No more opiates or bupe for me

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Hey folks:),well I've been officially rejected by a mmt treatment program(no surprise there)

After that my doc prescribed me some suboxone,was absolutley hellishly allergic to the stuff(really bad,fever hives swelling non stop puking)

So doc said try subutex,not as bad but still the puking and headaches won't go away

I stopped taking the tex 2 days ago and I'm still puking with bad headaches

I'll be so glad when my body is rid of this nasty shit so I can eat again

I got a bottle of trams so my withdrawal part of it is okay

I been thinking really hard and I believe my problems not with opiate addiction but with severe deppression

taking doses of tram with gabapentin cure me of pain and depression,opiates help the pain but not so much the depression

So I bid you farewell mother opium,can say I wanna look back either

I just need to ween down my daily dose of tram and gaba,it will just take some time and a little discomfort

but back to the sub,what an awful medicine:!:!,I've never been so damn sick in all my life

well wishes to all those looking to get off all this crap:)
 
Trams have saved me more than any opiate I can think of just due to what state I live in and the fact they're legal to order online.

I did want to mention though gabapentin has a tendency to actually aggravate depression in certain people. I'm one of those people and so is panic in paradise. I love how they obliterate anxiety (I prefer them over benzos honestly for that purpose) but for whatever reason in the world they just make me depressed. So pay attention to that a lot of people aren't aware.

Good for you though for getting off the harder opiates. What are you plans now? Are you gonna transition to tram, taper them, or do you plan on staying on them a while? I've been maintaining on tram now for about 3 weeks from a hardcore pod addiction and so far have felt pretty fucking good. Had a brief period of soma abuse but am doing a lot better lately.

Stay well, stay motivated, and most importantly stay happy. =]

edit: sorry, just noticed you want to taper the tram. Exactly what I'm doing right now and its going great. Good luck!!
 
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obviously... no private messages kind of sucks and hopefully this all gets deleted after the fact so... i see xstayfadedx post more inane bullshit, and im extremely tired of it. blog it? every fucking thing i see her post belongs in some blog lost in the backwaters of cyberspace. who is she to discourage other people from posting this type of stuff in tds.. the end.
 
Um just a thought.. how much Subutex where you taking at a time? Theres a very good chance you werent puking from allergies but from the dose..
 
I didn't post insane bullshit it is all revelant except things I post in the lounge. Now young grasshopper calm yourself. I said a blog would of been better cause its kind of a entry type post. Mods told me the same thing and its just a suggestion. There is a blog section on BL if you didn't notice. There a lot of people talk about everything going on in their life as well.

I'm not knocking the OP. I'm happy for his progress and you need to stop making assumptions.
 
Um just a thought.. how much Subutex where you taking at a time? Theres a very good chance you werent puking from allergies but from the dose..

i thought the same thing, and the hives going away after taking the naloxone out of the picture makes me think if long term maintenance is what is being sought then a second try might not be a bad idea. on the other hand competently facing abstinence might be what he ultimately desires, in which case.. whats the harm in keeping on?
 
well I'll try and touch base on all responses,

as far as dose of subutex goes it does not seem to matter,it makes me puke on 1/8 just the same as a whole pill,

it's been 2 days off the garbage and this morning I'm nausous and hedache but no puking yet so it's on it's way out of my system thank god

really the only way to be clean is to be clean,everyone will come to a point in life when they have to revert back to the way it was before all the abuse started,if one does'nt take advantage of those oppurtunities then who knows when the next one will be or if there even will be a next time.

sub and meth are worse than H,our trane of thought towards opiate addiction is twisted at best,

I guess a lot of folks don't want to endure the slightest bit of discomfort so they settle for sub or mmt only to really end up worse off than they were,yes some do make it but there's probably 20 for that one that don't,

everybody I know thats taken on the "program"is still on it and years go then more years go by,I can't stand the invisible prison anymore,fuck it all

yes I am using a little tram a day but only about 500mg which is not much compared to the 3000mg + a day I was doing.

I'm pretty fortunate that gabapentin don't depress me but it does make me eat a lot and gain weight which makes me depressed

Every form of refuge has it's price,you gotta pay the price for feelin nice as elvin bishop once said

pain for sobriety is the only way it seems,but the pain don't last forever
 
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