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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Opiate withdrawal and medical condition.

tullaroo

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Just some background information. SWIM has chronic pain and Bipolar type 2.

SWIM was controlling his pain fine with Tramadol 100 - 200 mg. Because of his doctor, his scripts became smaller and less frequent. This might change in the future, but in the mean time he had to buy opiates illegaly to address my physical pain. He bought buprenorphine as these have a long half-life and are not as recreational. 8 mg was the only thing available, and he have had to split it into roughly four pieces ~2 mg. This has unfortunately increased his tolerance dramatically, and he has now had a daily opiate consumption for 2 months. Lately he has had some days where he has woken up and been pain-free, but later in the day felt some pretty harsh withdrawal effects (and no pain). Now as long as he had nearly daily chronic pain, the fact that he knew he was building dependence was easier to swallow, but now he is worried. He needs to reduce his tolerance down to pre-bup levels to have a sustainable use of scripted opioids. SWIM is seeing a specialist for his pain in a month or two, and would like to do a quick taper, and hopefully only use weaker opiates again. Hard meds are really overkill.

SWIM has gotten a hold of 20 x 10 mg valium, and would like some advice on how to attack this situation. He is not going off cold turkey.

SWIM is on Lamictal for BP2, and has been very effective in stabilizing him against the dopaminergic rollercoaster of painmeds. He is not too concerned about this part of the equation.
 
We don't use SWIM dude or doggy or catty or butthole or anything just say me. And wait I'm confused ? Subuxone 1 8 mg split into 4 pieces got you addicted into an opiate roller coaster did I read that correctly ? I've never heard of that lol... Were you addicted with tramadol already maybe I misread ? Cause even 200 mg tramadol ain't much to kick
 
Thank you for replying. I might just have to go cold turkey. The daily use, and the 2 mg a day suboxone has made me physically addicted. Tramadol was not strong enough to do that. I realise I might easily kick the habit if I want to, I just want to smoothly reduce my tolerance with some Valium to help ease the distress. I get really shaky and agitated, like I can´t concentrate on anything but the intense agitation when I go to long now without Subs. Tramadol was a more suitable opioid, but supply was tight.

I realise that this might not compare to heroin withdrawals. No I have not been on a roller coaster ride, I have steadily been consuming suboxone. But if you have a mental condition psychoactive drugs affect you greatly, and the fluctuations in dopamine and other neurotransmitters can be harsh. The Lamictal has luckily proven helpful here.

So with respect, you misunderstood me.
 
Okay so how long were you taking tramadol daily and how many mgs roughly daily? And than how long you take subs after that daily so I can measure it out in my head how bad and where you're at in terms of half life and just your receptors .
 
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