Octsober!!

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good luck everyone. heres some things im going to try and do instead of trying to get spun every night...

work out
eat alot
cook alot
go to concerts/parties (STS9 on the 23rd!)
walk in central park (its FALL!!!)
play pool
work more (booooo)
get laid

You really need to take a break. I was young dumb and spun for a few years and it took me awhile to recover. I used to follow STS9 around back in the day as well (2000 to about 2006). Don't really like the new stuff.
 
Day one of Octsober down...sober. At least I'm in bed getting ready to turn out the lights, so I'm sure I'm too lazy to walk downstairs and get a drink.

My plan for starting yesterday didn't work...had someone offer me an open beer and couldn't bring myself to turn it down.

Super paranoia today for some reason (might be the bowl from last night). The pyschological desire for booze was almost unbearable. At one point I was wringing my hands together to keep from pouring a drink. Some mood swings and impatience this evening but I knew why so I was able to control myself.

The only thing that kept me from pouring a drink was how much I didn't want to come here and say I couldn't even make it one day. We'll see what tomorrow brings, it's Friday but no big plans so I'm not going to drink just to drink!
 
^ Great work on getting through day 1 :) With alcohol, even though the primary WDs and super-cravings last a couple of days, proving to yourself that you can make it one day sober is a HUGE deal. When you wake up tomorrow and reflect on what you accomplished today, you'll feel very proud. Some of the terror will be gone, since you'll know that if you can do one, you can do two...Great work not giving into temptation.

belarki - good work man! You Aussies technically are leading the pace! The sleep should normalize in 3 or 4 nights, and when it does you'll feel sooo good that first night of like 8+ hours and waking up without a hangover.

phactor - glad to have you on board. Sounds like you've got a lot of motivators for staying sober. As you said, I think that if you can do this, by the end of the month your mentality will have changed very much, and for the better.

Ghettochrist - good job as well getting through day 1. I hope you feel proud waking up tomorrow.

I am doing alright. Craving mentally, but not so much physically. I've been very physically active and using an extensive vitamin and supplement regime, along with the blessed gabapentin (and the not-so-blessed NyQuil) to help me stay calm and be able to sleep. Found out that an old friend of mine just opened his own bar in town :\ Looks like I'll be making an excuse in my near future (to him, not to you guys).
 
Drove to and from the city for the first time since I've been clean tonight. It was REAL weird not taking that exit. Even stranger driving home on that same road I always did without any shit on me.

I don't plan on doing this again anytime soon.

I also have to start my 90 and 90 all over again. Not too worried about that though. I plan on being in the program for some time so it'll happen eventually

Oh! I also ran a half mile yesterday. Not bad for a heavy smoker. I hurt today though
 
^^ Great work man! You should try to keep up the running. Add some magnesium supplement to your diet and you'll suffer much less from muscle fatigue/cramps/soreness. it will also help you relax and sleep better. Also make sure you're eating enough calcium to help absorb the Mg effectively.

Ryka, I'm proud of you hun!! Day 1 down, piece of cake %)
Any time you need to talk to a fellow girly alcy, I'm only a PM away <3

belarki, great work on staying sober yesterday mate!! Me too :)
I did copious amounts of exercise to overcome the cravings. At about 7pm I could've KILLED for a drink, but nooooope. Made it through.
Us Aussies are indeed leading the way!!!! Go Team!! =D <3
 
Oh, soz - forgot the other info I meant to post - below is an idea of the kinds of drugs I've been involved with, roughly in order of how much I like them:

1) Psychedelics - These are the 1st drug group I was interested in. Organic psychs are generally my favourites (I rank cannabis generally as a fairly mild member of this group despite its range of effects) although not exclusively so. My use generally averages out at about once monthly. I have never really felt out of control with any of these drugs thankfully. That average does include many months in which I haven't used before (for a variety of reasons - I've never specifically banned myself before) so I know it can easily be done. The temptation to go get some weed and skin up a joint will be strong by mid-month and easy to argue for "it's only a bit of pot...." but I'm aiming to be as clean as possible and swapping one substance for another would be all too easy with my personality. All psychs are gonna be off limits for the month at least. Whether I want to quit 'em completely in the longer term is doubtful, I shall have to see. At least a month without will provide space for reflection on my long term use of drugs in general.

