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Misc non-opiate pain medication

all non-opiate painkillers (especially OTC ones) are pure garbage.

sickens me that tylenol is ok to buy when/wherever and will trash your liver and kill you, however opiates are fully non-toxic with basically zero effect on cognitive ability/health but unbelievably regulated

This is purely idiotic. Let us compare...


Center for Disease Control

In 2007, approximately 27,000 unintentional drug overdose deaths occurred in the United States, one death every 19 minutes. Prescription drug abuse is the fastest growing drug problem in the United States. The increase in unintentional drug overdose death rates in recent years (Figure 1) has been driven by increased use of a class of prescription drugs called opioid analgesics (1). Since 2003, more overdose deaths have involved opioid analgesics than heroin and cocaine combined (Figure 2) (1). In addition, for every unintentional overdose death related to an opioid analgesic, nine persons are admitted for substance abuse treatment (2), 35 visit emergency departments (3), 161 report drug abuse or dependence, and 461 report nonmedical uses of opioid analgesics (4). Implementing strategies that target those persons at greatest risk will require strong coordination and collaboration at the federal, state, local, and tribal levels, as well as engagement of parents, youth influencers, health-care professionals, and policy-makers
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6101a3.htm

Food and Drug Administration

Annual APAP-associated Overdoses in the US

-458 deaths
-26,256 hospitalizations
-56,680 ED visits
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/02/slides/3882S1_05_Nourjah-Ahmad-Karwoski.pdf


A few other things to consider - the percentage of the population that uses opioids recreationally is a tiny fraction of those who use APAP therapeutically yet there are exponentially higher fatalities from opioids and this doesn't even factor in the lives ruined by opioid addiction and dependence that are exponentially higher than just the lives lost. Furthermore, among the hospitalizations and ED visits that APAP cause, most of those are in people who abuse alcohol and already have liver damage from such.

To act like opioids are safer than APAP is silly and just the material people who use opioids convince themselves of to rationalize their decisions.

I'm of course not saying that APAP is safe and doesn't cause problems however to act like it's the scourge of the planet and opioids are a godsend free of problems requires willful ignorance.
 
I'm not going to defend APAP, but I will stick up for the rest of the NSAIDs! especially toradol but even the OTC's.

Non opioid pain medication sucks??? Yeah maybe for recreational use, but we are discussing pain management.

I take naproxen on occasion and sometimes ibuprofen.

As for non-OTC, non-opiate, Lidocaine patches are solid.

They used toradol illegally in the NFL I think and alot of the players would "line up" in the locker room for injections of toradol before a game so that they wouldn't feel pain, and I think this lead to them playing so hard they got like concussions and other lasting damage to their bodies.
 
Absolutely NOT. It is used only for I believe like 2 weeks because it is a very heavy duty NSAID and has been known to cause liver damage with excess use. I believe there was a recent REALSPORTS w/ Bryant Gumbel that detailed the use of toradol in the NFL.

Also, the shot seems a lot more potent than the pills but the pills are still excellent for treating acute pain flare ups
Good.

I'll only be using it for hangovers on the weekends after going out boozing, because aspirin and tylenol dont do shit for hangovers
 
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