates I can do whatever I need to do without thinking about it..^ I dont know if this made sense.

Can anyone relate? Is there a reason for this? I used to loveeee MJ.
 
Abso-fuckin-lutely. I used to smoke weed pretty much 24/7 until I had a really bad panic attack due to underlying mental health issues which I was covering up. After that and finding Opiates a bit moreish I can't touch the stuff anymore :\
I think you'll be surprised how many people here will also say they don't like or can't smoke it anymore.
 
I love opiates but because I love them so much I try to stay away for fear of getting hooked, I understand the way you feel on opiates, I feel much the same way, it's one of the most intense, warm, comfortable, euphoric places you'll ever go. I haven't experienced a reaction like yours to weed (yet) though, my anxiety is basically reduced to 0, depression and negative feelings are gone, and yes I do think differently but that's not exactly negative for me at all, it's not nearly as euphoric but it's the closest thing to opiates without being an opiate for me, in fact I have a cali green card but I can't make trips to the dispensary that often, but I really do love it.

The high I get from weed, though, is actually a lot LESS intense for me than opiates, I generally do 30-40mg of hydrocodone at a time when I want to do opiates. You could try scaling down the amount you smoke, or you could even try combining opiates and the mj, just don't smoke too much. What's your dose/opiate?
 
I had some major trouble with marijuana, but I can still smoke it now.

Especially the sativa strains, don't underestimate the adrenergic properties of a strong sativa. It leads to daaark thoughts. Sometimes I can only stand the indicas. Marijuana sometimes makes me feel like I might snap, whereas opiates are more relaxed (I have a tiny amount of experience but I've read things). Marijuana is usually not a mild drug. Just not very intense compared to smoked DMT. Yes, yes. Completely normal. Cannabis Indica feels a bit like an opiate, but it makes you feel dumber.
 
Thats really weird... usually if u have no problem wit smoking weed alone n an opiate is added it would make you wayyy less panicky and anxious... i used to(clean,been on methadone for 14months)LOVE rollin a biggg spliff after snortin four or five 80's. im in ontario canada, and ive got a drug plan/was paying $2 for my scripts of 160x80mg every 2.5weeks.
didnt take long for me to go from taking 1 a day with the coating on as prescribed for pain to crushing, then as soon as u feel that euphoria u can get from taking more than your supposed to, it can get verry ugly.
 
it could be you are "overdosing" (just taking more than ya should for pleasurable effects) on the weed. As you take opiates more, you expect weed to do less because it is clearly not as potent. However, your tolerance is going down since you are spending more time opiated than stoned. So when you do smoke, you are actually getting super high, higher than when you smoked more but with higher tolerance. Just a thought/possibility.
 
Strange. Now I have gone back to loving weed again... No more paranoia.. weird.
 
You just like an opioid high better. Not too big of a deal. I like my tramadol buzz much more than a weed buzz. Weed made me think about weird shit, too. But sometimes I liked that. Weed also made me paranoid and I couldn't be high in public. I usually smoked at night in my own privacy and enjoyed it. I remember taking tram and then several hours smoking marijuana caused some intense euphoria.

I haven't smoked since Jan 2009 and I really miss it, man. Weed is great. Especially in the privacy of your own place on occasion. Like every other day, or every night. Weed, for me, wasn't a drug I could use and then be all outgoing and sociable (unless I was with weed smoking friends).

I need to start smoking bud again soon.
 
cannabis is a powerfull psychadelic.. i don't smoke the strong stuff, only good hash or "normal" weed... coz the strong stuff fucks with my head too much... i stopped toking alltogether for 2 Years at one point coz the anxiety was so bad... now its ok, but if i toke more than 3 hits of some what we call "chemical weed" i get all self concious, sometimes paranoid, and stop speaking...
 
lol i made a thread about this a little while ago, should have read your post first. i'm in the exact situation you are, opiates have replaced weed. your description of opiates keeping you grounded is spot on. weed gives me a large amount of paranoia, whilst opiates remove even the slightest of anxieties for me
 
phatass said:
cannabis is a powerfull psychadelic.. i don't smoke the strong stuff, only good hash or "normal" weed... coz the strong stuff fucks with my head too much... i stopped toking alltogether for 2 Years at one point coz the anxiety was so bad... now its ok, but if i toke more than 3 hits of some what we call "chemical weed" i get all self concious, sometimes paranoid, and stop speaking...
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Eh I understand getting ripped to the point of acting two years old off chemical weed but a valium or a klonopin will reduce my paranoia to nil
 
I love opiates, and weed, but together is where I draw the line. Any more than one or two hits makes my body feel... too good, like I'm slowly dieing. I know I'm not during the experience, it's just not a feeling I can seem to enjoy...
 
my love for weed never wavered, even during the height of my opie use

OMG i love how weed really kicks in the nod and body sensations

i smoke much less on opies though, just enough to enhance the nod. so it doesn't get as trippy like if i smoke more
 
I had to stop smoking weed for 10 years because the shit fucked my head up too much.. lol Giving me a horrid case of panic disorder. Being an opiate lover I completely understand what you're saying... Now I just smoke cause it's a safe way to fall asleep with all the other meds im on... I put on some cartoons smoke a bowl.. giggle a bit and it's lights out! Other than that... Not a huge fan of weed but <3 Opiates <3
 
I do oxycontin every day and also smoke a considerable amount of bud in a day. I absolutely LOVE the high I get when I smoke on oxy. I also used to love just smoking weed by itself but now I don't enjoy that as much, it's like I have to be oxy to want to smoke and I end up smoking a shit ton when I'm fucked up because the high you get from the combo IMO is the best there is.
 
pot gives me real bad anxity had to go onto valium for it (and other reasons) i freak out when im stoned as fuck and i find out someones coming around and i have to act sober i get all quite and shy n cant look people in the eye i fucking hate it... i used to smoke atleast a gram n half a day and would be fine going to tafe n talkin to people n catchin the bus n shit when i was stoned...but as i have gotten older i find pot really fucks me around can only have it when i know for sure i wont have to act sober when im not or when im with good friends watchin tv or playing ps3 or some shit...for some reason i dont feel weed when im on smack is that normal???
 
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