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Of course it would wind up like this; A bit depressed (SUPER Long)

DexWeedAndMe

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Forewarning: This is going to be really, really long (like, this may be the longest thing ever typed onto BL, seriously). It's a long story in general, and I've taken 70 mg of Adderall. Anyone not interested in reading, feel free to go back. I won't judge (or know, haha) To those who do read, I really, really appreciate your patience, more than you could begin to realize.

Ok, I recently posted a thread in OD about drugs which inhibit orgasm. Those who read it may already know the backstory, to those who don't....

So, my best friend in the universe came back to town from LA for New Years. He picked me up around 2AM on New Years Eve (so, just as New Years Eve had begun) and brought me back to his house. He was having a party that night. New Years Eve goes on, and people begin showing up fairly early that night (around 8PM). Well, these two sisters show up, and the younger one IMMEDIATELY catches my eye. Well, I head back to my town (he lived in the town over from mine before he headed off) with a couple of friends and the girl who'd caught my eye to grab some weed for the party. At some point on the weed trip, she'd gotten cold, so I, in true chivalrous fashion, give her my coat, and proceed to freeze my balls off. Well, we wind up back at his house, and it had completely exploded with people. Like, my mind was blown by the amount of people who had shown up while we were gone.

So, I go off and do my thing for a bit. Smoke some bud with some people (high-grade that ended up getting stolen, along with my only piece), and whatever. The night goes on and I head upstairs to see what's going on. Well, the girl ends up asking me to dance. So I'm like, "Why not?" Of course, this was the dancing which is more reminiscent of vigorous dry-humping. Enjoyed myself with that, for sure. Well, I end up going off afterwards and getting (more) drunk. Some douchebag had shown up and was being kind of a cockblock. I'm generally not an angry person, but this is one of those people that you just look at and become enraged. So, in order to keep myself from disrespecting my friends house and knocking the piss out of this guy, I go and continue to party. Had a really good night.

Wake up the next day, and the chicks are still there. A buddy of mine (for anonymity purposes, he'll be Eric) had come down from out of town and needed a place to stay. Well, my door is always open. I don't currently have a license due to some legal issues in the past (everything is good now, but it's so expensive to take the class, so I'm just waiting a couple months until I turn 19. 10x cheaper, literally ($32 compared to $300) but my dude had a car. So I'm like, "Hey, let's hang with these chicks." So, we do some bullshitting, and wind up finding a party to hit up in my town that night (still Jan. 1st). So, we pick up my friend who had come in from LA, grab a case of Budweiser and go to party. Now, this wasn't really a "party" per se, but a gathering. About 10-15 people drinking, listening to music and socializing. So, we show up, I go around and socialize for a few minutes, the usual.

Now, I'd just met these chicks the night before, but we'd been with them all day, so we'd kinda started to get to know them. I look over to the couch, and see the girl I was interested in sitting there by herself, while everyone (her sister included) was up socializing. So, I go and sit down with her, start up a conversation and whatever. All the while, I'm steadily getting more drunk. She'd said earlier on in the day, "I wanna dance with you again soon. Out of all the people I danced with last night, you were the best." Which was abso-fucking-lutely great, as I'm a skinny white boy with no rhythm whatsoever (or so I thought). Well, there was nothing with an aux plugin with which to put on good grinding music. We'd been listening to the XM music channels on dude's TV. She ends up deciding that the reggae channel was the most suitable for her intended purposes. So, we get up, she starts grinding all up on my junk, I'm quite well enjoying myself, so on and so on. Well, we sit back down on the couch, and I put my arm around her. Was kind of concerned that she might not be about it, but she snuggled up against my chest (which was beyond wonderful. I absolutely love to cuddle.) and we do some more talking.

At some point (by this time I'm fairly intoxicated, so some details are fuzzy, but not others) we start feeling each other up and making out. Someone had cotton candy, and she was feeding it to me with her lips. One of my friends comes over, and we say a few things to each other, and he makes mention of me being a virgin. She's like, "What, you're a virgin? No way?" and I make up some excuse relating to chicks at my old high school being really nasty. The actual reason being, I've had a lot of dental work to be done due to a birth defect from childhood (cleft lip). My teeth used to be really screwy, and it required surgery and braces to fix. Just got the braces off a few months ago, so I'm just now at my full "attractiveness potential." There was also the matter of not having a license, therefore not being able to "wine-and-dine" women (or bring them to my place to do the deed). So, said friend goes on somewhere, and we get back to making out. At some point, she starts going on about "Oh.. If I take your virginity, I'll just feel like such a thief. Fuck." Which was definitely a good sign. Well, I say some things which I'll never remember, then more making out.

