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Nitazines taking over UK opiates?

Nas47 said:
hey Brits..how is that loco@Zopiclon bandit?I hope he is ok....haven't seen him around soon....he was i guess an i.v. user i think and that shit is 3 times more potent than Fent....if it hits hard Europe...the streets of Kensingtone<Philly would look like a nice park
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I got stranded there once and spent the night on sheets near North Philly, which is almost as bad as west Philly. But I sleep a night on Detroit streets which are deadly, but in a more personal way, drug turf, gang stuff and personal vendettas. Kensington is in class so far down it isn't funny. Traq dope zombies and you can't really find worse places, well no where in the developed world. Americans are much more violent than most Europeans the exceptions of a few organized crime groups, who I dare not speak their names one that controls most of the drugs in Europe is not La cosa Nostra, aka the Sicilian mafia or the one that begin with C . The other one. Most haven't heard of and the Albanian gangsters, the Russians even hire them for 'wet work'.
 
haha u started talkin' like real napolitano man!Sta nguiatt!!!U know when i live in Naples if u asked somebody about Camora-well anyone would tell u-No man there is not such things....They even don't dare to pronounce that name....call it La Sistema.....as to who run drug busyness in Europe...don't fuckin' care...This is a problem of government structures,politicians and all other factors.....but i guess that are many players here....bigger and smaller
 
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Ismene2 said:
Bought some "oxycodone" the other day - ate half of one because I didn't trust it and sure enough - fucking nitazines. Strong as fuck but no fun at all. And then followed by 14 hours of what felt like trying to vomit up my ringpeice.
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I've never knowingly seen a fake oxycodone tablet in the UK. I'm only familiar with Oxycontin (or rather it's generics). Do the fakes have a thin coloured layer with a large chalk-white centre? I think in hospital I was given a generic that had no markings whatsoever and was a light pink or possibly peach colour (strip lights mess with my colour vision). Obviously I didn't have the chance to check if the colour was a coating or if the pill was a solid colour. But I have to say that I was not particularly keen. I had to ask about a dozen times to have someone confirm that it was an appropriate dose of the appropriate medication. The nurses just kept saying 'it's for pain' which did not convince. I'm not sure if they thought I was an idiot or if they didn't actually know what it was.
 
3DQSAR said:
I've never knowingly seen a fake oxycodone tablet in the UK. I'm only familiar with Oxycontin (or rather it's generics). Do the fakes have a thin coloured layer with a large chalk-white centre? I think in hospital I was given a generic that had no markings whatsoever and was a light pink or possibly peach colour (strip lights mess with my colour vision). Obviously I didn't have the chance to check if the colour was a coating or if the pill was a solid colour. But I have to say that I was not particularly keen. I had to ask about a dozen times to have someone confirm that it was an appropriate dose of the appropriate medication. The nurses just kept saying 'it's for pain' which did not convince. I'm not sure if they thought I was an idiot or if they didn't actually know what it was.
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These were seven 40mg oxycodones for £20 - fake as fuck but I knew that from the price. Just yellow all the way through.
 
Ismene2 said:
These were seven 40mg oxycodones for £20 - fake as fuck but I knew that from the price. Just yellow all the way through.
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I honestly have no idea how much a genuine OC would cost on the street. I actually need to take my prescription just to have limited mobility. But it's worrying that these fakes are turning up in the UK. That someone is now apparently making fakes in UK colours underscores the fact that people are investing in the production of fakes.

BTW as I have noted elsewhere, nitazenes are a class of drug, not a specific compound. I've noted some reports stating them to be great, some reports stating them to be awful. Different reaction to the same drug or reaction to different drugs? Who knows.

You be careful, man!
 
I think those kind of oxycontin/oxycodone type tablets go for between £10-20 each in the UK. Never bought any before because of the astronomical price.
 
