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Not LSD - Experienced - This totally sucks

Komodo Rogue

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A friend of mine told me that LSD was going to be available the next day, so my friends and I eagerly scraped together enough money for a ten-strip. Now, we have a lot of difficulty finding acid, so this was definitely exciting for all of us.

The next day I called her, and she told me to meet her at her dorm, so my friends and I eagerly rushed over. The acid was in blotter form, but not the kind of blotter that I'm used to; instead of a strip that's two hits x five hits (for a ten strip), it was just one long, skinny strip. And there was no visual or physical distinction between the hits of blotter, so we had to guess what a hit was. This seemed a little sketchy to me, but the guy was actually tripping at the time (well, at least his pupils suggested so), and he was coming back on Thursday to sell more, so I had a feeling it wasn't bunk. Also, he suggested only taking one hit, and the prospect of having a potent acid connection thrilled me. We bought the stuff and left.

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7:00 - Our small group of four takes one hit each.

8:00 - Off baseline... I bought some food from a convenience store, and talking to the clerk seemed ever-so alien, and interactions with sober people is always difficult when I'm on anything psychedelic, so I take this as a good sign. Pupil dilation is present, as are tracers and slight halos around lights.

8:30 - Hmm, not much has changed... Maybe the stuff is weaker than the dealer said, we think to ourselves, so we each take another half a hit.

9:30 - This acid sorta sucks. We each take another hit, which is the last of our ten strip. Is it bunk? Nope, we're off baseline, no question.

10:00 - Back in my dorm building, the effects finally began to intensify ever so slightly. I convince myself that the acid is finally coming on, and we go smoke a nice joint outside.

10:20 - Nope, this totally sucks, like, a LOT. If we look at things really closely, they MIGHT shift around a bit, but they usually don't... visuals are basically nonexistent, besides the brightening of lights and tracers.

10:30 - This definitely still sucks. My friends and I are giggling more than usual (although quite honestly, we were only laughing about how much money we wasted and how badly the situation sucked), and I definitely had an alertness, but mentally I was basically right on. Yay, two and a half hits, and my friends and I seriously contemplate doing homework.

Nevertheless, it IS active, because it's definitely too "intense" to be a placebo. So right now, it's either extremely weak acid, or it's something else all together, but I'm starting to feel like it's the later.

11:00 - My friend Rick says to me, "Hey Jake, remember when we thought it worked?" which is really funny to the entire group. I say to Rick, "Yeah, that was great," to which he replies, "No it wasn't." More laughter.

1:00 - I check erowid's 5-meo-AMT vault, which is my best guess of what we bought. We all read some of the reports, and agree that it seems exactly like what we have. Either that or a "cigarette enhancer," because we notice a slightly better nicotine buzz when we smoke.

2:00 - 6:00: Sleep is impossible, and I'm really fucking pissed. I mean if I were at least tripping at some point during the night it would have been cool, but instead we paid way too much money to toss and turn all night.

Morning (sometime before eleven): My head hurts and I'm tired as hell. Hooray for shitty drug dealers.

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It probably would have been a fine evening if we knew what it was, and what to expect. Then we would have just smoked weed and chilled as usual. But we were expecting LSD; after all, it's what we paid for.

We actually went back to the guy the next day, and told him that it wasn't LSD, but he's such a shithead. He said that it was definitely acid, and that he's been doing acid for years, and basically we were all just too stupid. When I explained that we took two and a half hits each with no major visuals, he said that if we wanted visuals we should have gotten mushrooms, because LSD isn't as visual. I told him that we did fucking homework during the trip, and he said concentrating on LSD is easy...

I just hate this guy, not only because we got ripped off, and not only because he's helping spread all the misinformation and myths about acid (he told us acid is actually a bunch of different ingredients, including Strychnine), but because he could kill someone. People have ALREADY mistaken 5-meo-AMT for acid and hurt themselves, so who knows, maybe this guy will be responsible for killing someone.

I have a dilemma, actually. We were considering turning this guy in to the fuzz, simply because he could hurt someone really badly with his product. I mean, we TRIED to tell him, but he wouldn't listen. Not to mention I hate him. But on the other hand, I think he actually does believe what he has is acid. Just because he's stupid and ripped us off doesn't mean for sure he deserves all that shit... so I really don't know.

Sorry that this is more of a rant than a trip report. I'm really upset :\
 
umm, i dont think he deserves to be ratted out to the pigs. you should just find a new hookup and try to inform as many people as possible about this 'acid'.
 
Turning him in to the police would be the worst thing you can do. Maybe he sold you fake acid, maybe it was really weak acid, maybe it was a totally differrent drug, who knows? There are ways to deal with someone that sells you bunk shit, but the police are never an option. That is just cowardly and weak. You don't even sound like you are certain whether or not this was weak acid or something else.

I'm not defending the apparent fact that this dealer is spreading misinformation and shitty product, but there is almost no excuse for going to the police. You were right when you confronted him. If you weren't satsfied with his answers you could have demanded your money back, or some other product that he had, although this usually does not work. He just sounds like an asshole. You should just cut your losses, and chalk it up to a lesson learned. The best way to fix the situation is to spread the word about his product so people know not to buy from him.