Then, the friend who had mentioned me being a virgin, came back over and jokingly insulted me. So I'm like, "Man, can't be letting ya say that. I'm a man, damn it!" and she makes some comment about, "You can't call yourself a man yet, you haven't even had sex!" So I'm like, "Oh, so are you gonna make me a man?" She chuckles and says yes. So, I talk to my friend who'd come in from LA, and ask him if we can head back to his place. He's cool with it, so we leave.

On the ride back, more making out, along with her telling me how we were gonna go back to his place and fuck in the shower, then in the bed. JACKPOT. So, we get back to his place, and head up to the guest bedroom. Lights are off, and she lies down. I lie down next to her, put my arm around her, and wake up. My inebriated, stupid ass had fallen asleep on her. I sleep like a rock too, even sober. Apparently she actually tried jumping on me to wake me up. FML.

So I wake up the next day (Jan 2nd), hating myself. But it doesn't end here. Not by a long shot. I don't really remember what all went down that day (the whole first week of 2013: Party like hell New Years Eve, party New Years Night, a day or two of relative sobriety iirc, a night of 25-B, and a night in which a gallon of vodka went between about 5 people. Hard to keep track of what happened when.) but I do know they left with another friend of mine, and then we met up with them a few hours later at another guys house. She and I cuddle up under a blanket, so I was pretty sure it hadn't just been the alcohol in her system the prior night. We end up taking them home later that day. Then, Jan. 3rd rolls around, and I'm like, "Screw this. I'm remedying my fuckup from the other night." Give 'em a call, "Hey, I've got a bunch of 40's. Wanna come drink with myself and Eric?" They were down. So we go and get 'em.

Now, the prior day, the girl I was interested in (from here onward she'll be referred to by the pseudonym Christina) had missed court, because she was worried about failing her DT. The whole reason she was on court shit was ridiculous anyway. Her parents had filed a petition with the court to have their involvement in disciplining her. She hadn't even done anything illegal (and gotten caught, at least). Her parents just didn't wanna do their damn jobs. Would have rather had the court do it. Which irritates the absolute hell out of me.

So, we're rolling into my town, when I get a call from Mom. "Hey, are you with some girl named Christina?" Me, mentally: "Fuck. I know what this is about." Physically: "Yeahhh, why?" Mom: "Ok, well (don't remember) and anyway, this cop is about to call you. Answer and talk to him." So, I naturally turn my phone off as soon as I get off the phone with Mom. I discuss what we're going to do with them, and we decide to take them home.

So, she ends up getting locked up for like, a week or so, which I find out from her sister. She gets out, and hits me up on FB. "Hey, I'm out. On house arrest for the next 2 months." Well, that sucks, yeah. But I keep on talking to her. She thanks me for being so kind and shit, and tells me how awesome I am. She has literally told me how awesome I am 20 times, easily. Not bragging, by any means, just a semi-important detail to the story. She's a cool ass chick as well, and I tell her that. Well, I ask her if she's starting to get used to house arrest yet. She says she's not, and starts telling me about some suicidal feelings she's been having. How she's always getting used and fucked over by people... stuff like that.

Now, I've always been very good at being an "amateur therapist." Used to be how I tried to get women. I'd think, "Well obviously if I can be there it will show how much I care and good things will happen." That was many, many friendzones ago. Finally got the hint after the last one. Be that as it may, I couldn't just sit there and not use the skills I've gained from helping women I'm interested in with their problems. So we talk. I say some stuff. It helps. She tells me things like, "You're such a wonderful person. I'm so blessed that I've met you. You're a real gem," and "You have managed to brighten my day quicker than anyone, ever. This talk we've had tonight has really changed my life, I feel. Thank you so much, you're such a great guy." Which made me feel awesome. If anyone actually manages to read this far, and has some advice about whether or not I should be worried about getting friendzoned while she's on house arrest, that would be grand.