Nas47 said:
haha u started talkin' like real napolitano man!Sta nguiatt!!!U know when i live in Naples if u asked somebody about Camora-well anyone would tell u-No man there is not such things....They even don't dare to pronounce that name....call it La Sistema.....as to who run drug busyness in Europe...don't fuckin' care...This is a problem of government structures,politicians and all other factors.....but i guess that are many players here....bigger and smaller
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Nas47 said:
hey Brits..how is that loco@Zopiclon bandit?I hope he is ok....haven't seen him around soon....he was i guess an i.v. user i think and that shit is 3 times more potent than Fent....if it hits hard Europe...the streets of Kensingtone<Philly would look like a nice park
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Street shit maybe, not pharmaceutical grade 100 times as powerful as morphine. 100,000 plus deathtoll in America. Actually 118,000. Hopefully cartentinil doest hit, 10,000 times as strong, pharmaceutical grade. Hard to make but has killed in the US and Canada, rare but out there along with other analog.

Carfentinil is considered a bio hazard and used to knock out elephants for surgery or relocation to reserves.

Yes I know that street fent ain't nearly as bad as pharma grade but 5,000 heroin deaths before fentanyl and no Narcan or good Samaritan laws.

Hopefully fentanyl doesn't hit the UK or death every where and not just heroin, other drugs.. too. People here keel over dead from cheap coke that has some fentanyl in it. Fake pills, like the perfect looking fake Vicodin, that killed, Prince.
Fake drugs with fentanyl. How many people in Europe and how many use illegal drugs. Darkness, death is looming and could do to Europe as bad or possibly or probably much worse.

If it does hit Europe and the Uk( yes I know The UK is part of Europe) but what about Brexit, wow are pounds devalued and so are Euros, but the the dollar could be next.

Who knows, but these 'zenes' are not as awful as pure fentanyl or it's much worse analogs which have killed in America and Canada.
But the ruble,🤣🤣🤣

Cheers
 
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3DQSAR said:
BTW as I have noted elsewhere, nitazenes are a class of drug, not a specific compound.
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That is interesting and good to know. I guess the term opioid is not really a class? Well there are probably sub classes in classes. I don’t really know though.

Those spots in Kensington about 20 to 30 years ago would’ve had top-notch heroin for sale, compared to the garbage that they’re selling these days for cheap. If I were a street addict these days I would boycott. I dream about every street addict just stopping and forcing the street scene to come back to something worthy. Hard to believe heroin was all over the place and now it’s only found in little pockets. But in a business sense, a much stronger opioid for cheap, easy to transport, and extra addicting makes sense. Making heroin from poppies seems to be too laborious.
 
Could i just ask out of general curiosity, what is the difference in feeling with say, quality un-cut H and Fentanyl?

I wonder as i've watched documentaries where the user is seeking 'fetty' not H.
I thought H was euphoric and fentanyl just KO style bland..as it were.

Thanks.
 
50shadesofDave said:
Could i just ask out of general curiosity, what is the difference in feeling with say, quality un-cut H and Fentanyl?

I wonder as i've watched documentaries where the user is seeking 'fetty' not H.
I thought H was euphoric and fentanyl just KO style bland..as it were.

Thanks.
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I've known people who love fent. A friend died smoking the patches. Some people like to be obliterated for a couple of hours, some prefer a more functional high. Personal taste really. I've never knowingly done fent, but I have a feeling I'd like it. Not more than smack, but it's still an opioid.
 
I noticed the difference in H and nitazines in the UK instantly - I've taken H maybe once or twice a year for the last 15 years or so - usually order a gram and spend a week snorting it. The high is fucking pathetic. I've had better highs from taking two 8mg/500mg co-codamols than I ever got from snorting UK heroin. You can barely feel it. Fucking rubbish.

The first time I took what I believe to be nitazines I instantly thought "Fuck me, this is a lot strronger". I just mix a bit with D9 and it goes really well.
 

Several carfentanil labs have been discovered in Canada.

