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Neurotoxity, does it go away?

WOW!!!

Thanks for all the post guys, i have learnt heaps more then i knew, and i thought i knew a far bit :)

Well i am going to have 3 month brake and see how things go from there.

Apart from multi-vitamin's are there any other things i could take to help speed up my recovery?

Thanks
 
Depends on who you talk to. Many people find 5-HTP to be useful, or tryptophan supplements. I've found piracetam and choline to be extremely useful
 
Would insufflating Ecstasy cause more damage to the brain rather than oran consumption, and if yes by what percentage would you say?
 
My point was that I don't think your site should be used as a reference when we have pubMed.

My site was never intended as a professional academic document. In spite of all the footnotes, it's purpose is to be an information source for people who have neither the technical background nor the time to actually study the primary research (the footnotes exist for people who are interested in learning more, and so I don't go insane wondering where *I* got something from. :-) If I may say so myself, there is nothing quite like it for it's comprehensiveness yet accessibility to the lay-person. THAT was my purpose and intent: To bridge the gap between inaccessible dusty journal articles and public understanding.

and no, the findings I was referring to where not confounded by cannabis use:

Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2003 Apr;167(1):85-96. Epub 2003 Mar 11.
Mood, cognition and serotonin transporter availability in current and former ecstasy (MDMA) users.
Thomasius R, Petersen K, Buchert R, Andresen B, Zapletalova P, Wartberg L, Nebeling B, Schmoldt A.

What about the question of pre-existing demographic differences, the twice-as-high marijuana consumption of the abstinent users vs. controls, and the thorny assumption that the recruitment methods drew a representative sample?

If the question is 'can current use of MDMA negatively impact memory and/or other cognitive performance?' I will cheerfully say yes. If you're claiming persistent decreases in cognitive capacity, I don't find that a compelling piece of research to base it on.
 
Well you may have not intended your site to be a acedimic resource, but it was being refered to, by someone, in an acedmic debate (of sorts), hence my objections.

Meanwhlie, I don't think cannabis is a big source of bias, mainly because there has been much more, and better studies done on cannabis and cognition, which basically show that if you've abstained for 30 days, unless you've been using for a very long time (maybe 30ish years), it doesn't have an effect. You could say that there was only an abstinance period of 6 days, but seeing as the people were clear of cannabinoids in their urine, I think they had been abstinant from cannabis for at least around 30 days.

Well if you're gonna start complaining about sampling, then you can tear any epidemiological study up. You need to have some faith, that if there is a significant effect, then so long as you take care of the obvious comorbidities, then the truth will shine through.

I think the bigger concen is that the ex-users group is obviously fucked up, judging by table 4.

But still, my point, from the begining, isn't that there is proof one way or the other, just that there is not enough research to say "it is unlikely to occur". Even if he had said "from my readings I find it unlikely to occur".
 
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