So, we keep talking and whatever, it's cool, I'm enjoying it. Well, I was texting her tonight, and it was going good. Then, out of the blue, she's like, "Ugh, I'm so fucking angry." Me: "What's wrong? :/" Her: "My folks are talking about taking me back to juvie." Me: "Niggawhaat? Why? Wtf?" Her: "I gotta fucking go they're taking the phone."

Annnnnd, Here I am now, with no clue what's going on. Not even sure if she's still even in the free world. The whole situation is depressing the shit out of me. Because initially, yes, I just wanted to get some ass. "Random chick at a party, really beautiful, obviously interested. A chance to lose the virginity? I'm inserting myself in this girl." But as we've been talking, I've started to develop feelings for her. She's really cool, really beautiful, parties, which is always a plus, and when she was talking about how all these people who were supposed to care have fucked her over, it was like "Why? She doesn't deserve that. She's really great. I wanna be the one to show her that not everybody is a mindless asshole only concerned with their own agenda."

I just think it's completely fucked that the situation has played out as it has. I can't see her, unless I sneak over to her house while her folks are asleep, which could result in both trespassing charges, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor (as I'm almost 19, and we'd likely be drinking or something). With that being said, I'd still risk it (I'm finding out the heart overrules the head, apparently), and have tried. She fell asleep the first night, and her Mom decided she was gonna sleep in the basement (her area) last night. Won't be able to see her, without it being a pain in the ass and me putting myself at risk, for the next 2 months. So much could happen in that time. I could begin to bore her, or get placed in the friendzone, because I feel as though I'm going to have to be doing a lot of my "Dr. DexWeedAndMe" routine, as she's likely gonna stay pretty bummed about how her life is going. There are just so many variables which could end this badly.

The truth is, I've never had a "real" girlfriend, due to the circumstances mentioned some 12,000 paragraphs ago. I'm not an unattractive guy. Just required a lot of work on the teeth while I was younger. I feel as though, had I looked as I do now while I was in High School, and had my license, things would have played out differently. I don't necessarily think I have a bad personality either. I don't think I'm an asshole, or incredibly unintelligent. Those whom I care about, I care about more than words can describe, more than life itself.

Now, this really great girl has appeared in my life, and I care for her. It hurts me deeply to see her having to deal with what she's dealing with, and it scares the hell out of me to know that, over the course of two months, she may lose interest in me. It gives me hope that she tells me how great I am all the time, and that she's blessed to have me in her life, but I have a tendency to over-think things. I'm not looking for pity with this next statement, I promise. I've just been so lonely for so long. All I want is a girl I can call my own; Spend time with, cuddle up and watch a movie with, take out to dinner, and just have by my side as I fall asleep. That would honestly make me so much happier than anything I can begin think of. From the beginning, this situation made me happy. "Gonna get some vag, hooray!" then I started to catch feelings for her, and I'm still happy that she randomly popped into my life. But now that I've started to develop feelings, it's added a whole new dynamic. Ok, so I don't get laid by some random chick I found attractive? That's happened with every attractive girl I've ever been around. Whatever. But I feel as though I have a good chance of a relationship with this girl. Well, if it weren't for this stupid situation, I'd think so. However, as previously stated, so many things can happen in 2 months, and I'm super discouraged now.

Well, that's it. I'm done, finally. If anyone has any input on the situation whatsoever, I would be so much more than happy to have it. I feel somewhat pathetic getting all caught up like this over some chick I've known for only 2 weeks, but, the heart wants what the heart wants, I suppose. Thank you VERY much to those who took the time to read this (if anyone), it means more to this random internet stranger than you could realize, for real.
 
I actually sought out this thread deliberately (I saw you mentioned it in your thread about drugs that inhibit orgasm in men in BDD) because the way it sounded like you were thinking in that other thread sort of reminded me, in a way, of how I was thinking when I was your age (not that I am very much older now but I have grown a lot as a person since then), so I thought perhaps I could give you some advice that you might appreciate (or you might not, but I am gonna give it anyway having read that long-ass post :)).

I don't really want to go into too much detail because our situations are as far as specifics of the situations go, fairly different but I think they are also fundamentally very much the same.

