New Rave Drugs Have Experts Concerned

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A new class of drugs is getting increased attention from police and partyers alike.

Synthetic hallucinogens, which are growing in popularity at nightclubs and rave parties, are so new that many don't even have street names yet.

Usually manufactured in small home-based laboratories, these drugs have law enforcement and health officials concerned because their long-term health effects are virtually unknown.

'Colors Were Really Brilliant and Crisp'

The drugs reportedly have effects similar to the popular rave drug ecstasy: feelings of euphoria, emotional empathy and colorful hallucinations. The typical user is a young, white, college-educated and Web-savvy person who finds that these drugs complement the dance music heard at nightclubs and raves.

"It's kind of mildly hallucinogenic and visual," said Gregory, a graphic designer from California who tried one of these drugs for the first time last year. "Colors were really brilliant and crisp, and I became really relaxed."

Most synthetic hallucinogens are still referred to by a confusing alphabet soup of names based on their chemical compounds.

2C-B is considered one of the most popular of these drugs. 2C-T-7 is often compared to LSD for its colorful hallucinations. AMT was originally developed in the 1960s for antidepressant research, but was abandoned shortly thereafter. 5-MEO-DiPT, also referred to as "Foxy," is sometimes used as a substitute for ecstasy.

Buyer Beware

"Because these drugs are unstudied in the medical literature, we don't know all of the side effects or all of the dangers involved in the use of these drugs," said Paula Berezansky, intelligence analyst for the National Drug Intelligence Center, a branch of the Department of Justice's Drug Enforcement Administration.

The illicit way in which synthetic hallucinogens are sold presents another problem. "A user may not know what they're buying," Berezansky added. "Something sold as one drug may be another."

Most synthetic hallucinogens fall into two general categories, phenethylamines and tryptamines. Both chemical compounds occur in nature and are found in common plants and foods — small amounts of phenethylamine are even found in chocolate.

Nationwide, a handful of overdoses and hospital admissions have been attributed to synthetic hallucinogens. But because many of these drugs are mixed with other drugs or their actual chemical nature is unknown even to the users, accurate records are difficult to gather.

Health Effects Are Unknown




"We've actually had patients come in with a condition called monoamine oxidase toxicity from taking combinations of drugs that include tryptamines," said Dr. Edward Boyer, director of toxicology at the University of Massachusetts Medical Center in Worcester.

"What concerns me … is that kids are turning to psychoactive drugs at a younger age," Boyer added. "We simply don't know what these tryptamines do to a developing neurological system. Tryptamines are powerful hallucinogens."

"People can't even decide what the long-term effects of a common drug like ecstasy are, let alone something like 2C-B," said Boyer.

Law enforcement officials echo the concerns of the medical community.

"It's a young group of people who are using this and half the time they don't know what they're using — they're going on what a friend says," said Lt. Patrick J. Garey, a member of the Community Narcotics Enforcement Team of the New York State Police.

"There's so much poly-drug mixing of drugs that occurs, you could be taking ecstasy mixed with a bunch of other drugs," he said.

Psychonauts Surfing the Web

"One of the reasons we've seen these drugs increase in use over the last few years is the use of the Internet," said Berezansky. "The abusers can find out a lot about these drugs very easily."

She refers to users by the name law enforcement officials have coined for those who surf the Web for drug information: "psychonauts."

But drug users aren't the only ones surfing the Internet for drug information.

When Garey was called to participate in a recent seizure of a 2C-B lab at a home in Tioga County in upstate New York, he told ABCNews.com: "It kind of came out of the blue. We'd never seen it before. I'd never even heard of it. I had to go on the Internet to find out what it was."

The DEA is also using the Internet, but to snare the dealers who profit from the sale of synthetic hallucinogens. In July, the DEA announced the conclusion of "Operation Web Tryp," named for the tryptamines that were part of the operation's focus.

Operation Web Tryp targeted five Web sites and resulted in the arrest of 10 individuals from across the United States.

But many of these drugs are so new their legal status is a matter of some confusion. 5-MEO-DiPT, for example, was not even permanently placed on the Federal Register as a Schedule I controlled substance until September of this year.

Rod, a computer hardware engineer in the San Francisco Bay area who preferred to use an assumed name, has experimented with the synthetic hallucinogen 2C-B.

"Initially, a friend of mine at a rave told me about it when he was tripping pretty hard on it," Rod said. "Then I followed up on it by reading this book by a guy named Shulgin."