2) Opiates. Originally prescribed for lower back pain. I fell in love with the opiate experience and got hooked, getting whatever I could from whatever sources - not just the doctor. Eventually got completely clean of them and since have just used one of my least favourite (Dihydrocodeine) about 1-2 times per month as a "reward". This is what really convinced to take part in Octsober since I increasingly view this state of affairs as a mug's game and I have found it annoying having to still consider myself actively addicted over such a pathetic amount (which as a realist I must). I was posting in a different thread the reasons why I thought this habit would not escalate and should prove easy to quit and heard my conscience say "prove it then"! Originally I was going to rule out any opiate/opioid use at all during the month but then I was scheduled for surgery on the 5th and so had to rethink and allow for strictly therapeutic doses as prescribed by a doctor (as allowed under the octsober rules)for post operative pain. I'll try and avoid this by using alternatives but if I really need it to keep myself comfy then as long as use, not abuse, 'em then I won't count myself as having failed. Included in this group by me for its similar effects is the atypical analgesic Tramadol. I am one of the (lucky?) few who got heavily addicted to this stuff. It made me ridiculously high and was harder to quit than Morphine. No, seriously! As a result I won't be risking taking any even for the pain. There are always other analgesia options available as long as the doctors don't suddenly get awkward on me and I have a list of "symptoms" of other typical Tramadol side effects to excuse my not wanting to take it.

3) Benzodiazepines. Originally prescribed for anxiety, insomnia or as muscle relaxants. I started to self-medicate with this drug group, for similar symptoms and also if I'm strictly honest sometimes out of plain boredom. I quit for a while after falling in to almost daily use since I didn't want to develop killer tolerance and/or get physically hooked. Since then I've resumed occasional use for the above symptoms even though I developed ways of handling all three without drugs. Just laziness and liking to take drugs I think. Bit pathetic really. No dose tapering should be needed but due to the dangers of benzo withdrawal I have kept some small doses in in case of physical withdrawal symptoms. These shouldn't be needed and I intend to get rid of 'em as soon as it's obvious that they're not. This group should just need a bit of effort to quit.

4) Booze. I have never been a particularly big drinker but I have often found myself drinking more than usual in order to relax when other recreational substances are unavailable. Twice I've had to rein myself in to avoid developing problems. In the interests of not swapping a bunch of minor, left over addictions for a worse one I and to do my bit to support all the posters above for whom alcohol is their main demon, I won't be drinking either.

5) Stimulants. I have experimented with stronger stimulants when I was much younger. I'm not really in to them now. The only purely stimulant drug that I take regularly is caffeine. I drink 4-5 cups of medium black coffee and 1 or two caffeinated sodas over the morning and first half of the afternoon. To be honest I've never found my caffeine use a problem (although I do monitor it to make sure it isn't increasing) and therefore, simply because I'm already quitting so much and I don't wanna overload my willpower over something minor, I've decided to allow myself caffeine. I am going to continue to monitor my intake over the course of the month to make sure I don't just guzzle too much coffee in "compensation" for the other drugs I'm missing but it should be ok. Also a stimulant, but given a category of it's own here as it's the most annoying pointless habit of all (and it turns sedative at high doses):

6) Tobacco. Yes I could've fitted this in to the other categories but it's best dealt with alone. I've been smoking for about a decade, since I foolishly started while sharing a student house with 3 smokers :( I really want to quit, and a few years back I managed it for 3 whole months (which is past the physical addiction stage for crying out loud!!) but slid back in due to too much stress and not enough support. Since then I've never managed to stay stopped for longer than a week. I still have 4 years left on the target I gave myself to finally quit by but it's not a deadline I intend to run close. I was gonna use Octsober as a launchpad for a serious quittage attempt but post-surgical mobility issues have forced me to rearrange my first two appointments with the Stop Smoking Service counsellor. I am lucky to have found a very good one but unfortunately I know without her help I'm very unlikely to succeed at the moment. If I tie Octsober in with the quit smoking attempt and fail at that then I know I'll be tempted to use it as an excuse to say I've failed overall and I might as well take the rest as well. Better to smoke just a bit longer than to ruin all my other plans I feel, so I've deferred quitting smoking for a month. Hopefully success in Octsober will provide me with inspiration and techniques to overcome addiction and will make stopping smoking easier when it does come. My only goal with tobacco this month will be to cut down some more, hopefully this will be possible.

So to sum up, my goal for Octsober is to abstain from all psychoactive drugs for the whole month with the only exceptions being:

i) Coffee
ii) Cigarettes
iii) Therapeutic doses only of opioid analgesics if really needed for post-op pain.

and to use the time to reflect on my drug use and, towards the end of the month, hopefully to take some positive decisions about the future.