I will just say I remember being 19, never having had a real relationship or any real sexual experience with a girl, and feeling pretty down about having blown my chance with a girl who had shown me some attention and I thought I really liked. Circumstances pulled us apart and yeah I was pretty cut up about the whole thing, I remember my whole thought process pretty well, thinking what kind of a man could I be having had so many opportunities before now, and all sorts of unhelpful self-deprecating thoughts that you generally have when you are young and insecure.

In my case, it didn't work out at all, she quickly realised that she wasn't that interested in me after all which obviously just brought me down more. In your case it might be different, but I am not going to say one way or the other in this post what's likely to happen because I don't know you and I don't know this girl.

You say that this situation is complicated now by the fact that you've developed feelings for the girl. I am going to be a little harshly reductivist here (I think I'm entitled from, again, having been in a very similar situation) but frankly it is probably inevitable given the situations you've described that you would develop feelings for this girl. In addition, although you say it is not only that you are unhappy that you might not now get laid, I think that this fact is playing a larger part in your feelings that you probably want to admit, even to yourself (which is perfectly normal, don't get me wrong).

It is obvious from your post that you feel some regret or disappointment that your high school years did not play out differently. I really do sympathise with those feelings because when I was 19 I also felt very similarly, I perceived that in the past I had been held back by things about myself that I could not control (in my case, minor disabilities that had much less relevance than I attributed to them, and a continuous undercurrent of anxiety that developed in my teens - I don't want to go into any more detail again because it is not really important). I want to stress here that I am not disputing whether or not your specific situation, having a cleft lip, or my situation, held us back in the past - indeed, they probably did. What I will say however is that, as cliche as it is, you will eventually realise that these things just don't matter in the slightest.

So this brings me to the main point I wanted to make. You mention in your post that you probably overthink things a lot. In this you are most definitely not wrong. You seem insecure about being sexually inexperienced - society, and the false reality that is high school has told you that to be a 19 year old virgin is somehow wrong and makes you less of a person. You are not alone in this, and when I was 19 I felt very similar even if I wouldn't have admitted it to myself, at least not in these words. I am 25 now and honestly I can look back at my younger self and laugh at the ridiculousness of my more immature thought processes.

The fact is, everyones' situation is different and everyone develops in every area of life at a different rate, and sometimes this rate of development is affected by things that we cannot control. If your high school years had gone differently, the fact is you would not be the person you are. You sound like a very caring and balanced individual. If you had been born looking like Adonis and spent your high school years sleeping around as much as possible, you might not be... or maybe you would, but the fact is it impossible to say and in any case, completely irrelevant.

Essentially what I am trying to say is (and this is the advice I wish someone would have given me when I was 19 - although I probably wouldn't have taken it)... WORRY LESS. ABOUT EVERYTHING. Regarding the sex thing - when it happens it will happen, and you will realise how pointless it was to waste so much mental energy being insecure about it beforehand. Regarding the situation with this girl specifically - this situation, like the cleft lip you were born with, is something that is OUT OF YOUR CONTROL. Life is about accepting what you cannot change, and working tirelessly to change what you can. Be proud of the person that your experiences have made you. The past is something else that YOU CANNOT CHANGE. ONLY THE FUTURE IS IMPORTANT.

If it is meant to be, then a few months in juvie will not be enough to stop if from being. If it is not meant to be, then you should look at these few months as a blessing, as they have brought a quicker end to a situation that was never going to work out anyway.

This post turned out much longer than I meant it to be, but, in any case, please take from it what you will. I hope you find it of some benefit. :)
 
Hm, I could've swore I responded to this last night. Granted, I was far too drunk, so there's no telling what happened..

Anyway, first off, thanks for taking the time to sit there and read the little mini-novel I wrote for the people of BL. I definitely appreciate it.

I think you may be right about the potential situation of not getting laid playing a larger part in this despite what I'm telling myself. I mean, as bad as this sounds, I'd like to at LEAST get some ass out of the situation. Especially after having come so close in the day or two following New Years. There aren't words to describe how angry I am at myself for that one. I think you're also right in saying that it was probably inevitable that I'd develop some degree of feelings. I mean, a beautiful woman showing me some attention? This is definitely a first, haha. Feels good though, no denying that.

