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no old heroin addicts?!?!?

I'm 45 and been a addict for over 20 years and here in UK i know plenty of 50 - 60 year olds still doing gear. Almost all are chasers , only thing that will make you at this stage is when your health is totally f****d up,
Chasing for that long completely messes your lungs and breathing up. Even then a lot won't stop. I know someone who needs a lung transplant but the NHS( rightly) won't do it , if your you're not making an effort to stop bad habits.
Don't know any users who have maintaned an IV habit for 20+ years. No decent veins left.
 
Oxy is slowly creating a new generation of addict though...On a much smaller scale.

shit man in the states oxys already played out their course for the most part and its all H now...

It is the drugwars fault. After we got rooms to shoot up in, with health care personnel and free Heroin to people registered, fatal OD's hit bottom here in Denmark.

i tell people that shit all the time about (some) european countries giving ppl a place to use and how it saves lives but some people just dont wana hear about facts and honestly think its better to have a dead addict then a living one....
 
Oldest fella I met who I knew was an H addict was roughly in his 60s, homeless, lost both his legs because of it, as far as I'm aware he's still at the point where he'll do literally anything to shoot up. Feel sorry for the guy, he's not a bad person, just must've had a pretty tough life, and he probably didn't have harm reduction information when he needed it. Being on the streets obviously isn't helping him either. People are scared of him though, people generally are scared of homeless addicts of any age round where I live, unfortunately some of them are petty thieves, or are dishonest, so people usually ignore them all :/ (that's not to say that I do - I empathise, even with the dishonest ones, or the thieves, so I do what I can by going and getting them an OJ or a sandwich or something. I can't bear to walk past people without doing something for them)

I think with homeless addicts, it's gonna be either unsanitary shooting conditions, starvation, OD or even just the cold weather that gets them. Which is I guess why you wouldn't see many older addicts on the streets. Most of them here are 20-40. It's a really sorry situation, they're not even treated like human beings by most of the general public. The only help they get is from the hostels (which are too expensive for most to stay in anyway, it's often cheaper to just buy smack) or from the seriously under-strain drug services. Even then, those services can only do so much, because they're not government funded.. Like pill_billy says, it's easier to just leave people for dead than to fucking help them. Don't make addiction a healthcare issue, and you don't have to deal with what really should be dealt with by health professionals rather than fucking law enforcement. Sorry, I've gone kinda off topic, it's just something that really bothers and upsets me.

Oxy seems to either be the DOC of the young (I for one enjoy it a lot), or something that elderly folks get prescribed and become unknowingly dependent on. It's worrying, the trend for young people to start using it, because it is so good, and the jump from oxy to H really isn't all that far. Plus, it's a shitload cheaper. Even if people don't end up on H, there's a lot less stigma attached to prescription pain pills, so they're just more socially acceptable for people to be addicted to. Again, sorry, I've gone off topic.
 
I used to hangout/sell to an old man. He was in his 70's, been on dope since the 1950s. Watching him shoot up was downright scary, and he usually needed help. He always had the funniest stories though.

He was also wheel chair bound as from his knees down was mostly dead tissue.
 
I used to hangout/sell to an old man. He was in his 70's, been on dope since the 1950s. Watching him shoot up was downright scary, and he usually needed help. He always had the funniest stories though.

He was also wheel chair bound as from his knees down was mostly dead tissue.

dont think ive ever gotten high with anyone that old... but older ppl do usually have some pretty good stories... one of my friends dads was telling us one time how he got a kilo of panama red and shit and we were all like "ok, whatever you say" and he went in his room and pulled out this box and he still had the wrapping and it had a gold stamp on it and shit... that was onlt from the 80's though
 
shit man in the states oxys already played out their course for the most part and its all H now...



i tell people that shit all the time about (some) european countries giving ppl a place to use and how it saves lives but some people just dont wana hear about facts and honestly think its better to have a dead addict then a living one....

You`re right.I live in Europe(Hamburg,Germany).For about 20 years, we`re having rooms to shoot up or smoke our DOC.That saves so many lives,EVERY SINGLE DAY !
 
In my junkie period I spent some time hanging with/getting emergency hookups from this cool, crazy older guy, mid 60s I think, who'd been there and back with H and pretty much everything else. He took extended time off that life in the middle, supposedly even running a sober living facility for a while - but there can't be a lot of people who manage a continuous dope habit for 30+ years - before he was hit with some really terrible shit that I won't get into, but he was old and a heroin addict when I knew him. Sad to say I lost track of him a while ago. I hope he just lost his phone or something - obviously I worry because at the time he'd told me he just escaped a trip to jail (by faking a heart attack!) and was waiting to see if a charge was gonna stick, not to mention it's a lil risky to spend your days smoking crack if you have a (not fake) heart condition. But I haven't been able to find him in the obits or the county lockup lookup so who knows, maybe he actually kicked again.
 
The advantage of living long life is actually life..... If that be the case



Nothing wrong with living your life to the fullest, but use drugs, etc...in moderation.

Most people know their boundaries as they get older......so you have to adapt. Once you get older, you can't party like you did when you were in your 20's & 30's.

You can still indulge in your 60's & 70's, but you have to adapt to your health & what your body & mind are able to accept.
 
shit man in the states oxys already played out their course for the most part and its all H now...



i tell people that shit all the time about (some) european countries giving ppl a place to use and how it saves lives but some people just dont wana hear about facts and honestly think its better to have a dead addict then a living one....

Those people er NEINcompassionatemoralbutholes. Since we godt these fixing-rom af they are called here the healthcare staff have saved on the higher side of 1000 possible OD'd.

I had a slip from my of period for the first time in moths, and stupid i was i wanted to do my first shot, been a regular smoker for ~14yers. To make the sitiation even worth i had been binging on clonazepam, coke and pure wodka for three with minimal rest days(full power, 24 hour, no toilet, no sleep, no shower. Increddible what a body is willing to put up with). Et ended with me waking up informed that they had injected me with Naloxon and almost lost me.(maybe they say that to all their user they have to bring back idk) But it deff opened my eyes. Needles to say, im not doing direct injection anymore.

Stupid as i sound i feel bummed that i dident even feel the rush/overwhelming warmth people describe. I just noded the fuck out. Maybe that was for the best.

So long story short: The fix- rooms we have gotten in most of the bigger cities/towns most deffenetly save lives. And have a quite good rate for gette ing people clean from dope, but it wearys for person to person and how servereongoing the habit was. the few people which least funktioning so they kan contribute to society(as every citizens plight, if yo morals allows you to pay taxes yoused to bomb innicent kids, wommen and men.)

Jan

/edited some errors(to many, sory for my poor english). I did change Clonazolam to clonazepam as it was the latter engaging in the combo
 
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There are tons of old junkies in my city in Texas. Hell, I had a 75 year old connect who claims to have been using since his mid teens. A lot of them are homeless or live in some shady areas of the city, but some seem to make it ok (or as ok as the junky life allows). I guess it just depends on how you manage your addiction
 
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