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New eztester release date?

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Acid_Reign

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I've heard of the new tester that distinguishes between mdma, mdea and mda.
Is this ready yet?
How long until we can use it?
 
The test itself is finished.
We are now (still) playing around with bottles, droppers and manuals.
When we released the LARGE EZ Test, a while later we found out that the droppers were no good and the tests started leaking and arrived f*cked. We want to avoid that this time.
What was scientifically researched had to be tested on real material as well. That meant we had to get _certified_ samples of several substances to test the new test, mdma, mdea, mda, dxm and a few other substances. Well, we got the samples (from a Dutch harmreduction organisation) and it behaved as we expected.
I'll explain, if we think mda behaves a certain way with the new test, we need a pure mda sample to make sure it tests as we expect. Same goes for mdma and mdea.
Well yeah, we can buy pills everywhere but how can we be absolute sure it _only_ contains mdma or mdea or mda. For that reason we had to beg for pure samples.
Anyway, we are working hard to get it together and release it quite soon.
Hopefully within 2-3 weeks.
aj
 
2-3 weeks for the new tester? Okay, I can wait that long, but I hope this isn't just a big tease!
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I was goin to order a new one soon. I'll wait as well. This sounds really cool. aj, will the new test include a real dropper? You know the thingy with the rubber bulb at the top. I think that that will save me from wasting so much of the reagent. Mine is almost empty and I've tested no where near 200 pills. More like 50.
 
OK, I am not sure whether I am already "allowed" to reveal some details.
The new test kit is an improvement compared to the original test.
I tested it myself a few days ago and this is what it does better;
It will clearly distinguish between DXM and Ecstasy like substances. With the current test, there could still be doubt about the sample, the DXM reaction is/was quite similar to an Ecstasy like substance and could confuse inexperienced testers.
The other thing is that the new test clearly distinguishes between mdma/mdea and mda.
If your pill contains mda (only) we will now be able to find out.
However, there is still no way to distinguish between (pure) mdma and mdea.
We have yet been unable to figure out a reagent that distinguishes between mdma and mdea.
What do you people think about all this ?
Is this an improvement ?
Did you maybe expect more ? (Yes, I wish it could distinguish between ea and ma but it is simply not the case)
Any suggestions ?
regards
aj
 
aj,
Personally, I'm pleased with the results the current test kit can provide. As long as it distinguishes between most other things and MDxx, then that is fine.
I'm pretty sure that I've had MDMA and MDA (and wouldn't know if I've had MDEA), and enjoyed both.
My goal is to savour the moment for three or four hours and then relax.
 
With regards to wanting a bulb dropper, unfortunately anyone who makes the Marquis reagent tester with one of those is doomed!
The reagent is highly corrosive. If you had one of those droppers with the rubber bulbs screwed on as a lid, when it was placed on it's side, the reagent would go into the bulb and completely destroy it. You'd get black bits in your reagent and it would be ruined. If you wanted one with an optional dropper, you're still going to be messy and have to rinse and COMPLETELY dry it each time. A bit of a hassle I reckon.
The Chemical Generation Marquis reagent tester 'E: a quick and simple test' has a superior dripper, so you can actually get one drop out of it. Perhaps you would like to try it and see if it addresses your problem. You should get 150 to 180 tests out of ours.
I have always been doubtful as to whether there was a market to distinguish between MDA and MDMA, as I had previously eluded to. When you look at www.ecstacy.org, and check the analytical pill tests, you see only a few percentage turning up as MDEA, and almost none as MDA. Most manufacturers of MDA would quite happily (readily) and very easily convert their MDA to MDMA to capture that market. Why stop at MDA?
We feel there is a market in determining other psychoactives and possible adulterated pills, which is why we developed E2. We have launched this product locally already and are getting some great feedback.
B.
Chemical Generation
 
AJ,
by the details you gave, I would say that the new tester sounds like a great improvement. For me, determining whether a pill is MDA or MDMA is more imporant that MDEA, mainly because there seems to be more MDA going around these days.
And having a clearer reaction to DXM is also another great improvement that I look forward to.
One question, will there be a definite reaction for PMA?
2nd question, will there be an improvement with the dropper? I understand that the whole dropper situation is difficult because of the corrosiveness of the liquid, but it is frustrating when you end up using 3 or 4 drops each time you test a pill.
I think that if the new tester lives up to the promises, then it will probably become the clear choice (in my opinion) over dancesafe's kit and the others. Hopefully they will have to improve their kit as well.
 
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"I hope this isn't just a big tease"
It will come, if not in 3 weeks, it will be in 4-5 but it will come.
"With regards to wanting a bulb dropper"
Yes, nightmare it is.
The ones that drop well can't stand the reagent and the ones that can stand the reagent don't drop so well. Anyway, we are really interested in CG's "superior dropper" ;-)
"Why stop at MDA?"
It is not a stop, it is a step ;-)
Hopefully we'll be able to develop it further into a better testing kit.
"new EZ Tester react to PMA"
The current EZ Test does that already.
We do not have a PMA sample to do further testing on the new EZ Test.
"a clearer reaction to DXM "
Yes, I think this is good as (I understand) there is quite some DXM going round.
Anyway, I wish I could give you already more details but I'll have to wait a bit.
aj
 
I'm excited! But I'm not so sure that I'll be able to wait 4-5 weeks. Maybe I'll get the old one again and the new one later. I'll see how it goes.
 
aj..
What do I do with my current stock of "old" EZ-Tests, when the new one comes out?
am I to sell them, or return them
TheGamer
 
luv rolling:
to loosely quote aj:
when he says that it does react, it just doesn't change colour, he's pointing out the fact that you don't (or SHOULDN'T) want PMA, and so no colour change means you certainly shouldn't take it, because its not ecstasy.
aj: You can buy samples of pure substance dissolved in methanol from a chemical supply company. you get >5 mg for about $20 US... not the most cost effective, but this is how we set up new drug standards for the chromatography kits
Most people cannot buy these, but since you're in the chemistry business - no problem
Also as a disclaimer to everyone reading this, please do not go any buy these samples to ingest. Methanol can make you go blind, and could cause your death..
TheGamer
[This message has been edited by TheGamer (edited 04 October 2000).]
 
on the PMA no reaction issue i was going topoint that same thing out, but add a further warning that since it gives no reaction a pill with a mix of MDMA/PMA would be undetectable with a standard Marquis test.
ok i know what you are all going to say.. who's going to make such a pill? i agree it is unlikely but it is possible.
this is why i am against saying in anyway that you can use a marquis test to screen for PMA.
 
will the E2 test still have resulst for meth and 2CB and the other things it reacts to?
also, what is the URL for the site that has the 'superior dropper' if you dont mind me asking?
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The new tester sounds great.
I have to be a bitch though. I think a tester that distinguishes mdea would be the bee nees.
Is there any substance which gives a reaction to mdea. Not a kit but just some chemical one could drop on a pill to know if it's either mdea or not mdea.
 
"just some chemical one could drop on a pill to know if it's either mdma or not mdea."
Yeah, if only we could figure out that one...
aj
[This message has been edited by aj (edited 06 October 2000).]
 
i guess he means MDMA/EA
apparently the two chemicals are so closey related that apart from Gas Spectro testing there is no way to be sure. This i heard indirectly from Sasha Shulgin himself.
 
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