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One thing I've noticed about BL...

hahaha no I knew you'd come back with that.

Id call it semantics, and I think we can all see the hypocrisy of the comment still stands :)

If you're gonna preach tolerance.... be tolerant!
 
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ok, quit it all of you - it's poor form to go hunting other threads for previous comments then posting them in a current thread - it's being childish and showing personal grudges which bluelight is NOT a venue for. It's also poor form to bother biting back and even worse form to keep going on about it or to congratulate people on this behaviour. This isn't a high school playground.
 
No, its a message board and people should be accountable for what they say - nothing malicious has been said, only a hypocrisey pointed out.

I've seen many other bluelighters endure far worse before a moderator stepped in :\
 
The "Top40" commercial music listeners are actually quite a narrow demographic. They simply have disposible income, are easily marketed to... Actual overall music sales dwarf the proportion of those who rush out to grab the latest britney CD, however when tastes become more fractured and diverse they become more challenging targets for unified marketeering. Hence our media is saturated by mass cultural icons that comprise the largest slab of unified consumable mindshare.

Liking a form of music that is not 'commercial' (wrong word really, unless you got given it for free, all music is commercial) does not really make us unique, or even in a niche market. It simpy means we belong to pop-culture rather than mass culture. Pop-culture generally represents slightly oppositional discourses than the dominant mass culture. However, mass-culture often 'incorporates' elements of pop-culture to better capitalise on it. A good example is the jeans phenomenon. Remember the 80's when blue jeans were just the shit? Everybody wore them. Soon some rebels started to wear ripped jeans around as a fashion rejection of the mainstream. This got popular. So... Mainstream jeans manufacturers started selling, you guessed it, pre ripped jeans.

Somewhat like the rave scene. In a curious parallell, Just Jeans now sells phatpants. Of course that isn't what they call them, but they look exactly like fucking phat pants, and the advertisement has a ferry corsten backing track... See what is happening? Phatpants used to be something you sewed together with some cheap-ass fluffy shit you bought from lincraft, or purchased at some creepy elitist chapel st. scungehole like strange days. No more!

Commercial/mainstream is constantly in flux. Its one big inherent contradiction.
 
Baaaaaa what haste said.

Hmmm but i must agree with Kitty lets not make this board a forum for petty squabbling... eat your words and move on.

(Edited by Backo in the interest of a peaceful resolution)
 
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^^^ it's also a crap load of off topic posting over a pedantically small point. Which if I read correctly isn't really all that hypocritical at all - it certainly doesn't warrant being dragged up and posted in this thread, nor did it warrant all the further comments from all parties.

And as for others having it go further before a mod steps in - in a perfect world we’d be online 24/7 and catch everything first go but at the end of the day we’re human, maybe with all the technological advances one day we’ll have robots scanning the threads for us and catching it all straight away.

Furthermore, the constant sniping between these people is evidenced throughout many threads in this forum; they all need to cool it.

And back on topic:

I love top 40, then again I love all music, there is no one genre that I find more attractive than another, and they all have their place and time. I think you’ll find also that the “majority” of bluelighters are still found to be singing along to pop and will still enjoy a night out with mates and pop music, it’s the music purist who will dislike “commercial” music outright merely because it is commercial.

[edit] - meant for haste
 
You've made this into an issue Kitty not me - stop protecting him like a baby - it was all abit of fun - like I said nothing malicious was said....

fuck if it was me I would have laughed and took my medicine....
 
Re: Re: One thing I've noticed about BL...

Simon said:
there'll always be someone to tell you you should be listening to psy-trance
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hahaha yeah thats me lol but only because i think psy is the best music in the world and i love it with a passion and my whole body and soul and want everyone to feel like i do about it and have it do to them what it does for me =D

yes i do realise that not everyone will and everyone has their own tastes etc etc but i have always loved music of all kinds but i don't think i really LOVED music until i discovered psy ;)

but each to their own and i say that about everything...everyone is going to think their opinion is right because guess why? its THEIR opinion *shrugs*

i used to listen to top 40 before i discovered the whole dance scene and electronic music in general and i don't not listen to top 40 because it's commercial so to speak...just that i think its down right boring really :p i wouldn't even know what is in the charts in the last six months really 8(

i listen to psytrance 24\7 pretty much but i still love all my pre electronic music...it just doesnt do for me what it once used to :)
 
Here's a theory I've been formulating.....

There is nothing wrong with commercial top 40 music per sae, but there is *everything* wrong with the commercialisation of top 40 music.

Basically it's the idea that commercial music is crap simply because it gets blanket coverage on the radio, tv, in shopping centres, clubs etc..

And not necessarily because of any faults in the actual music itself.

I think of those channel 10 promo ads and that 104.1 Today FM ad where the pple are in the office getting naked. All good songs.. but because I hear them ad infinitum everytime I turn on the tv, I just dont want to listen to them casually...

Commercial music is the same.. we're bombarded with it everywhere we look.. so why the hell would you want to go out and buy the cd?
 
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I was thinkin that Haste.... but no need to say it now i suppose :p

Macksta, why is it songs get crap, just cause they get popular... If a song is good, then its good... sure it may get annoying after hearing it the 100th time in a row, but a simple remedy is to put on a cd, a tape...

i really hate that comment " Yeah i liked them before they became popular "

pfft, wank wank
 
I think you've got a good point - I know of a few songs that I liked but grew to hate due to radio bashing. For example, Metallica's Enter Sandman (shut up all you metallica purists :p ) - I'm not a big fan of the Black album, but I don't hate it - I actually liked the song when I first heard it - but radio got its hands on it and every second song on MMM was Enter Sandman - before too long it started to shit me to no end! - despite it still being a good song in my opnion.

So possibly constant exposure could make you view things differently?
 
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Easy Peasy...

I agree with you there haste, perfect example was 4 Strings - Take Me Away, that dodgy vocal mix of the good trance track. I LOVED (sadly past tense) the original version (4 Strings - Into The Night), and I actually enjoyed the vocal mix as well. BUT! Nova & every other pseudo-hip radio station got their hands on it and started flogging it to death and beyond, now while I can acknowledge that it is a decent enough vocal trance track, it shits me to the point of major irritation to hear it.

-plaz out-
 
ok, hard-nrg might be some what commercialised, but what i was trying to say was, that it made me dig deeper and find the best trance has to offer :D
 
i'd say the equation (as a generalisation, of course) is actually pretty simple.

[p1] most bluelighters are drug-users who want to minimise harm
[p2] anyone who wants to minimise harm, and actually seeks the info out, has at least some semblance of intelligent
[p3] "intelligent" people are more likely to listen to good music
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[c] bluelighters are more likely to avoid top forty music.
 
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