Alexander Shulgin is widely credited with fostering the popularity of synthetic hallucinogens through his 1990 book, "Pihkal: A Chemical Love Story." (The name "Pihkal" is an acronym for Phenethylamines I Have Known and Loved.)

Rod describes his experience as interesting but not especially exciting. "It was just mildly hallucinogenic — it made everything sharper and more vivid, and there was a slight hallucinogenic effect," he said. "It was all visual for me."

But when asked if he would try the drug again, Rod said, "No, probably not."

Like some other users, Rod is concerned about anecdotal information from a number of sources that overuse of these drugs has led to the development of symptoms similar to Parkinson's disease.

None of this information, however, has been tested through medical research.

"I think that was the only time I've taken a drug that hasn't been taken for a long period of time by a large number of people," Rod said. "Combined with the fact that you don't know what you're buying when you buy it, it's just like, forget it. I'm sort of a conservative drug taker."

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New Rave Drugs Have Experts Concerned

Use of Synthetic Hallucinogens Is on the Rise,
But Health Effects Are Unknown

By MARC LALLANILLA
Dec. 30, 2004 —

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Usually manufactured in small home-based laboratories

gotta love how the mass media assumes everyone out there got a B.S. in Chemical Engineering in their spare time

She refers to users by the name law enforcement officials have coined for those who surf the Web for drug information: "psychonauts."

...said to the tune of Black Sabbath's 'Supernaut'



The DEA is also using the Internet, but to snare the dealers who profit from the sale of synthetic hallucinogens. In July, the DEA announced the conclusion of "Operation Web Tryp," named for the tryptamines that were part of the operation's focus.

...and on that note, im going to autoban myself

hell i bet half of the hot chicks in the Gallery are really 47 year old DEA agents.


I'm sort of a conservative drug taker

lol smackhead...
 
Crazeee said:
Usually manufactured in small home-based laboratories


I thought the majority of these drugs were imported from large operations in India or China.

"I think that was the only time I've taken a drug that hasn't been taken for a long period of time by a large number of people," Rod said.

I dunno…2C-B was pretty popular in the European rave scene in the early 90's, and has been used since the 70's.
 
the "small home-based laboratories" part is neat

honestly, if you manufacture 2c-t-7 in your basement, stop now, please, really.

you could make loads more money manufacturing mdma in your basement, if your willing to take the legal risk, at least make something more financially appealing to drug dealers. gee whiz.

rocket surgery.
 
Did anyone else spot;

"It's a young group of people who are using this and half the time they don't know what they're using — they're going on what a friend says," said Lt. Patrick J. Garey, a member of the Community Narcotics Enforcement Team of the New York State Police.

and;

"One of the reasons we've seen these drugs increase in use over the last few years is the use of the Internet," said Berezansky. "The abusers can find out a lot about these drugs very easily."
 
good ol alphabet chemicals!!!!!! too bad almost all of those have been scheduled already. just recently actually. but nice pointless article. :)
 
"She refers to users by the name law enforcement officials have coined for those who surf the Web for drug information: "psychonauts." "

i thought psychonaut meant someone who explores their psyche via psychedelic drugs

i like my meaning better!

"Did anyone else spot;
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"It's a young group of people who are using this and half the time they don't know what they're using — they're going on what a friend says," said Lt. Patrick J. Garey, a member of the Community Narcotics Enforcement Team of the New York State Police.
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and;

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"One of the reasons we've seen these drugs increase in use over the last few years is the use of the Internet," said Berezansky. "The abusers can find out a lot about these drugs very easily."
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it stilll makes sense, ppl learn about the drug ont he internet, they try them, then their friends take it too
 
Crazeee said:
She refers to users by the name law enforcement officials have coined for those who surf the Web for drug information: "psychonauts."

AND

Crazeee said:
When Garey was called to participate in a recent seizure of a 2C-B lab at a home in Tioga County in upstate New York, he told ABCNews.com: "It kind of came out of the blue. We'd never seen it before. I'd never even heard of it. I had to go on the Internet to find out what it was."

SO THAT MEANS :

Lt. Patrick J. Garey = PSYCHONAUT

=D :) :D =D :) :D
 
Here is a rare photograph taken inside one of these basement labs:



"See the demon... stoking the fire... so energetically"




"Here's a demon... giving a man a drink... of horrid, brimstone liquid."