Yeah, I'd definitely say that there's some regret about how my High School years played out in terms of relationships. By no means am I a cocky person, but I will say that I knew a lot of guys who I felt to be less genuinely good-hearted people than I, who still managed to get women. That always kind of irritated me, just because I feel as though, while they only had one thing on their mind, I was (and still am) looking for someone with whom I can share a real emotional connection. I've always said that I'd likely be happier spending a night cuddling on the couch and watching movies than getting laid. Affection is important to me, and I believe it's important to find someone with whom I can share my affection.

I can see where you're coming from in saying that these things didn't play as much of a role as we would have ourselves believe, though I still do think, in my situation at least, it played some role. Not only did it detract from my physical attractiveness, but it also took away some of the confidence which I've found to be so important when it comes to women. "Why would a chick want a dude with super fucked up teeth?" Etc. etc. I do, however, feel as though the lack of confidence in myself played a more important factor than the initial issues.

Yeah, I definitely would say that I overthink things too much. You made mention of having some trouble with anxiety, and I can completely relate. I think that a lot of the anxiety I feel (and perhaps you, as well) is a result of overthinking things. Rather than just going with the flow which life provides, I think about all the possible outcomes and scenarios, and ask myself, "Well, what if this? What if that? Should I have maybe done this differently?" rather than just taking life as it comes. I myself am not particularly concerned by being 19 and a virgin, however, I am concerned by the views of society. Though I would rather have had sex by this point in life, it's not necessarily too big of a deal to me personally. As I said, I'm more concerned about just having someone with whom to be affectionate. But the views of other people on the situation do make it a bit of a nuisance.

Thank you for the kind words. I'd like to think of myself as a caring person, especially in relation to those who are important in my life. There is no possible way to measure how much those I care about mean to me, and I would do anything for them. Honestly, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're 100% right. I am the way I am now because of how the past has played out for me. In theory, had I done a whole lot of sleeping around in High School, I could've turned into something that the person I am now would have no respect for. By that token, it was actually a blessing in disguise.

Yeah, I do what I can to keep from worrying. Something about the levels of chemicals in my brain just lends it to worrying, I suppose. Though you're definitely right in saying that I need to worry less. I wish it were as easy as I'd like it to be, but even though that isn't the case, you're right in suggesting that to be what I should do. You're also right in saying that it's all out of my control. Things will happen as they do, and all I can do is hope that they play out for the best. If they don't, there's not really anything I can do about it. I am very proud of the person my experiences have shaped me into being. Actually, this morning (while I was drunk), I made some mention to Mom about going to the strip club (we have a very open relationship, and I'm straightforward with her as often as possible) and she started going on about how she was surprised I would go to a place like that, as the women there degrade themselves so much, and I'm generally pretty compassionate when it comes to the fairer sex. Not tooting my own horn, by any means, just providing an example as to how I've turned out in regards to women. That's something that I'm proud of. While a lot of people just want to get sex, and could care less about the feelings of the woman, I can't bring myself to do it. Women are the greatest thing on this Earth. I couldn't imagine a life without them, and as such, I have MUCH respect for them.

Again, you are right in saying that things will play out as they should. If I could fast-forward into the future a couple of months, I might could see how things have played out and change my conduct relating to the situation accordingly. However, since that's not possible, I think I'll just stick with expecting the worst and hoping for the best. Though it would probably be even more wise to just have no expectations whatsoever. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and offer your insight. It means more to me than you could possibly imagine, and I think you're a pretty wise person. I'm glad that you are able to relate so well to my particular situation. Hopefully by the time I'm 25, I'll be able to look back on this with the hindsight that you seem to have. Thank you again, and may peace find you in all of your endeavors!
 
I stopped reading after (and I can't believe I made it this far) this:
She's really great. I wanna be the one to show her that not everybody is a mindless asshole only concerned with their own agenda.

And in the same exact paragraph you said:
initially, yes, I just wanted to get some ass. "Random chick at a party, really beautiful, obviously interested. A chance to lose the virginity? I'm inserting myself in this girl."

And honestly, what is IT that you are actually trying to gain advice on? All you really want to know is if you are going to get
friendzoned" by a girl who is on house arrest?
 
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