Nigella Sativa aka Black Seed Oil for Opiate / Kratom Withdrawal

[Slid]

I recently was assisting a friend get off of kratom and was amazed at the results she experienced in the form of relief from WD symptoms. Specifically she had almost total relief of burny, watery, sensitive eyes. Also experienced great relief of the general icky physical feelings. It should be noted that this was a very light WD from a habit that lasted half a month at the very most. Still, she was feeling crappy enough for the WD symptoms to be adversarial and the oil got her past every hump she encountered.

I do want to note some info I came across when searching for threads on nigella sativa. There was one comment about the nigella sativa/black seed oil having paralytic properties at high doses. The poster seemed concerned with people taking tons of the oil and paralyzing themselves or something of that sort. Just thought it should be mentioned because I know how I would often get with substances of potential relief when I went through massive opiate WDs years ago (ex- "Fuck you! Get away from me! I'm taking the whole bottle!"). So please refrain from downing bottles of black seed oil out of desperation. I think the guy was mainly concerned about this because the thread was about potentiation. This would suggest he was more concerned about the paralytic properties at high doses combined with the sedating properties of the opiates being used along with the oil.

My friend was getting relief from a teaspoon or two. Taken with food because the oil is a little spicy (kinda like mustard not like jalapeno).

 

[footscrazy]

I recently tried nigella sativa/kalonji for opiate wd. I was feeling pretty bad, and I didn't find it helped a whole lot. Maybe marginally, but it's hard to say. I was using the actual seeds and eating a teaspoon or two. The seeds are meant to be about a third oil, so the dose of oil should be 3 times lower than what you'd take of whole seeds. I didn't find a whole lot on what dosages are effective or recommended, though I do remember seeing a source which had a maximum daily dose - which I can't remember and have forgotten. In rats the maximum non-fatal dose looks like 500 mg/kg but the max recommended dose I remember seeing was much lower than that.

 

[captainkingsnake]

idk why anyone would bother freaking out about black seed saying it can cause paralyisis...knowingly or not they probably serve some "methadone is the only way" pharmaceutical god.

Black seed is the shizz, is said to help with paralysis not cause it. It's probably one of the closest things to an actual panacea there is.

and yes, does help with mild withdrawals. I like to combine it with high dose vitamin C therapy as they seem to work better together than individually.

 

[captainkingsnake]

ps. if you are using the seeds make sure to chew them up real good...pretty much as much as possible. Otherwise they just pass right through.

 

[Neuroprotection]

I have never used opioids before, but when I heard that certain components of the oil such as thymoquinone could prevent, or even reverse opioid tolerance I decided to give the oil a try. I took about 3 full tablespoons of oil and held it in my mouth for around 10 minutes, hoping to absorbe some active compounds sublingually. After I swallowed the oil, I took another mouth full straight after, and held it their for several minutes, then gulpt it with the help of some hot tea and an extra tablespoon of oil. I felt great that day. Not sure why, iv never used opioids before