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theonlyjezzebelle

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Hey there everyone! So glad I found this forum. I have a quick question and I'm hoping someone can answer it because I simply can't find any research on the topic.

On 9.27 I had the Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy (VSG) surgery. Basically they remove 80-85% of your stomach. I'm wondering what the effects of E will be on me now that I have a stomach the size of a small banana - will they be more intense, better, worse, etc. Also, I know I'm not supposed to take anti inflammatory type pills (I can only take Vicodin..oh darn ;) ) because it'll eat away at the stomach lining and cause ulcers. I'm not sure if E will do the same thing.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated....because I so miss coming home after a long week and chilling at home with a glass of wine (and water) and floating :)

Many thanks in advance!
 
Good question, I know a friend who has rolled since having VSG, but whether it's a contraindicator to a healing stomach with a new shape I don't know.

Snorting MDMA may be an option, I beleive you'll avoid the stomach entirely.

Congrats, that is the BEST bariatric procedure out there.
 
Thanks so much for your response! I'm really excited about the surgery - I've lost 42lbs already! Still have like 80 to go - but I'm feeling better already. :) Snorting? I suppose that's better than plugging! LOL I guess I need to figure out if E falls in the same category as the anti inflammatory type pills - which is the only pill I"m supposed to avoid. Like I can't take asprin but I can take tylonol. Anywho - I'll continue to do more research. If you're friend is on the board I'd love to chat with her and see what their experience was.

Thanks again!
 
There are plenty of very active bariatric message boards out there you could ask, but you'll likely be met with hostility and ignorance from a lot of people.

I would check out the potential for ulcers from MDMA pills as an indicator. When are you considered fully "healed" with a secure stomach lining that is not at risk for leaks?
 
theonlyjezzebelle said:
Thanks so much for your response! I'm really excited about the surgery - I've lost 42lbs already! Still have like 80 to go - but I'm feeling better already. :) Snorting? I suppose that's better than plugging! LOL I guess I need to figure out if E falls in the same category as the anti inflammatory type pills - which is the only pill I"m supposed to avoid. Like I can't take asprin but I can take tylonol. Anywho - I'll continue to do more research. If you're friend is on the board I'd love to chat with her and see what their experience was.

Thanks again!
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If you need to bypass the stomach altogether, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss plugging. I think it's got something like 80% bio availability so it's actually more effective than both snorting and eating the E.
 
I'm an active member of one of the boards - but I'm afraid to ask the question because of the judgment I'll get. And they'd figure it out if I was like "I have this friend..." Before you leave the hospital they do a blue dye test to check you for leaks (I had a blue tongue for two days) - to be fully healed and able to have solid food it's like a month to 6 weeks. I've done some google research on ulcers and MMDA - but I'm not finding a definitive answer. Being a responsible drug user is hard work!
 
JSPete said:
If you need to bypass the stomach altogether, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss plugging. I think it's got something like 80% bio availability so it's actually more effective than both snorting and eating the E.
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I'll certainly keep that in mind - I'd really rather take it orally though... :)
 
many NSAID's (non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) such as aspirin, are hard on your GI (gastrointestinal) tract since they increase gastric acid secretion and decrease mucus secretion which can ultimately lead to damage (i.e. ulcers) with prolonged usage. I think you were just cautioned about NSAID's since they are well known to be particularly hard on your stomach.

MDMA shouldn't show the same effects, as it does not interfere with prostaglandin synthesis as aspirin does. However, it's definitely better to be safe than sorry, and you might be extra susceptible to whatever impurities might be present in the drugs you could potentially be taking.

Plugging is probably your safest ROA. Snorting would probably be better than oral, but the nasal drip will probably go down your throat to some extent (if you're really worried about avoiding your stomach. . .).
 
I am no professional, but I would try hard to avoid the stomach. MDMA wrecks digestion overall, why would it not interfere with the stomach?
I have heard digestion issues from MDMA abusers. Lord knows my digestive world turns to absolute hell after a .2 night. Its so obvious, have you never had issues like that? If I were you and I really wanted to get high I would not be afraid of the other ways of administrating. Better safe than sorry!
 