8)

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I'm not making light of the fact that some compounds are dangerous. I'm just tired of seeing social issues being portrayed in the voice of:

AND YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, ON ACTION NEWS!


If the drug hasn't been studied, why not? What is NIDA's excuse for not funding a full study into 2-CB, or 2-CT-7?

There's already a TON of US and Russian research on AMT. Why hasn't the NIDA sought to have that released by Upjohn?

They keep pay some hack like George "monkey slayer" Ricaurte so as to keep the monkey death count high (in their political battle of good against evil), yet they don't spend shit on something like this.

For an agency who's mission is to protect and inform the public, NIDA sure is full of a lot of slackers (and slackers with agendas on top of it). :|
 
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Bad Attempt at trying to sound factual.

Sure drugs can do things with yer brain permanently if u choose to use them. For the one who swallows random pills, all i can say is less space for more people.

And for all the "DEA" scientists whatever. Fuck y'all fer statin the obvious
 
[She refers to users by the name law enforcement officials have coined for those who surf the Web for drug information: "psychonauts." ]


what a retarded b*tch; that's seriously one of the most stupid things I've ever heard from an "authority figure".

"psychonaut" was a term used even before the DEA decided to call synthetics "designer drugs" back in 1985, and internet wasn't widely available back then.

a psychonaut is someone well versed in ego annhiliation and psyche transcendentalism by experience with hard psychedelics, not an internet geek.
 
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It kind of scares me that everyone is bagging on this article so much. I understand that everyone here, including me has probably experimented with most of the drugs named here, if not all of them but, I can honestly say that I regret it. I hope that there are more laws prohibiting or at least controlling these sort of drugs.

The reason I come to such a desicion is because of personal experience. In the article it had stated that due to damage caused by these drugs often users find themselves struggling with disorders simuliar to parkinsons. I myself have taken foxy and 5meo as well as 2Cb, as well as a fist full of other lame raver drugs. Now, after only using for a short period (6mos or so) I have begun to feel definite effects from it. I have been clean, well except for opiates, which have been prescribed to me for my chronic (legitimate) pain I suffer through daily. I have been diagnosed with fibromialgia, and am also now taking a series of parkinsons medications so I can even try to have a somewhat normal life. I am 24, and I feel like I am 50. I honestly blame my intense drug expirementation for the deterioration of my health.

I just hope that people in this forum can look at both sides of the spectrum. Would you want your children expirementing with drugs that no one knows shit about? I don't think you would, but I could be wrong. There is some truth to this article, no matter how much you try and butcher it.

Just my 2 cents.
 
@~full*bloom~

With regards to your drug usage; did you even bother to research the drugs you took??? And if so, did you research thoroughly? Did you suffer from any medical/mind-conditions or take any prescription medications? Did you abuse the drugs you took? ( ie. not letting your body get back to normal after a 'night out' )

<soap box>
This is the problem with a lot of people these days: they take no responsibility for their actions 8) ( you're not included, ~full*bloom~, till you possibly reply ) Then they have a whinge about 'this drug screwed me up' or 'they should ban this or that' when it is ultimately their fault. Nobody made them take <drug name here> except themselves. And if they took it due to peer-group pressure, more fool them.
</soap box>

My 2 cents.
 
It is not that I am not taking responsibility for my drug use and the reprocusions of it. I know that I am the one who put the pipe to my mouth or the pill on my tongue. However, I did know prior to most of my drug experimentation, some information on them. I knew a lot about LSD, ecstacy, marijuana, mushrooms, blue lilly, and ketamine. However, to claim that peer influences aren't a factor in experimentation without information is ignorant. In circles of partiers there is a closeness and trust that you feel is more genuine than anyone you have met in your life. Maybe that is just my experience but to put yourself in my shoes, you would have probably done the same thing.

I didn't ever hear of some of the designer drugs that were offered to me at parties or by my close friends. I had become very close to a seemingly intelligent dealer who had a lot of intimate house parties I attended. He had given me 'foxy' and the other drugs stated in my previous post, and call me nieve but I trusted him. As many other experimenting kids do. If the drugs I was offered had been mentioned on dance safe flyers or even at school I would have probably been less reckless with them. So in part, I do have a bit of blame aimed to the lack of awareness towards these drugs.
 
psychonaut

I love that word psychonaut. First seen it on a Hawkwind album cover - maybe Space Ritual? or Doremifasolatido? "Calling all Psychonauts!" Circa 1971 in any case - definitely predates internet!!!! %)
 
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