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double ewe said:
i think the other factor you're looking at in terms of "red states" is that there are two philosophical branches of the republican party. on one side, you have religious social conservatives, who want to enforce their morality through legislation (typically found in the Bible Belt). but on the other side are the small government/pseudo-libertarian republicans who basically believe the government should stay out of their lives as much as possible (west/mid-west).

i know texas is a pretty good mix of both, but there's certainly room for hope. likewise, as drug violence spills over, decriminalization is winning over some unlikely allies.
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I'm pretty sure New Mexico will be the next state to pass medical marijauna.
 
For clarification - the head of the DEA is responsible for scheduling and rescheduling drugs at the Federal level, not Congress.
Congress created the LAW - the CSA - and gave scheduling authority to the DEA and FDA.
Congress has nothing to do with MJ's current schedule I status.

President Obama is the head of the executive - i.e. head of the DEA.
FDA compliance with the DEA's recommendation to reschedule MJ most likely would not be strongly opposed.

He has the power, but chooses not to use it because he does not want ANY drugs legalized.
You got what you voted for...
More prohibition and stronger use of police activities to control drugs, but a focus externally and at the borders.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_latin_america_speech_in.html
His campaign speech in Miami on Latin America...
Because if we’ve learned anything in our history in the Americas, it’s that true security cannot come from force alone. Not as long as there are towns in Mexico where drug kingpins are more powerful than judges. Not as long as there are children who grow up afraid of the police. Not as long as drugs and gangs move north across our border, while guns and cash move south in return.

This nexus is a danger to every country in the region – including our own. Thousands of Central American gang members have been arrested across the United States, including here in south Florida. There are national emergencies facing Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. Mexican drug cartels are terrorizing cities and towns. President Calderon was right to say that enough is enough. We must support Mexico’s effort to crack down. But we must stand for more than force – we must support the rule of law from the bottom up. That means more investments in prevention and prosecutors; in community policing and an independent judiciary.
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And endorsement of Calderon's all out WAR on the citizenry wasn't going to lead to measurable reform.
The current "let's leave medical marijuana people alone" stance is mere pandering.
It isn't ACTUAL change, nor will it prove to be effective long term. This is "decriminalization" - non-enforcement of existing law.
New president - new policy regarding existing law, we're right back where we were BEFORE Obama, but after more of the drug using population has stopped hiding.

The "rule of law" nonsense is just that as well - nonsensical pandering.
The Rule of Law is the Constitution.
The "Rule of the Lawmakers" in violation of the Rule of Law (Governmental "control" over personal property taking all rights of ownership from the owner without due process and without just compensation is complete denial of any "rule of law" governing Government) is a just that - a violation.
It is CRIME.
And it is unacceptable in this country. At least - it was when this country was founded...
 
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we must support the rule of law from the bottom up. That means more investments in prevention and prosecutors; in community policing and an independent judiciary.
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Sounds like he's promoting blind faith in law enforcement which is a serious lol. After that he seems to be calling for a police state. I've seen many a suburbia in America turned into a police state & most the time its got a drug problem as bad if not worse then these places. What makes him think adding corrupt police to the payroll works in the least?
 
I wonder if anyone who is complaining that Obama didn't legalize weed cares about all of the work Obama is doing with health and banking reform to try and improve the economic climate of this country.

People can work to legalize medical weed in their own states. And the negative stigma surrounding drugs in this country has been long propagated and will take time to dissipate, so Obama would lose a lot of credibility and respect if he were to just come out with a pro-drug stance.

Come on people! There are way more important issues at the moment than the war on drugs.
 
^I disagree. In hard economic times, the last thing we need to be doing is flushing extremely large sums of money down the drain supporting policy that has been repeatedly demonstrated to be ineffective. Ending the war on drugs is one of the most important issues in our country right now; not only because it grossly violates the constitutional rights of the country's citizens, but also because its extremely expensive and wasteful.
 
bdoobdies said:
I wonder if anyone who is complaining that Obama didn't legalize weed cares about all of the work Obama is doing with health and banking reform to try and improve the economic climate of this country.
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Oh yes.
I care.
His doublespeak policies on every other topic are clearly as bad as his position on drugs.
His "banking reform" has been an utter failure - more "deficit spending" in order to reduce debt? More violent redistribution of wealth (taking from the many to give to the few) in the bailouts? Running the economy into a bigger hole that it's magically going to climb out of if we "just spend enough" on credit to make the credit mystically vanish?
No - he's "borrowing from the future" worse than Bush did, and it has ruined any chance of rebound for our economy. Check out HR 1207. Check out Bernacke's response to it as well.

Health reform? No - I don't want it, and no - it isn't for the public good. While medicare does need reformed, more socialization (violent redistribution of wealth) is not going to benefit a government-monopolized for-profit industry.
Nothing Obama has done for health care has been positive - and continual banter about "change" doesn't impress me.
His idea of "change" appears to be "more of the same with greater funding"


His "trying" to help the economy is historically destructive to it.
His failure to end our empirical stance in the world is still bankrupting the country - still causing needless deaths as we attempt to impose "freedom" onto sovereign states through use of militarized force.

There is not one single issue I've reviewed that I can honestly say I support.
1,000+ page bills continue to pass through Congress at record pace, and Obama signs them into law immediately - without public review as promised.
He's a charlatan with a gilded tongue.
He does one thing and convinces the people he's done the opposite.

This isn't the sign of a great leader - it's the sign of a man with ambitions and goals he holds above the will of the people.
Under the Constitution, those things are crimes.
 
I don't know, maybe we have to wait and see how it all plays out. Obama seems shady sometimes because he's very intelligent and he's trying hard to do a lot of things very quickly. Maybe his policies will work and maybe they won't. But I'm thinking if he gets elected for a second 4 years, he may do a lot of things that he wouldn't have done now regarding drug policies. He needs to gain respect from the anti-drug middle americans to win favor and a second term.

I may just be biased though because I'm hoping for change very badly, as I can't find a decent job and I have a very good college degree, and I come from a similar place as Obama.
 
bdoobdies said:
I don't know, maybe we have to wait and see how it all plays out. Obama seems shady sometimes because he's very intelligent and he's trying hard to do a lot of things very quickly. Maybe his policies will work and maybe they won't. But I'm thinking if he gets elected for a second 4 years, he may do a lot of things that he wouldn't have done now regarding drug policies. He needs to gain respect from the anti-drug middle americans to win favor and a second term.

I may just be biased though because I'm hoping for change very badly, as I can't find a decent job and I have a very good college degree, and I come from a similar place as Obama.
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Eh.
There are lines you don't cross if you want people to wait for things to play out.
Back treading on everything you promised is one of those lines.

If he wanted to effect real change, he could. But he doesn't - and he won't.
 
^I disagree. In hard economic times, the last thing we need to be doing is flushing extremely large sums of money down the drain supporting policy that has been repeatedly demonstrated to be ineffective. Ending the war on drugs is one of the most important issues in our country right now; not only because it grossly violates the constitutional rights of the country's citizens, but also because its extremely expensive and wasteful.
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His doublespeak policies on every other topic are clearly as bad as his position on drugs.
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etc. is well said.
 
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