Opioids Never got any sort of withdrawal after a long run... What happened??

[BigSlick]

Posted this in TDS but didn't get much traffic.

Basically been using for 6-7 years, time off in between and lots of w/d experience but for the past 6 months have been on a pretty good run of 100-140mg oxycontin a day. Accidentally ran out a few weeks ago for 12 hours and experienced the worst withdrawals of my life, shitting my guts out, wanted to cry, restlessness that had me going insane, this started just 18 hours since previous dose... I had to take the stairs up to my unit because the thought of standing still in an elevator seemed impossible for 10 floors.

Having gotten scared I looked into sub programs and went to register, after realizing I would have to go there every day to pee in a cup and be treated like a barn animal I decided I would rather suffer within an inch of my life.

SO I took this weekend off work including Friday, stocked up on lope, zopiclone, clonidine and xanax. Grocery shopped for tons of fruit and good w/d foods. Told my gf I felt like I was coming down with the flu. I was ready to roll.

Took my last dose Thursday morning to get me through the day and set my iphone stop watch to gauge my progress for hour many hours in I was, got home, went to bed and expected to wake up in HELL.

Friday morning, I felt fine but laid in bed all day waiting for the pain. Saturday, I felt so fine I walked my dog, cleaned my apartment, got my teeth whitened, met a friend for breakfast, did some shopping, went to the GYM (Leg workout on day 2 of opiate w/d??? wtf) and ran some errands.

Now I sit here 68 hours into it, other than 1/10 restlessness, a slight fatigue and the realization that time goes by VERY slowly when you are not high, I am perfectly fine.

What in the world happened? Where were the w/d's from a few weeks ago? Where were the w/d's from about a month ago when I ran out of anything good and ended up having to survive on percs for 4 days which had me being tossed in and out of terrible withdrawals because they weren't doing it for me. Has anybody else just SKIPPED a withdrawal before?

I feel almost a little let down considering how prepped I was mentally and medicinally. It throws off my usual "dry out" routine where I would go through hell, then once I get my strength back I do all the other things I've been neglecting, then usually go spend some money to help fill the void and boredom.

What do I do now? Back to work tomorrow I guess.

I'm feeling very confused to be honest.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

What doses were you using of the meds you stocked up on? You may just be doing an excellent job of masking the wds until they're over.
Or did you not even take the meds and lucked out? If that is the case than take this as a once in a life time opportunity to stop for good because the odds of another painless wd are very slim IMO.

 

[BigSlick]

Took 1 clonidine, 6mg lope and 0.25 xanax on the first morning out of boredom aaaaand that's it. Definitely wasn't masking it considering usually 5x that of all those is usually just enough to take the edge off.

73 hours in now, woke up a couple times last night and feel kind of lethargic today but otherwise comfortable in bed and still fine with no rls.

 

[The Doc.]

Haha I remember Mr.s said this to somebody before your looking a gift horse in the mouth I would just be thankful that your withdrawals weren't too bad cause most long term addicts need to take a month off before they can even get to the stage of being in paws which then lasts for years slowly torturing you while your brain idolises your past drug use making you only remember the good things about heroin and not the bad which is why most opiate addicts relapse eventually.

 

[The Doc.]

YOu know a lot of the time your phycological mindset plays A big role in your withdrawal Symptoms and their severity. (No I'm not saying its all in your head but having your bead in a good place can definitely help) For instance your prepared your ready to kick this its your choice you don't want to be lined up like cattle everyday as you said so when the withdrawal comes its not as bad as when you just ran out of oxy for a while and you desperately want somebody to show up at your front door with a big bag of pharmaceuticals and say here you go but all that happens is you want it more and more
while you get sicker and sicker.

I remember the first time they put suboxone in the local detox to wean heroins addicts off a couple years ago I was In there and I had to wait till MY withdrawals reached a certain point on the C.O.W.S. scale same with some other guys I knew from the streets that were there we all waited for physical withdrawal to set in since we were already anxious we wanted our sub's soon as possible so we waited to be in withdrawal anxiously.
The weird thing was we were all coming up to 24 hours without and usually by then we are in bed puking sweating and shitting our bag off but we only had mild symptoms like achy legs and anxiety along with a bit of stomach discomfort but nothing unbearable. Eventually we got sick enough for them to give us sub but We wanted to know why this happened to us when usually after 8 hours we are sick as hell after all we were all decade long heroin addicts who were using since 14-15 years old and junkie life is all we knew.

I came to the conclusion that its our mind state, for an addict withdrawal is the worst possible thing that could happen they live everyday trying their best to avoid it at all costs and if it starts to come on then your praying it will go away soon and that you will get some more drugs. We think cause we were waiting for the withdrawals to kick in instead of running from them they weren't as bad as usual it makes sense to me and the nurses agreed with us also saying it happens sometimes. Just goes to show a lot of how bad withdrawals are gonna be is in a persons mindset and how they handle it. If you lay in bed all day feeling sorry for yourself thinking about how awful you feel then of course your gonna be feeling like shit. You gotta try to stay strong eat and keep your health up with vitamins and nutrients get up go for a walk or just try to keep your mind off it as best you can tell still suck its why its called withdrawals and not happy fun time but still you gotta stay strong if your gonna get through it out the other side.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ mind over matter type shit.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Haha I remember Mr.s said this to somebody before your looking a gift horse in the mouth

Haha yeah I was gonna say the same thing again.

Take what you can get, man. Maybe God is just smiling down on you, hah.. Either way, if you're not sick.. that's all that matters. Look at this as a gift from above, move on with your life, and never touch the shit again.

 

[cg9256]

It was the gym dude. Your endogenous opiods (endorphins) probably killed your withdrawal, they are very powerful opiods. People greatly underestimate the power of exercise while kicking an opiate habit.

 

[BigSlick]

Interesting thoughts above. That feeling of running out and being in an anxious scramble to score definitely makes for a worse experience. The biggest relief in all of this is the lack of RLS, I get it worse than anything and that mixed with super fatigue has got to be the worst feeling a human being can endure physically. I remember a few weeks ago running the stairs in my building and doing a bodyweight squat workout just to try to appease them. I am so grateful right now as I lay in bed comfortably sitting still typing this.

I know mindset is important but I'm left wondering if it can really impact you this much. Maybe this will be the time that sticks and I wont take this gift for granted.

Went and got some groceries, had breakfast, got some new clothes, had to make a stop at the pharmacy for some lope though because diarrhea decided to kick in, 6 of those later and I'm back at home feeling good.

Time keeps on tickin... very... slowly

 

[BigSlick]

It was the gym dude. Your endogenous opiods (endorphins) probably killed your withdrawal, they are very powerful opiods. People greatly underestimate the power of exercise while kicking an opiate habit.

I am a bodybuilder and have always had the gym, before during and after all other opiate runs. Had a couple days off now though, will be back in action tomorrow.

 

[The Doc.]

It was the gym dude. Your endogenous opiods (endorphins) probably killed your withdrawal, they are very powerful opiods. People greatly underestimate the power of exercise while kicking an opiate habit.

Yes that very well could be the case our body's natural feel good endorphins can mask that a bit, but when somebody is in full on withdrawal if they run around the block a few times they arnt gonna get that much relief because the amount of feel good endorphins that are released while running or exercising are nowhere near the amount released when opiates are introduced to the body and that's what the body is craving so bad is that spike in levels only drugs can bring.