I remember FBC saying that a ton of your serotonin system is in the stomach, or something to that effect

so you might not have a very good roll...

if you do this though I would recommend plugging, because when you snort shit you get "the drip" and most of it goes to your stomach anyways
 
to OP, its not related to E but related to your stomach
you said you cant take any anti inflammatories right, well you DO know vicodin has APAP in it, which is an NSAID (APAP=tylenol).
Just makin sure your know.
 
I dont think Tylenol is a NSAID. Tylenol messes with your liver, not your stomach is my understanding.
 
Technically Tylenol is an NSAID, although its anti-inflammatory activity is very weak (compared to aspirin). Tylenol is more of an analgesic. It does not irritate your stomach nearly as much as some other OTC anti-inflammatory compounds, reason being it is more selective for the COX-2 enzyme (cyclooxygenase-2) whereas aspirin&friends bind both COX-1 and COX-2. Blocking the COX-1 enzyme leads to stomach problems.

Rebubula said:
I dont think Tylenol is a NSAID. Tylenol messes with your liver, not your stomach is my understanding.
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Many small molecule drugs are metabolized in your liver. One of the products of Tylenol metabolism (something a chemist would call "a p-benzoquinone imine") is toxic. It gets transformed into something non-toxic pretty quickly, but taking a lot of Tylenol would lead to elevated concentrations of a toxic chemical in your liver.

Folley said:
I remember FBC saying that a ton of your serotonin system is in the stomach, or something to that effect
so you might not have a very good roll...
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whaaaaaa....??? Dude, your "serotonin system" is not in your stomach :p
 
CandidChemist said:
whaaaaaa....??? Dude, your "serotonin system" is not in your stomach :p
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Your serotonin system is actually mostly in your gut... Although most is farther down than the stomach.

It regulates way more than your mood.... It plays a substantial role in digestion, the 5-HT receptors that affect your mood are however mostly in the brain.

As to the OP, it isn't a particularly corrosive substance. I would assume that it would't harm you significantly provided you give yourself enough time for a full recovery. I would advise disolving it in a bit of water or juice ad downing it like a shot, or maybe look up plugging if your comfortable with that. Snorting it also works.
 
jamaica0535 said:
Your serotonin system is actually mostly in your gut... Although most is farther down than the stomach.

It regulates way more than your mood.... It plays a substantial role in digestion, the 5-HT receptors that affect your mood are however mostly in the brain.

As to the OP, it isn't a particularly corrosive substance. I would assume that it would't harm you significantly provided you give yourself enough time for a full recovery. I would advise disolving it in a bit of water or juice ad downing it like a shot, or maybe look up plugging if your comfortable with that. Snorting it also works.
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This makes the most sense to me, VSG is a revolutionary surgery because it provides results similar to a gastric bypass without re-routing your G.I. tract. Ultimately, the result once you've healed is a normal stomach that just holds much smaller amounts of food. I would approach with caution, but I imagine once you're considered "healed" internally it's something you can enjoy again.
 
theonlyjezzebelle said:
Thanks so much for your response! I'm really excited about the surgery - I've lost 42lbs already! Still have like 80 to go - but I'm feeling better already. :) Snorting? I suppose that's better than plugging! LOL I guess I need to figure out if E falls in the same category as the anti inflammatory type pills - which is the only pill I"m supposed to avoid. Like I can't take asprin but I can take tylonol. Anywho - I'll continue to do more research. If you're friend is on the board I'd love to chat with her and see what their experience was.

Thanks again!
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Actually I suggest plugging waaaaay longer duration, snorting is only good to make the peak more intense imo...
 
JSPete said:
If you need to bypass the stomach altogether, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss plugging. I think it's got something like 80% bio availability so it's actually more effective than both snorting and eating the E.
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I see plugging as little more that a novelty ROI for most but the OP is the first poster I have seen who could acctually benefit from it. get past you aversion to plugging...read up on how to do it correctly and roll face.

I think plugging is the safest way for you to roll in this situation.
 
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