I will be ecstatic if I can reach these goals =D Damn, if it wasn't for my operation being moved forward it woulda just been the coffee. Never mind, I think it's more important to be realistic about what you can do than aim at targets you know you're unlikely to hit, which is too discouraging. You can always use where you are as a stepping-stone to somewhwere else too whichever direction you're heading in.
 
^Good for you for making detailed plans in advance. I am also one of the select club who has that side effect from tramadol, and I take it off-label for depression. I have to leave out that side effect when I'm asked by the doc how it's working. I do not generally abuse it and 50 mg gives me profound mood-elevating effects. It gives my partner only SSRI-like negative side effects. Some of us respond to that elusive M1, others just don't... good for you for sticking to quitting.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just know in my bones that Trams are soooo addictive for me that if I take even a therapeutic dose the cravings'll go wild and I'll end up being high for a month which is NOT the idea this month. There should be weak true opioids (like the codeine family) available to me on request if my pain relief is insufficient on NSAIDs alone. If I do need to take opies though I'll keep off 'em for the same month later on as I try to quit smoking in I think.
 
The only thing that kept me from pouring a drink was how much I didn't want to come here and say I couldn't even make it one day.

Yeah, I know what you mean - don't wanna be the first to slip up either, even though this regime is entirely self-imposed and self-regulated. It would be highly pointless being less than completely honest and therefore it would be pretty embarrassing to screw up in the first coupla days - who says peer pressure always has to be negative, we're creating our own peer pressure to positive ends at the moment!

Well done to you and to everyone who made it through yesterday without their "banned" substances. I particularly commend the alcoholics among us, alcohol withdrawals are nasty. Please keep safe. You sound like you all have your heads screwed on at the moment though :) I was tempted to go back on my recent decision to ban alcohol for me during Octsober yesterday when I did my shopping. I was gonna get some beers in to take the edge of the free-floating anxiety I was feeling. Then I remembered what a slippery slope this is and how I'd come close to grief twice before (these being my reasons to keep away from booze despite the lack of other drugs). I didn't buy any beers I am pleased to add. There is no alcohol in the house now :)
 
its fall its beautiful the air smells amazing and im sick of being high! im sick of being numb! im sick of not trying any other drugs because im scared that i've been on a downer for so long that if I take xtc i might have a heart attack. . . im sick of being anti-social and isolating myself.Im sick of killing my liver.

Im sick of not feeling :/
 
Day 1 for me. Had one drink last night. None today. Nervous and excited. Will be exercising after work. Also going to try to go rent a movie or two.

The evening hours are going to be the hardest. Really glad I tapered down though. I'm going to do this, in fact I have to do this.

Again my goal is no alcohol except for possibly Halloween (but I doubt I will want to drink at that point) for at least October, most likely September. I will allow myself Marijuana till next Friday if I need it. After that only my supplements and Kava if needed.
 
I agree rollingrainbow.. life will pass by all too quickly if you dont get to take it in as it is atleast for a bit.

and thanks for the supportive words redleader.

It's insane how many temptations you are conciously resisting once you make a decision to do so, it's insane how easy it is to go and get high... espesh on a payday lol.

can't wait til it's been like a week.. 8)
 
Day 1, completed successfully. No trouble sleeping, no w/d. Not really any serious cravings, either. No slip-ups, and I was triggered by one run to the store that sells it (for food) and by the prospect of meeting up with some people at a brewery whose beer I really like. I had dinner at home instead. :)

Ethnobot - good for you for facing your trigger, too!

phactor - if I had not tapered I have no doubt I'd be going nuts right now. Quite the contrary, I feel overall better than I have in awhile. I hope I can keep the attitude and momentum I have right now all month. I really think the taper was the key to not being miserable at present.

I'm even in the mood to DRIVE... which I rarely do... and sobriety isn't at all of an issue. :)
 
Finished day 2 here in Sydney, no real dramas thus far, but I got a call and a string of msgs from a mate of mine who I hadn't seen in so long, and never really ever partied with. He sounded so excited and happy to get in touch with me, and invited me out to get loose with him, then and there, at 2am (I'd just finished off a celebrity shift at the bar), involving lots of loose women, booze and charlie.

Agonising decision to pass it up, just to miss a chance catching up with him. I really wanted to see him, but I definitely knew that if I walked into that club, I wasn't walking out sober or alone, and ABSOLUTELY belted on coke.