The reason is someone published a synthesis that makes it's production no more complex than that of fentanyl so it makes perverse sense to go for the stronger option. It also avoids a couple of watched precursors.

Not much is known about the action of carfentanil in man but it's widely suggested to be more lipophilic and have a larger volume of distribution then fentanyl which is why the few reports I've read state it's DOA is longer than fentanyl.

It's also achiral. People love to point to the potency of analogues like OHMEfentanyl but that has eight enantiomers and while all appear to be active, it's only one of the eight that has the potency often ascribed to the compound.


@axe battler - I admit to having dropped a pill on the floor only to find it months later and the funny thing is that oxycodone seems more active orally than via a parenteral ROAs based on an experiment. That may be because although OC is active in it's own right, first-pass metabolism will convert a fraction of it to the much more potent oxymorphone. But overall, it does appear to have addictive potential out of all proportion to it's analgesic activity. I just take as prescribed. I have the strong impression that if abused, it's a faster route to addiction than even H. Only Palfium struck me as a worse 'trap'.
 
3DQSAR said:

Several carfentanil labs have been discovered in Canada.

The reason is someone published a synthesis that makes it's production no more complex than that of fentanyl so it makes perverse sense to go for the stronger option. It also avoids a couple of watched precursors.

Not much is known about the action of carfentanil in man but it's widely suggested to be more lipophilic and have a larger volume of distribution then fentanyl which is why the few reports I've read state it's DOA is longer than fentanyl.

It's also achiral. People love to point to the potency of analogues like OHMEfentanyl but that has eight enantiomers and while all appear to be active, it's only one of the eight that has the potency often ascribed to the compound.


@axe battler - I admit to having dropped a pill on the floor only to find it months later and the funny thing is that oxycodone seems more active orally than via a parenteral ROAs based on an experiment. That may be because although OC is active in it's own right, first-pass metabolism will convert a fraction of it to the much more potent oxymorphone. But overall, it does appear to have addictive potential out of all proportion to it's analgesic activity. I just take as prescribed. I have the strong impression that if abused, it's a faster route to addiction than even H. Only Palfium struck me as a worse 'trap'.
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good, get it TF OFF THE STREETS!!!!
 
Sadly you cannot uninvent something. The appropriate patents and papers were flagged in digital domains long ago.

I think what people aught to consider is that carfentanil is apparently, being mixed with fentanyl. It's been detected in fluid samples in over 1000 fatal ODs in the USA.

It's been an issue in Canada since 2017, it's not new. What has changed is that now Canadian carfentanil is now reaching the USA.

Grisham's law in action.
 
AFAIK an Oxy 80 should pretty much always be £20+ these days, if you see them for any cheaper they're most likely fakes

I've never seen fake Oxy IRL but UK darknet vendors have loads of listings for "Oxy 30s" that are £3 each
 
Ismene2 said:
Bought some "oxycodone" the other day - ate half of one because I didn't trust it and sure enough - fucking nitazines. Strong as fuck but no fun at all. And then followed by 14 hours of what felt like trying to vomit up my ringpeice.
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Were these oxy PILLS?
Or "Oxy" pills?
Like, did they look exactly like one's you'd get from a pharmacy or were they fake ones "Pressed" illegitimately?

Just my opinion, but people who put shit in drugs that isn't what people think they're getting is SO fucked up.
 
3DQSAR said:
Sadly you cannot uninvent something. The appropriate patents and papers were flagged in digital domains long ago.

I think what people aught to consider is that carfentanil is apparently, being mixed with fentanyl. It's been detected in fluid samples in over 1000 fatal ODs in the USA.

It's been an issue in Canada since 2017, it's not new. What has changed is that now Canadian carfentanil is now reaching the USA.

Grisham's law in action.
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How can people - even with an enormous tolerance - even TAKE carfentanyl? Surely you'd die just from the tiny amount you;d inhale by opening the bag?
 
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