What were you planning to do anyway? "Um, officer, the guy over there sold me fake acid, Arrest him!" Maybe take him to small claims court??
 
Well first of all, you guys are right, I won't turn him in... as much as I dislike him, there's something just "wrong" about it. But as far as what I'd say to the officers, that would be easy: There are people selling psychedelic drugs in this building, in this room.

Also, weak acid? Hmm, sorta doubt it. Sleeping on LSD wasn't a big problem in the past, and that was when I was REALLY tripping hard, but after just like eighth hours I could still sleep, if I really tried.
 
Maybe you should tell what the design on the blotter was so people know to look out for it
 
There was a load of very similar sounding stuff where I live in the UK, plain white, very thin card thickness blotter, definitley wasn't acid but was still intense. I didn't really trip that much, kept feeling like I was coming up and up every hour or so, like the trip kept intensifying every hour for around 8-9 hours and then it just kind of went leaving me feeling rough the next day.

The only visuals I got was blurring of things and at some points finding it a bit difficult to make out what was happneing on the t.v, lots of giggling.

Where I live nobody would ever think anything other than cid could be on a piece of paper so people just either think it was a weird trip or make some other theories up.

I think someone must of realized that it was dodgey though, because the dealer supposedly had a very large supply and then after a few weeks everyone stopped buying it and he stopped selling it unless it was in bulk.
 
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Unless you are willing to say that blotter tasted very foul and bitter, that sounds very much like some weak LSD to me.

I've had a 10-strip of off-white unperforated blotter that was very weak too. I probably would have had to eat the whole strip to get a decent trip but I ended up giving it away.

So let's see... you got the giggles, some mental shifts and alterness, and couldn't sleep for quite a while after you took it?

Sounds like weak LSD.

I'm glad you seem to have already gotten the idea of turning him in out of your system.......
 
Uh man at low doses, you can't tell any tryptamine psychedelic apart. They all cause giggles, mild patterning/color shifting, tracers. It's quite possible the guy just has a really diluted vial of LSD, made his own "10 strips", and the entire 10 strip only has 200ug of LSD on it in all. You'd have to have taken a ++ dose of whatever psychedelic you took to be able to be sure if it was LSD or 5-MeO-AMT or what.
 
get used to being ripped off with acid. its one of the facts of life, if you buy acid you have a greater chance of it being bunk then real.
 
Man, that would really piss me off, but I would have expected it just because of the dodgy looking blotter. I'd probably just tell everyone I knew who took drugs to never buy off him and that he doesn't know squat about drugs, and try to just fuck his business up.
 
So let's see... you got the giggles, some mental shifts and alterness, and couldn't sleep for quite a while after you took it?

Sounds like weak LSD.

Take my word for it, though, because I really feel that it was different. I was buzzing all night long, in a way that really didn't feel like a threshold dose of anything. In my humble opinion, I REALLY don't think it was LSD.
 
I have a lot of 5-MeO-a-MT and a dose small enough to cause any effects at all will still cause gastric distress of a really blah kind, 90% of the time...
 
Having never taken a threshold dose of LSD, Komodo, how can you even begin to guess what it would feel like for you?

In my experience, LSD isn't as visual as mushrooms. I usually have out of body experiences on mushrooms similar to DMT trip reports, nothing even close on LSD. The fact that he's eaten 20 hits of his own "acid" is enough evidence for me to think it's definitely LSD. If he ate 20 doses of 5-MeO-AMT he'd be puking his guts up and having some of the most insane visuals of his life. LSD doesn't have the steep dose/response curve that 5-MeO-AMT does.

Where the hell did this meme come from that LSD is some magical drug that has nothing but wonderful magical positive effects and no down sides? For decades people have been chalking all their goddamn negative LSD experiences up to "bad acid", thinking it was laced with strychnine or PCP or nowadays 5-MeO-AMT. Folks, LSD is like any other psychedelic drug, you can have a great time with it or it can be hell, and usually it's somewhere in between. LSD is well known for causing cramps/spasms, heart racing, anxiety attacks, nausea in a few people, paranoia, dysphoria, delusional thinking, etc. Just because you experienced some of these symptoms doesn't mean it was another chemical.
 
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On the contrary I find that good LSD has MUCH crazier longer lasting better visuals then a high dose mushroom trip. With me mushrooms tend to be more emotional, more body high and everything swirls. But with acid its patterns out of patterns out of patterns.. things coming out of nowhere things forming into other things for like 14 hours. I find acid to be much more visual and to say he took 20 hits and had no visual distortion i think is sketchy.
 
He didn't say no visuals, Jewfolife, he said it was less visual than mushrooms. Obviously you can see that different psychedelics have different effects for different people - we both find mushrooms and LSD at opposite ends of the spectrum for visual activity. Just because this guy's dealer personally feels mushrooms are more visual, that doesn't say anything about the quality of his LSD.
 
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