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*SWeeT-e*

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He covers her like
a ten-ton truck
runs her over until he has
driven her into the ground
and she can't get up
and she can't fight back
and she watches him
drive away
without a second look back.
It's not rape if
she never said yes but
she never said no either
...is it?
It's not rape if
she put the drugs in her own body
and fucked herself up
so she couldn't see
or feel
or walk away
or even care
...right?
It's not rape if
she lets him do it again
she dresses like she wants it
she does it to herself
...doesn't she?
It's not rape if
it's a different guy
one who loves her
who would never hurt her
...so why does it feel the same?
She lays down on the road
like road kill
just waiting
for the next truck to come along
and run her over
again.
And again.
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Don't really know why I posted this here.
Probably shouldn't have...too much reality maybe.
And I refuse to add any comments or explanation...I just...can't.
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~kimmy.
[This message has been edited by *SWeeT-e* (edited 09 November 2000).]
 
:x <--- speechless!
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"When I read about the evils of drugs, I gave up reading."
"Write a wise saying and your name will live forever"--Anonymous
 
*Takes a deep breath* Oh gosh, I don't know what to say
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If I didn't say yes, it's not okay. I know how it feels. I know what it's like to be so fucked up that you don't care that moment, but live to wonder why you let yourself get so carried away that you couldn't say no, even if you had wanted to. I am the survivor of sexual assault. I wonder what it must have felt like, I guess they thought it was good. They had to have known it was wrong, though, even though I didn't fight back. But maybe I'm giving them too much credit. I made the mistake, but it gave no one the right to take advantage of me. Yes, I was stupid. I learn from my mistakes. I didn't say no. But I didn't say yes either. It's a crime either way. It's hard, but I learned to not feel so run over once I found a person who truly cares. I layed down in the road more than once. I have come to realize that if it happened again, I might not get up from the pavement. I surround myself with people who really care, whom I trust. And I woke up from my bad dream.
Hopefully, I'll never go back there. I know how you feel.
love,
Heather
[email protected]
 
*SWeeT-e*
My heart goes out to you. It seems like there is alot to work out for you there.
Honestly i think you answered your own questions there, so you know the answer.
No one is asking questions of you, but we are all here to support you if you need anything or anyone to talk to.
It is good to get things out in writing. Wonderful job.
((((((HUGS)))))))
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Just takes one angel to change a life
~~~~CHERUB~~~~
Aka: Mommyhen
Dreams are like angels,they keep bad at bay Love is the light scaring darkness away Make love your Goal-Frankie Goes to Hollywood
~I still belive in your eyes~-Gigi D'Agostino
 
well *SWeeT-e*,
it IS rape. anything done without consent is. your poem sent shivers up my spine, even tho' i'm a man. or maybe because i am. i can never understand how you feel, but i can still sypathise and empathise with you.
 
Well.....i dont know what to say....this is really deep, meaningful writing. Im stuck for words.
Just want to give you big big *hugz*. Im ALWAYZ here for you if ever you need anything, alwayz. Never forget that your worth more than all of lifes treasures put together
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Your strength is what will see you through, and i KNOW you have that power within. Lots of luv,
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Wow.
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I'm shocked and speechless upon reading this. This really hit me hard, because a good friend of mine who I care for deeply is starting to fall into that same position. We go out to parties, and the guys there try to get her as wasted as possible so they can lure her into bed and take advantage of her.
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It really disturbs me when assholes like that think only of themselves and their hormones and go around taking advantage of women like that. This ruins it all for the few genuine nice guys like me that are out there.
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Honestly, I think if you cut the dicks off of these guys, their brains will cease to function.
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Mysticalis, Angel of Mystery
"Come with me to a world of transcendent joy."
 
It's a two-way street.
Women have a responsibility to themselves to be careful with what situations they expose themselves to.
To me it's very fucking obvious whether guys are trying to make women pliable with drugs and booze, or whether they are just being polite and sharing for some good interaction.
I hope this is inspiring. There are consequences to getting fucked-up besides a hangover.
[This message has been edited by liquidocean (edited 22 November 2000).]
 
Thanks to everyone who replied to this...I know it's kinda controversial.
Truth is, I don't have any answers. I honestly don't even remember enough to know if it IS or ISN'T...the details are kinda blurred. The word "rape" to me is less of an act and more of a feeling...it's the faces that haunt me in my dreams at night, the dreams I can never remember...it's the waves of panic I get whenever I let someone near me again...it's the feeling of being violated without knowing why or whose fault it is.
I'm no victim...I'm sure it's my fault...somehow somewhere I had to know what I was doing. Rather, not what *I* was doing...but what I was letting be done *to* me. It's not the fact that it happened...it's the fact that I *let* it happen...that's what I can't live with.
The thing is...I *can't* say no. I mean, I'll say no, I'll say stop, but if the guy doesn't listen (this guy didn't, and he wasn't the first) then what do I do? Physically fight back and make a huge scene?? Most times, I just let it happen. It doesn't matter, it's happened before...might as well just go with it...right??
Maybe he's the one running me over...but he couldn't do it if I wasn't the one lying down in the road in the first place...right??
Again...thanks to everyone who replied...this is the first time I've ever really talked about this and I'm not even expecting a response back, it just feels good to get it out.
~kimmy.
 
its not rape...it is a poor life style decision...the only way not to be a victim is to not think like one
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We had two bags of grass, 75 pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half-full of cocaine and a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers. Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls
 
in fact if i was ever single again,I am drawing up a consent form to have the girl sign.
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We had two bags of grass, 75 pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half-full of cocaine and a whole galaxy of multicolored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers. Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls
 
Sometimes it was and sometimes it wasn't.
And you would know, right, because you were there, right? You know all the complicated details behind this simplistic post. So you can tell me whether it was or wasn't.
It was a relationship...sort of. It was my fault AND it was his fault. He used me, degraded me, and made me afraid to say no to him. But *I* stayed with him and kept coming back because he told me to. Poor life style choice. Rape. Why does it necessarily have to be one or the other?
waitin', watchin' the clock
it's four o'clock, it's got to stop
tell him, take no more, she practices her speech
as he opens the door, she rolls over
pretends to sleep as he looks her over
she lies and says she's in love with him
can't find a better man...
 
i hope sweet-e doesnt mind me bumpin this back up!
it was too damn powerful not to be kept in circulation :)
Mella
 
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