NEWS: Sydney Star Observer: When do we give up G?

[BigTrancer]

Think about it please...

"One person squirted 1ml onto his tongue yesterday and instantly and violently vomited - ie without swallowing it.

Another was diagnosed this morning with reflux oesophagitis and suspects it is due to being "burnt" by this "G", which he had on Saturday night. (Or it could just be coincidence.)"

"In the case of this burny batch, however, the users in question say some diluting is essential to reduce the burn."

"I saw a number of different clear plastic containers with this stuff in yesterday and all were turning white/opaque in patches where it was reacting with the plastic."

Is the high really worth it?​

BigTrancer.

 

[phase_dancer]

I'm not surprised if GBL is being brought in to Australia, despite its regulation.

Recently, while searching for a completely unrelated compound I ended up on a chem manufacturer/supplier site which specialised in an industry widely relevant to Australia. This company produced 2 very different groups of chemicals both directly applying to the industry. I almost missed it, but their companion product to both chemical groups was a trade named product claimed to be a revolutionary and superior chemical for both purposes.

Intrigued, I looked a bit closer to see the chemical was in fact GBL.

 

[Timmmmmy]

the reason most people swallow concentrate is that you only have to swallow that vile tasting stuff once - diluting increases volume which means more swallows!

While this may be true, by not diluting it the risks are greatly increased. In real terms this means more people G-ing out, which only gives the stuff a worse name. The long and the short of it is its liquid plastic and its going to taste horrid no matter how you take it, so why not reduce the risks?

Besides, true G-whores learn to love the "vile" taste!

EDIT: and in answer to BT's question, NO the high is not worth it!

 

[D&AWg]

Is the high worth it? That definitely is the question.

However, there's no one answer. Every user comes up with a very personal and subjective answer to that, based on an individual judgment of the pleasure vs the known risks.

Those who continue to use this batch or any other variety of G obviously believe that it is worth it.

In the case of this batch, most of the people I know are raving about how good it is and are not currently concerned about any risks beyond the usual. (They measure their doses very carefully BTW, unlike many others.)

I have raised the topic because there are some strange factors here that make me suspect that there may well be some unusual risks. However, I may just possibly be overreacting or at least overinterpreting some of the facts that are known so far - it may be that this batch is no more or less dangerous than any other. Scare tactics do not work, nor should they. At the moment we're just speculating. Just because a specific substance reacts with, say, plastic, it doesn't automatically follow that it will react with metal, or indeed human tissue. Then again, it might.

I'm hoping that if I can come up with accurate and scientific information I can use this to persuade people to reassess their use - or at least to modify the way they use it in order to minimise any risks. However, without hard information and a rational explanation I can't expect to achieve this - at the moment we don't have this information. I can't expect a careful user who has had only good experiences with a batch and no harms to change their usage pattern based on my speculation.

But if we were to get consistent feedback here about certain types of bad reactions or even consistently good experiences, we might be able to draw some solid conclusions. That's when Bluelight really comes into its own and does a powerful harm minimisation job.