NEWS: News.com.au - 24/01/10 'Cheap, deadly ecstasy pills hit streets'

[OND43X]

Both calcium carbonate and calcium sulphate (chalk) are used extensively in the pharmaceutical industry as excipients (binders), so there's little argument as to the potential danger of these if found in Ecstasy tablets i.e. the danger is negligible in relation to normal dosages. Washing powder - if the claim is true - could mean anything. However, anything alkali would react with the MDMA salt if moisture was present, so I'd doubt very much these are commonly found excipients.

That principle reason pills have become more dangerous is that MDMA has been effectively limited in supply due to LE successes. Authorities can state this or that to back their cause, or blame suppliers, consumers etc, but as has been said many times, supply reduction needs to mirror demand reduction for LE practices to lessen the harm of drugs to the individual and community at large.

i may or may not of seen chalk (common childrens chalk) used as binders and as colour dyes in makeing "xtc" pills. pills will not crumble as long as the main active ingredients have been properly dried out in containers with no moisture

 

[psytaco]

yes this article is ill informed and fear mongering. BUT it does come at a crucial time. I may be going out on a limb here, but most pills sold as ecstasy at the moment do not contain MDMA. You only have to look at pillreports to see that nearly all pills are adulterated.

I don't really bother with pills much now. Mainly because they are adulterated and even if they do contain MDxx its in weak dose and just produces a monged out high. More likely you will get pipes, or something that makes you feel a bit amped then shit.

I made the mistake of buying two white doves off a random at a very large bush doof last weekend. At first all I felt was a weak dose of MDxx. However after 1 and a half hours I was tripping hard. It seems that I had taken some sort of mystery psychedelic. Thank god I was at bush doof and not a nightclub, as I ended up having a good time tripping, but it could of easily turned into a nasty experience.

 

[Bent Mk2]

I've actually noticed a few people raise their prices (slightly) recently on the basis they actually had decent pills. Which reminds me of the change from shitty cheap speed to $$$$$$ ice, meth, whatever it's called, many years ago.

There's a lot of cheap, cheap pills out there, and they're crap. Like most things in life, I'm happy to pay for quality, and I think proper dealers (as opposed to young kids trying to make a quick buck) are realising that.

 

[Crankinit]

I'd happily pay twice the current going rate if I knew each pill contained a decent 100mg of MDMA. Without even a second thought.

 

[Sustanon]

The law makers and law enforcers dont really give a fuck about real harm reduction practices.

Exactly, all they are trying to do is reach there target statistics. Which LE person would give a fuk about any of us? Everything is just about money thesedays.

 

[WitchfinderGeneral]

I like how these articles totally miss the point. MDMA isn't the problem (well, from a safety stand point, any way), it's what other chemicals the pills are mixed with. Instead of launching an MDMA scare campaign, it'd be far more practical to warn people of the dangerous chemicals which can be in pills, and to encourage people to test for dangerous chemicals to lessen the risk.

 

[lil angel15]

I dont quite understand this quote PD.

Demand generally stays high for these substances. How can they reduce the demand at the same time as reducing supply? Or should they allow a suitable amount of supply to mirror demand?

The law makers and law enforcers dont really give a fuck about real harm reduction practices.

I think what Phase is trying to get at is if the correct harm minimisation model is being pursued than an equal emphasis needs to be placed on the three arms of the model to effectively lessen the harms associated with drug use..

• Supply reduction
• Demand reduction
• Harm reduction