Not many people in real life know I'm doing Octsober, but I feel a definite sense of obligation to all you BL'ers to see this through. Tonight's test was a big one, but 100% so far.
 
hello, im new here.

much of my inspiration to finally join was because i want to participate in octsober! i know i know, a day late, but with the exception of last nights blip on the radar, i have actually been sober since september 27th. so here goes. hit the ground stumbling i guess but i'm picking myself back up.

both sides of my family have had substance abuse issues, and while i have dabbled in many, i am a lush. i never seem to want just one glass of wine. i want two too many. and by then of course its too late and im acting a fool, doing things i will have to apologize for the following day, that is if i can even remember them.

for me, for various reasons, this is the right time to stop, and i feel committed, so here goes.

good luck to everyone else too!
 
Day 1, completed successfully. No trouble sleeping, no w/d. Not really any serious cravings, either. No slip-ups, and I was triggered by one run to the store that sells it (for food) and by the prospect of meeting up with some people at a brewery whose beer I really like. I had dinner at home instead. :)

Ethnobot - good for you for facing your trigger, too!

I'm even in the mood to DRIVE... which I rarely do... and sobriety isn't at all of an issue. :)

Nice one! Stay strong :) Enjoy having a drive too - I guess we're going to find all sorts of enjoyment in the little things we'd forgotten about in the smothering overblanket of substances. It should provide some interest and pleasures to offset against the hassles :)

That was one trigger I couldn't help but face lol, gotta do the shopping sometime. Thanks to all for sharing your stories - if I hadn't read all the struggles my BL comrades have had with alcohol I might have caved in and let myself indulge :\

Finished day 2 here in Sydney, no real dramas thus far,

Not many people in real life know I'm doing Octsober, but I feel a definite sense of obligation to all you BL'ers to see this through. Tonight's test was a big one, but 100% so far.

Well done for standing firm in the face of temptation. You must want to do this for yourself as well - it's you you need to do it for, not us ;)
 
hello, im new here.

much of my inspiration to finally join was because i want to participate in octsober! i know i know, a day late, but with the exception of last nights blip on the radar, i have actually been sober since september 27th. so here goes. hit the ground stumbling i guess but i'm picking myself back up.

both sides of my family have had substance abuse issues, and while i have dabbled in many, i am a lush. i never seem to want just one glass of wine. i want two too many. and by then of course its too late and im acting a fool, doing things i will have to apologize for the following day, that is if i can even remember them.

for me, for various reasons, this is the right time to stop, and i feel committed, so here goes.

good luck to everyone else too!

Welcome to BL, monchi!

Don't beat yourself up over minor bumps, man. We're here for ya!
 
Another day is nearly done here - to everyone who's on their second day here's something to consider:

At the end of today you won't just have increased the time you've been clean and sober - you'll have doubled it :D
 
thanks for the welcome and encouragement OverDone!

i thought i would elaborate on my plan. my goal is no alcohol for the month of october. at least. i also would like to quit smoking, and since i really only enjoy smoking when i drink, this shouldn't be too hard. i am taking champix as a quit smoking aid and ive heard you shouldn't drink while on it so... two birds, one stone.

what i will do is try to hit the gym about every other day. yay for natural endorphins! i pretty much have to pass by it on my way home from work so there should be no excuses. i also plan to spend these chilly autumn evenings inside, wrapped in a blanket, reading, watching movies, and eating home cooked food. unlike some, im a much better cook when sober!

going to look into l-glutamine and 5htp too.

my reward for all of this? more money in my pocket for a trip to escape the olympics! and a better bikini body to boot ;)
 
^ Welcome aboard glad we motivated you to join us! This is a great place for support!

Wow! Hard day for me...I don't want a drink but I sure am having a hard time.

Woke up after a very sweaty, dream filled, restless night of sleep. And I totally felt like I had medicine head, you know where you are just a bit disconnected with hearing blockages and a bit of vetigo.

All day long I've had a super sense of impending....doom is too strong of a word...of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Doing my PAWS research now.

I've decided I won't drink tonight because I AM JUST NOT GOING TOO!
 
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^ That's good :) Ya, I can tell you that by Sunday night you will be feeling A WORLD BETTER. Just keep at it. Hour-by-hour. Seems like you've got the drive. I usually go with the 100 hour rule since last drink - meaning that if you can go 100 hours, the primary physical symptoms will be gone. Just stay strong and count them hours down :) <3
 
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