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Ofc i was gonna relapse, fk this shit is taking a toll on my mental health. Please help guys :(

Yeah I'll check in here and put my hand up as someone who has relapsed countless times also, been trying to get and stay clean for maybe eight years or so now. I've had periods of success and periods of failure. There have been times when I went to bed each night hoping not to wake up in the morning and there have been periods where I have been very happy and motivated. I have made some good decisions and I have made some bad decisions. That stuff is my truth and gaining acceptance around who I am an what I have done and learning to be ok with that has been massively helpful.

I've been relapsing a lot over the last few months but I'm doing many things better than I used to like eating healthy, communicating with people, socialising, keeping fit etc. I had a long period of relatively clean time and I started to learn how to engage in self-care and become more self-aware and this has lessened the impact of that relapse to some degree. I dont hate myself anymore and rebounding from relapse and seeing a positive pathway is so much easier now.

I guess what I'm trying to communicate is that it doesnt matter how many times you have relapsed, your journey is yours not anyone else's. When I was in that dark place where I just hated myself and couldn't see a way out, and it seems you're feeling a bit like that now. Try to identify the small wins that you can achieve easily that will make you feel good about yourself and provide a foundation and structure that will make it easier to move towards where you want to be. Dont underestimate the value of doing a couple of really small self-care tasks each day....tidy the house, do some laundry, eat healthy, go to the gym, actively communicate with friends etc etc. That stuff makes a MASSIVE difference for me and although things are not perfect now the overall picture is so much better than it used to be, I feel like I'm making progress.

Great post! *****

yes, you must take small victories and be proud of yourself when you get the small wins.
the baby steps forward.

I stick to my prescription pretty good.
This is the first major wipe out in a long time.
it happens.
I need this stuff for chronic pain too.
it is hell otherwise.
that goes to show you how strong that pull is at times.

You have to be your own cheerleader (we will be your cheerleaders too and people to talk to who understand.)
Family is not going to see any improvement for quite awhile,
but, you can improve.
I believe if you do it slowly and give your brain a chance to make other receptors that you can skip the post acute withdrawal.
That is where everyone usually fails.
You need to give your brain a chance of recovery.

That is why I think a small daily prescription could work.
Taper down.

You May be at the point of needing suboxone due to the “Lifestyle” change.
that is up to you.

I am sorry you are going through this. ☹

Eating healthy, music therapy, meditation, aromatherapy, baths with Epsom salts, exercise, making sure you shower and put on nice clothes everyday, keep your environment clean and nice, a change of scenery really helps.
Just a new bedspread or carpet. Some small thing that makes your environment a place you like to be.
Get healthy. Fake it until you make it my friend.

Love you so much!
Do not give up!
Think about getting help from a doctor.
 
Shit Bro!
sorry. I just saw your thread.
I have not read through it all yet.
I am without my MS Contin right now and have been for almost 8 days now.
I had A very bad month and ran out way early.

I have been using a little kratom and a little loperamide and things have not been too bad.
Things have not been very good either.

Withdrawal absolutely is hell!

You seem to be pretty far into the “lifestyle” of using drugs.
I am thinking that maybe you should give suboxone or subtext a try.
I was originally against that but you are using way high doses and you are into the “lifestyle”.

Subutex might give you a chance to regain your life without having to worry about withdrawal.
Then you could go about making very, very small cuts over a few years time.

It is impossible to just cold turkey along with cleaning up your entire lifestyle, fighting off cravings, repairing relationships,
finding a good job and maintaining that.

That May be a good route of action for you to take.

(Let me see what everyone is recommending)

Hang in there!
When there is a will, there is a way.

PS: I have a question for you.
If you were being prescribed MS Contin (a long lasting morphine pill) would you be able to stick to a daily schedule?
Would you be able to not abuse that prescription by shooting up etc?
Would you be able to work and interact with others if you were prescribed 75-90 mg morphine a day?
Yes, ofc i could maintain on 90mg daily, thing Is i dont have money ATM.to go to a pain doc. Also pain meds arent widespread here,90% ppl are so ignorant they think morph Is okly for ppl who are dyin. Suboxone Is off tur table since thst doesn't exist ik ly country, methadone Is rarely prescribed too. I've Been refucing my dose I'm at 40mg daily injected ATM. Gonna attempt again to go clean uu
 
Yes, ofc i could maintain on 90mg daily, thing Is i dont have money ATM.to go to a pain doc. Also pain meds arent widespread here,90% ppl are so ignorant they think morph Is okly for ppl who are dyin. Suboxone Is off tur table since thst doesn't exist ik ly country, methadone Is rarely prescribed too. I've Been refucing my dose I'm at 40mg daily injected ATM. Gonna attempt again to go clean uu

I feel like you're jumping off too much. Even if you're doing Morphine IV and some benzos (and/or other Gaba drugs, it was unclear to me), you should be stepping down slower. As in, 10mg, down, hold for a week or two, 10 mg down, hold for a week or two. Oh no! I got w/d symptoms, up 5mg. Repeat until clean. You should not be feeling good at all during w/ds ime. I'm not some sadist, but detox is detox!
 
I feel like you're jumping off too much. Even if you're doing Morphine IV and some benzos (and/or other Gaba drugs, it was unclear to me), you should be stepping down slower. As in, 10mg, down, hold for a week or two, 10 mg down, hold for a week or two. Oh no! I got w/d symptoms, up 5mg. Repeat until clean. You should not be feeling good at all during w/ds ime. I'm not some sadist, but detox is detox!
Nah man, bcz I've Been only using for a month. That Would only apply for a year+ habit.
 
Nah man, bcz I've Been only using for a month. That Would only apply for a year+ habit.

Then dude, it'll be easier. No cake walk, but easier than a multi-year habit, no?
 
Then dude, it'll be easier. No cake walk, but easier than a multi-year habit, no?
Yeah,indeed. Since the president from my country just gsve Tyr order thst no one can leave their houses for 15 days. I did a 40mg last shot today AND stock up with clonazepam, lots of pentin AND loperamide. I think i csn make it this Time. Got 15 days, wish me luck guys :)
 
I would give quetiapine a try, but it would be nicer to speak with a doctor about that.. I find it a good alternative to benzos, generally speaking, not specifically in the context of opioid withdrawal, it will knock you out so that you be sleeping most of the time
 
That's really interesting. Would you mind elaborating on that a little more?
The other end of that is like let's say every Saturday I have to go to a favorite restaurant or every Sunday I have to go to church let's say You're really religious still go to church but go to the earlier or later service see what that crowd is like or try a different Church of the same denomination

Am I say you have a favorite pizza place you go to every Saturday and you're really really rigid then try a different pizza place on the same Saturday but it'll be a new type of pizza and then there's something new about the experience.

Sometimes by breaking habits you have to keep breaking habits or whatever you are doing becomes habitual.
 
I would give quetiapine a try, but it would be nicer to speak with a doctor about that.. I find it a good alternative to benzos, generally speaking, not specifically in the context of opioid withdrawal, it will knock you out so that you be sleeping most of the time
Well Bro, I've done my fair share of Seroquel. But I'll pass fk antipsychs.
 
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