Opiate relapse almost two years clean, can this be for real?

[pasha]

but I wouldn't say he has sabotaged his recovery

The symptoms may be soft and the progress maybe mildly disrupted. Again this varies from person to person based on neurochemical/biochemical set up. What you must note though in most cases these disruptions in PAWS regression for single or several time use are 'under the hood' so to speak. For you they may manifest as muted symptoms but for others as in his case they can be unsparing to say the least.

From personal experience, I can tell you that a Tylenol 3 can send me into harsh withdrawals 6 months after ceasing use.

 

[phatass]

i would say its somatic ( i like that word hehe)

 

[Opidopecake]

Hello, I used opiates mostly oxycontin up to 240 mg day for 3 or four years, cold turkey quit 3 or 4 times then switched to suboxone 16mg/day for a faithful five years tapered and quit for two months relapsed on leftover subs and the switched to subutex because the naloxone in the subs made me paranoid and went another year at same dose on subutex tapered and quit and have been clean for almost two years. Always was the type who was very energetic on opiates go go go. I'm 27 now.

I took my brother to get surgery and the doc handed me his prescription for perc 10's and we went to his house so I could keep an eye on him. I took one and another one the next day, just wanted to remember what it was like, it was nice but made me remember the emotionlessness and lack of ability to hardly smile or laugh. My life has changed so much I knew there was no risk for full blown relapse haven't talked to any old friends since I started subs and I'm married with three kids now, would have a panic attack just going to try and score. Anyway the next couple days I woke up to full body goosebumps and in the nights had rls mostly in my arms and horrible anxiety, solidifying my knowledge that I could never even for surgery accept opiates, so thats a good thing. Now two weeks later I find my ability to withstand cold is gone and ciggarettes still taste nasty and give me a headache.

But my brain was healed how could two days of 10mg oxy set me back like that? As if my brain sprouted new receptors in just two days. I have always found the "withdrawal lasts two weeks" to be total bs, all the times I've quit there was no suddenly "I feel better" it was just a long gradual maybe every month I could notice I would feel a little better still not sleeping after 3 months kind of thing where your clothes feel so scratchy and there is no pleasure in anything, no comfort, extreme fatigue. Some people seem to snap back feeling better so fast but I would still have physical symtoms or severe paws even 6 months clean. Anyone else like that? Difference in genetics?

Maybe because I started young around 16 or 17 while my brain was still developing? or I remember hearing that cold turkey can damage your brain?

Hey, I'm sorry to hear that you messed up, but be thankful it was only 2 days! What you are experiencing is NOT withdrawl.... what it is, is most likely a panic attack caused by your guilt for what you did. This looks to me like a classic psychosomatic symptoms that you unknowingly brought on yourself, probably because of your fear to be pulled back down into addiction. Which makes sense, addiction sucks, but you will be fine just stay clean and you won't feel that way again. It is hard to stay clean especially when you get a bottle of opiates handed to you, at this point if someone handed me opiates i would relapse for sure. So don't feel bad, just realize a situation where it may be possible for you to relapse and don't put yourself in it. Next time you have to take someone to the Dr. who may get a script for painkillers, tell them that the script needs to go in their hands and only in their hands and kept with them. You don't have to explain yourself, just tell it how it is and it will help you stay clean. The best way and the easiest way to stay clean is if you stay away from your DOC. If you can do that, staying clean is much easier. Good Luck with staying clean, and be happy that you have been clean for so long, I can't wait until I can say that I have been clean for 1 year let alone 2! Good for you, don't be so hard on yourself. Your doing great. Now you just got to make sure that the opportunity to take opiates again doesn't happen.

OPIDOPECAKE